Benchmades NEW pen !


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alwilliam
January 30, 2008, 07:56 PM
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mp510
January 30, 2008, 08:09 PM
I don't see the purpose. It's as effective as a knife (at best)- most people who buy and carry them aren't trained in their employment, and they are generally less legal to carry than a folding knife. And, the cost $75.l

JShirley
January 30, 2008, 08:22 PM
I see the purpose...I'm just waiting on a friendly forum member to do a better job, for considerably less!

didgmike
January 30, 2008, 08:23 PM
"and they are generally less legal to carry than a folding knife."

source?

CWL
January 30, 2008, 08:55 PM
Hmmm...everyone's jumping aboard the tactical pen business.

This means that pretty soon, I won't be able to carry mine onto airplanes anymore.

alwilliam
January 30, 2008, 09:25 PM
Above statement is so TRUE ! :banghead:

Javelin
January 30, 2008, 09:30 PM
This means that pretty soon, I won't be able to carry mine onto airplanes anymore.


*FAA taking notes*

haha

:)

Joe Demko
January 30, 2008, 10:01 PM
That has "confiscate me" written all over it.

Pax Jordana
January 30, 2008, 10:20 PM
That has "confiscate me" written all over it.

Seriously. Benchmade? May or may not be viable for long.

That's why me and the little bic ninja travel together all the time.

hso
January 31, 2008, 12:12 AM
MSRP $120.

You'd have thought that Lester would have come up with something that met a better price point than that.:rolleyes:

mp510
January 31, 2008, 01:50 AM
"and they are generally less legal to carry than a folding knife."
Many states, such as my own, have vaguely written carry statutes that prohibit carrying undefined martial arts weapons, which this arguable is, as well as other non-defined weapons. In my state, there is a line that says "any other dangerous or deadly weapon"- which would leave it virtually entirely up to the discretion of some folks who aren't thinking about what's in your best interest. However, we have case law protecting the carry of knives no specifically prohibited from carry by state statute- in fact, the wordig from one such case was recently incorporated into the statuatory verbiage. It would take somebody with lacking mental capacity to not see the weapon value in that implement. It would probably be one of those "You may be able to beat the rap but you can't beat the ride" (I changed it up a little) situations.

keeleon
January 31, 2008, 05:14 PM
Technically in California, any metal pen in your pocket is a felony. A dirk or dagger is defined as "any pointed metal object with or without a hilt that is readily capable of doing bodily injury ". And it is illegal to conceal a dirk or dagger on your person.

However, I don't see what's so scary looking about that one. It just looks like any other "art deco" pen. I don't think anyone would take a second look at it unless they knew what Benchmade was. And $100 is just retarded, that being said, I would still love to have one.

357wheelgunner
January 31, 2008, 07:02 PM
lol "Tactical Pen"

CT
January 31, 2008, 08:13 PM
That would be a nice addition to the fall shopping spree, heading back into school...

JTW Jr.
February 1, 2008, 12:37 AM
I will have to check them out at SHOT this weekend. Though it will have to be darn nice to trump my Lamy Swift Palladium or Rotring 600. :)

Todd A
February 1, 2008, 10:46 AM
In my state, there is a line that says "any other dangerous or deadly weapon"

Not nittpicking but it really says "or any other dangerous or deadly weapon or instrument,". This pen ,if used in a fight, would be a "Dangerous instrument" defined in our Penal code as....

Sec. 53a-3. Definitions. Except where different meanings are expressly specified, the following terms have the following meanings when used in this title:


(7) "Dangerous instrument" means any instrument, article or substance which,under the circumstances in which it is used or attempted or threatened to be used,is capable of causing death or serious physical injury, and includes a "vehicle" as that term is defined in this section and includes a dog that has been commanded to attack, except a dog owned by a law enforcement agency of the state or any political subdivision thereof or of the federal government when such dog is in the performance of its duties under the direct supervision, care and control of an assigned law enforcement officer;

So carrying it is OK. If you use it to defend yourself just make sure you are justified in defending yourself in the first place. Just like the cheap non-tacticool mini-mag lite I carry for "double uses".


Oh and martial arts weapons are defined in our penal code as well....

(21) "Martial arts weapon" means a nunchaku, kama, kasari-fundo, octagon sai, tonfa or chinese star


Of course I am NOT A LAWER but I would not be worried about being hauled away for carrying that pen. But I do expect to have a trip to the local barracks if I ever have to defend myself with anything,even if justified.

buddah
February 1, 2008, 05:11 PM
The price on that "Tactical pen" is ridiculous. You are better off buying one of those polymer kubaton/stylus pens from one of our brother THR member who sells them. As stated earlier it is only a matter of time before TSA/DHS wises up and starts issuing safety bulletins to it's airport screeners. Just like those fancy tactical flashlights w/ teeth on it's bezel. I'd rather carry a polymer stylus pen then a expensive tactical light or pen because if it gets confiscated by TSA it won't hurt my wallet as much. Also in many States anything may be classified as a weapon depending how you use it. For example, You will be charged w/ assault using a deadly weapon if you pick up that innocent chair and club someone in the head w/it.

357wheelgunner
February 1, 2008, 06:45 PM
I've never had a problem carrying my surefire "Executive Defender" (with teeth) on the airlines. The screeners always look at it, turn it on to make sure it works, then tell me I have a nice flashlight.

It could be because I don't look like a terrorist or an idiot...

MarshallDodge
February 1, 2008, 10:05 PM
I saw that the other day when I was browsing their site and thought it was pretty cool. My turn off was the price as well but if it's Benchmade you know the quality is there.

In comparison, look how much Parker or Cross get for their pens! :what:

Robert Hairless
February 2, 2008, 12:20 AM
Gad. The refills for it must cost an arm and a leg.

omcjf
February 2, 2008, 01:37 AM
"The price on that "Tactical pen" is ridiculous. You are better off buying one of those polymer kubaton/stylus pens from one of our brother THR member who sells them."

Do you mean this one? ;) :D Actually it is just a stylus. No pen with this one.

MillCreek
February 2, 2008, 02:55 AM
I am sure our brother member is taking note of the interest in a polymer kubaton/pen. I know I will be good for a few well-made and designed products at a good price point.

Dave McCracken
February 2, 2008, 11:13 AM
Back when I worked in Max Security prisons we were not allowed to carry weapons, not even the ones we confiscated from the convicts.

A 98 cent Bic rode in a lot of shirt pockets with the point exposed ready to write or for a grab and stab as needed.

One female rookie thanked me for the idea. Her Bic ended up in a psycho's arm.

The Benchmade product may be better, but that much better?

Bendutro
February 2, 2008, 01:32 PM
Quality, Performance and Price.... You can pick only 2.

I'll keep supporting US manufacturers even if it costs a bit more.
My S&W 629, Benchmade 615 mini Rukus, and pending Buell 1125R...

DragonRider
February 3, 2008, 08:45 PM
I posted this about a month ago. Since 12/14, its gone on 2 international trips, 3 domestic, 3 court scan, and I work in a school. I wouldn't carry the benchmade, to flashy......

http://www.onesourcetactical.com/ProductImages/Timberline025FXPen.jpg

available here

http://www.onesourcetactical.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=939

John

buddah
February 6, 2008, 08:36 PM
I was cruising the Surefire Booth during the SHOT Show and they are coming out w/ a Tactical pen as well, Now you know if Surefire is making it, the quality will be very high and so will the price:barf:. Start the countdown clock, TSA will be banning these "Tactical" pens very soon. I'll save my $$ and wait for some Chinese Company to make a knock off tactical pen at half the price.:D

AnimalTamer
March 3, 2009, 08:26 AM
Any correctional officers using these? Any allowed?

red_metallic
March 3, 2009, 09:30 AM
This is my pen, a $21 Retro "Tornado". It is all metal, solidly built, conveniently flat at the end, and it looks like a pen. It's never raised an eyebrow with TSA.

https://www.ecoupons.com/show_image.php?n=http://shopping.franklincovey.com%2Fshopping%2Fimages%2Fproducts%2Flrg%2F32671_lrg.jpg

BlacklabelOP
March 3, 2009, 09:38 AM
I bought this for $7.50, big bulky and awesome.

