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February 2, 2008, 02:43 AM
there was a rifle fielded largly in bosnia, czech, and othere wars. but they are REALLY rare.
the soviets didnt field a SKS based sniper rifle in any numbers as far as i remember, but some of the satalites did
the link seems to have the propper mount as far as i know ( which isnt much)
February 2, 2008, 02:45 AM
I bet that would be a pretty decent urban sniper rifle. For shots under 300 yards, I think it would work great. But like you, I have never heard of it before.
February 2, 2008, 03:09 AM
Never heard of one! It would be pretty limited. Scoped one of two
that I own. It surely is not the accurate rifle that many others are
:banghead: Think I would perfer a heavier round with a more potential
February 2, 2008, 06:34 AM
looks like an issue sight probably more of a marksman rifle but in the hands of a marksman would definitely ruin your morning:(.
especially as the average balkan tended to fully automatic fire
Serbia used designated marksman type SKS based setups based on the M59, and as far as i know was still doing so at the turn of the century.
February 2, 2008, 08:34 PM
there was/is a long thread on this somewheres.
February 3, 2008, 11:20 AM
You can dress up a pig but it is still a pig.
February 3, 2008, 11:27 AM
You can dress up a pig but it is still a pig.
That's not quite fair. The SKS was never designed nor intended to be a "sniper" rifle. However, for what it was designed to do it does very well, which is an intermediate, semi-auto battle rifle for the infantry. The Combloc had very accurate Mosins then less accurate but serviceable Draganovs for long range sniping.
February 3, 2008, 03:24 PM
it was probably a designated marksman rifle, cause after 300m your odds of hitting a human are as good as taking out a tank with a .22. For urban or close to medium range rural areas, im sure it was pretty effective though.
February 3, 2008, 03:32 PM
Sure, optically sighted CKCs are around. Chuck Taylor, the firearms instructor, lost a man to a VC "sniper" with an optically sighted CKC. IIRC the range was just over 200 yards.
The CKC may be less than optimal but when you are fighting with Skyhorse guns or rusty Japanese rifles which may or may not function, a fresh off the boat CKC is wonderful weapon.
February 3, 2008, 04:05 PM
Nearly anything can have an optic bolted to it to make it more precise at its effective range.
The SKS pictured would most definitely be a pretty spectacular house to house cover, rooftop, or urban sniper weapon.
It's no 1000 meter precision piece, but I would rather someone not have that scope if they were going to shoot at me from a rooftop or belltower. And, if they did, you can bet I wouldn't stand there yucking it up because they only had an SKS.
It seems logical to me that more troops than the Bosnians would have made the SKS into a short/medium range sniper or upgraded rifle for more precise use, given its ubiquity.
The SKS may be a pig, but it's not like they had much choice. It's not like you can sit down and refuse to fight until someone gets you a Garand or M4 when you're in the midst of ethnic cleansing or civil war.
February 3, 2008, 10:10 PM
Didn't mean to strike a cord with Pilot. I too like the SKS but there are things that this handy dandy rifle was not suited for. At 300 yds I would much rather have a Mosin than any SKS.
February 4, 2008, 01:32 AM
Well I,m going to be shooting in a Semi-Auto Mil-Surplus match at a local gun club in a couple week using my YUGO SKS. It's an iron sights only match,I got about 150 rds. of ammo to reload this week just for that. I have to go down to my Dads late in the week to the back 40 and shoot a few 300 Meter test with my sight setting and my 150 Gr. loads.
will consist of
8 steel targets that must be knocked down from 200 yds (targets are 8" x 13")
Fastest time wins
There will be 24 targets so three people can participate before having to reset the targets
This stage will be shot from 200yds
60 second time limit
Each person will shoot this stage 2 times
Will consist of a three man team
Shooting 12 steel targets at 200 yds (targets are 8" x 13")
Fastest time wins
Will consist of
One steel target to be knocked down at 300 yds (target is 8" x 13")
Only two shots allowed
This is an elimination round
My YUGO may be a Pig but it make's some damn good bacon.
February 4, 2008, 02:26 AM
Here's my factory chinese sks sniper rifle. ;)(kinda) Mark
The SKS, nor the AK-47, is not designed to be a sniper rifle but that won't keep inventive people from trying to use it as one. It was not unusual in Viet Nam for us to occasionally pick-up or find an SKS with a scope mounted on it in some fashion. I even saw one, at Sniper School, where an enemy soldier had mounted half of a binocular on his SKS to make a very crude sniper system on his SKS. It sure wasn't the best but it was all that he had with which to work at that time. Using an SKS for sniping is not a common event. It seems to fall into the realm of the rare event where one-in-a-thousand people might try it. What is interesting is that both the SKS and the AK-47 fall right into the type of rifle that, in times of a major war, the Russians would try to adopt into use as a sniper rifle. Take a look at the Mosin-Nagant rifle and how it came to be a sniper rifle. The MN started off as a standard duty rifle prior to and during WW1. In WW2 the better quality MN rifles were scoped and put into use as sniper rifles. The Russians and Germans both came to the conclusion that the average sniper shot, not the maximum shot, was done at a distance of about 142 meters. Round it off and we'd say that it was done at about 150 yards or so, give or take. The bullet fired by both the SKS and the AK-47 exceeds the 142 meter distance for the average sniper shot. I tend to think that this is why scope mounts and 4, 5 and 6X scopes were adapted by the Russians to fit and work with the SKS and AK-47 type rifles. They were looking ahead, just in case of another major war, so that they could again use standard duty rifles as sniper rifles, like the old MN rifles, to meet their sniper shooting criteria. The Russians were thinking ahead for the next war about using their SKS and AK-47 rifles as emergency sniper rifles to augment their SVD Draganov rifles. I think that their idea of the designated marksman's rifle would actually be a scoped AK or scoped SKS rifle with the Draganov being their sniper rifle. This may explain why some SKS and even AK-47 type rifles are being found with scopes mounted on them.
March 14, 2008, 01:51 AM
I saw this rifle used in 'nonconventional' roles in Bosnia. The scoped SKS was very effective against grandmothers and children crossing the streets.
A true Urban Warfare machine.
March 14, 2008, 08:54 AM
precisely in the hands of a marksman going to inflict way more causalities firing on or two rounds then moving rather than losing off magazines on fully automatic :(
March 14, 2008, 02:39 PM
neat sks.wouldnt pay $1000 for one though.is not THAT neat.
March 14, 2008, 02:46 PM
I think I have a new project for my SKS. Inlet the side of the stock on the left side of reciever, weld on a AK scope mount/rail thingy, then add a mount. What would I have? A SKS, nothing more. Sort of neat though, definitely not your usual Leapers or UTG mounts, thats for sure...
March 14, 2008, 03:02 PM
Could you still reload it with stripper clips?
March 14, 2008, 03:03 PM
Bolotins book shows a picture of a sks,with side mounted scope,with a tie on cheek piece. the bayonett is still on it. it appears to have a late PU scope. no comment,just the caption"experimental semi-automatic sniper carbine sks-45".
the scope appears off set enough that stripper clips would work.
March 14, 2008, 03:38 PM
I kind of want to buy another SKS now so I can do that to it...
March 14, 2008, 06:24 PM
I would argue that the SKS is under appreciated because of the military surplus ammo... not to mention the deluge of cheesy reciever cover mounts. Check out Res45's AMAZING accuracy with handloaded 7.62x39 out of a Yugo SKS: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=304599
Res45's target pics, Yugo SKS at 50 yards: