Another .308 question- What's good/bad about the LTR
45Badger
July 31, 2003, 10:38 PM
I've pretty much decided to go with the Remington PSS in .308, but was wondering if their LTR was a good option. Looking for a very accurate bolt gun that I can use for punching paper and deer out to 300 yards.
Thoughts and opinions are (as always) welcome. Thanks!
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308win
August 1, 2003, 07:07 AM
Have you looked at the 700BDL with the 5R barrel? I have one and it is:
308
Very accurate and not fussy about the load as yet
Good value for money (paid 750 plus tax)
Can be hard to find so having a dealer who is willing to spend some phone time for you is a must.
Mark Tyson
August 1, 2003, 07:52 AM
The LTR is a fine rifle for the ranges you speak of. I can put 3 rounds through a nickel at 200 yards without a great deal of practice. A lawman friend of mine was shooting one-holers with it! Trigger is pretty heavy out of the box, and you might want to get it adjusted. I don't hunt, but with its weather-resistant synthetic skin and light weight, I'd imagine it's pretty suitible.
If you want to save some money, though, think about the Savage police rifle. It's about half cost and just about as accurate. Only think I didn't like is the stock - too flimsy, but you can get after market stocks to replace it.
Get one before they're banned as "sniper rifles".
Dave P
August 1, 2003, 09:38 AM
2 thumbs up for the LTR. It is compact, almost a carbine, but very accurate as is. Tweaking the trigger is recommended. I would say that typically it is a 1 to 1/2 MOA gun with good ammo.
762x51
August 1, 2003, 11:05 AM
The 700P and LTR should both do nicely for you. Are you going to be shooting off a bipod or a rest? If you use a rest....the 700P may be the better choice as it has a wide and flat forearm. The LTR however is lighter and more compact so it's more mobile. Your call.
MLC
August 1, 2003, 12:51 PM
I will never get rid of mine.
I punch holes in deer and paper with pinpoint accuracy.
I've gotten a sub moa group at 500 yards with two of the three shots 3/4" apart. Great rifle.
Mark Tyson
August 1, 2003, 01:42 PM
Oh, one more thing. There's some guy selling an LTR here on THR. Go to the trading post for rifles and check it out.
Lars
August 1, 2003, 08:09 PM
I had a LTR, it was a sweet rifle. My only complaints were that the trigger is heavy from the factory, no problem to fix, and when I shot off a bi-pod the rifle jumped around. I sold it to fund a semi auto project.
Lars
Ringer
August 3, 2003, 05:09 PM
Have you looked at the 700BDL with the 5R barrel?
What is the 5R barrel designation and which 700 BDL has it?
4v50 Gary
August 3, 2003, 05:50 PM
5R is the rifling developed by the Rooskies. We copied it from them. :)
308win
August 3, 2003, 07:28 PM
Remington has a contract with the DOD - I believe it is for the marksmanship program but not sure - to build rifles based on the 700 action with the 5R barrel. The 5R barrel has five lands and grooves where the standard heavy barrels have 6 I believe and the LE barrels have 4. The advantages to the 5R barrel are - I was told - accuracy, less fouling, longer barrel life. (If you go to the Sniper Country site you can find a thread on the 5R technology 5R Barrel Technology (http://www.snipercountry.com/hottips/Barrel5R.htm).
Remington periodically makes production runs of this rifle for the DOD contract and make a few for the civilian market. I got mine after about a four or five month wait. You need to find a dealer who will track down a distributor who has one or can get the dealer one. This takes some phone work on the dealer's part versus selling you something else off of the display wall.
The rifle is a 700BDL short action, 308win, black synthetic stock, 5R heavy barrel, sling swivels; no sights, bases but it is tapped. (Be vewwry vewwry cawwrful when intalling the bases and make sure to use the shorter screw for the shallow hole - it isn't all that readily apparent that one of the screws is shorter at least not to my aging eyes. The stock on mine had very short pull so I added a pachmayer decelerator which added an inch of pull and I could use another inch so I am going to get some spacers from pachmayer.
The sucker weighs a ton, I havent weighed it so I don't know the ecact weight with scope and sling but I am guessing 14-15 lbs. I know that when I lug it up and down hills in 85 degree Ohio heat in search of the dastardly terrorist groundhog I get all of the exercise I can stand.
It shoots better than I can and isn't fussy about loads (at least so far).
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