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr165/sweetbeard/DSC02250.jpg

hso
March 3, 2009, 10:24 AM
My LCP has been back and forth through airline security several times and through federal facility checkpoints repeatedly. It never raises an eyebrow.

The Benchmade screams "ninja" and is likely to get a lot more attention.

The Cold Steels can more inexpensively be replaced by a Sharpie of the same size (although with the chisel tip instead of a writing tip).

Rotring 600s have been a favorite of the "hide in plain sight" fans, along with the venerable (and dirt cheap) yellow Bic.

LEO and Corrections aren't paid enough for nifty tools like this. They may get one as a gift or they may be able to use a uniform/equipment allowance to get one, but they're just not paid enough to spend this sort of money when they're been told to carry a yellow Bic by a mentor.

JTW Jr.
March 3, 2009, 11:10 AM
Have to disagree HSO , anything Cold Steel screams ninja no matter how you slice , or attempt to slice it as the case may be.

I will still take my Rotring 600 or Lamy Swift over any of the new modular or modular-like pens.

Maelstrom
March 3, 2009, 11:26 AM
Or you can spring $7 at Walmart and get this stainless steel Zebra pen. The walls of the barrel are very thick for a pen.

http://www.montgomerypens.com/product_detail.asp?product_id=6441

Correction: This pen costs $5 at Walmart, I just checked.

bikerdoc
March 3, 2009, 01:15 PM
Sorry guys, I cant get excited about a tactical pens.
The zebra is the upper end of what I would spend. Ussually I have some plastic thing in my pocket. Bic or something I picked up at a confrence or meeting.
The way I see it if I have to go to a pen, I am way deep in the excrement, my situational awareness has failed, and I have had my cane taken away. Not a place I want to be.

Carl Levitian
March 3, 2009, 01:43 PM
"The way I see it if I have to go to a pen, I am way deep in the excrement, my situational awareness has failed, and I have had my cane taken away. Not a place I want to be."

I don't want to be there either doc, but inside of three feet, the cane gets limited. Or two-on-one may end up hugging distance. A nice Cross pen or even a Bic, in the mastoid gland or trachia gets attention fast!:D

bikerdoc
March 3, 2009, 01:57 PM
Your right Carl, at that point I'm committed and out comes the crazy
vet Doc.:evil: Anything and everything goes cause I'm going home to homemade meatloaf.:D

Ex-MA Hole
March 3, 2009, 02:25 PM
Carl...or the eyes....ears...groin....

hso
March 3, 2009, 07:05 PM
For $5 you can get the fat Sharpie Pro Chisel Tip instead of the CS "Sharkie" for $5 (and you can walk into most office supply stores and purchase the Sharpie instead of paying shipping for a "Sharkie").

http://www.sharpie.com/img/compel/GHuMu8G4K2KR-TGi1D8V4-h0ff3stTAI/sh_pro_ch_blk_on.jpg

TimboKhan
March 4, 2009, 12:09 AM
I would add that the Zebra is a pretty nice pen to use. I carry one in my bag because it looks good and is substantial. If it gets down to pen fighting, I think it will hold up OK. I have no plans to buy a "tactical pen", but if I were, I think it would be a Tuffwriter. They seem fairly well built and are cheaper than the Benchmade and the Surefire.

daveit
March 4, 2009, 12:48 AM
I thought mall ninjas were bad...now we have cubicle ninjas too...!?!?!?!

bikerdoc
March 4, 2009, 06:40 AM
cubicle ninja's? Now thats just plain funny!

red_metallic
March 4, 2009, 08:12 AM
Cubicle ninja's, for the win!

AnimalTamer
March 4, 2009, 09:41 AM
LoL I've always kind of look at it that way, but something always seemed a little wrong about sticking my sophisticated Cross into someone neck.

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