[Preacherman]

Folks, I've been offered a Winchester Super X1 shotgun. It's got a 28" barrel, modified choke (not Winchoke - the earlier, standard barrel). Metal and woodwork are in excellent condition, and while I haven't field-stripped it, the action seems to work fine. There's some wear visible on the bolt, but that's to be expected.

I know some of you (that means you, re1973! :D ) have used this shotgun extensively. Is it as good (meaning reliable and trustworthy) as the Super X2 is reputed to be? Is it a good buy from this perspective? Also, the seller is offering it to me for $350. Is this a decent price?

I need to make up my mind by tomorrow morning, so please post as much advice as you can in the time available! :D

Many thanks.

[HSMITH]

Preacherman, if it functions and does not look like the fella dragged it there behind his truck it is worth $350. Plain and simple and serviceable Super X, even one that needs a little work, is worth $350. If it is solid and reliable as is it should bring $400-$450 depending on wood and cosmetics. If it looks great and runs great $600 is not out of line for a Super X.

As always offer $315 and go from there, just bring it home with you. Personally I would NOT let a working Super X walk for $350 out the door.

The original Super X did not dominate shotgunning because of 2 things: 1) the hunters thought it was too heavy and did not know the value of milled steel and 2) it was a full hundred dollars over anything else in the same ballpark like the 1100 that worked fine. Change one of those two and it would have ruled the earth for autoloading shotguns IMO.

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OK OK I'm here.! Enough Already ! :D
Jiminey, 1 phone call, 2 pm's and 4 e-mails later, but I'm here.

HSSMITH is correct, $350 is a good deal , I would try to get for less, try is the key word, because they are worth and do sell for $450 - $500. This is the field grade usually seen with Mod or Full Choke. Yep the boys in green sold that stamped 1100 for less money and the SX1 lived about 10 years.
SX1 is to semi' s like model 12's are to pumps. Machined quality guns of atime gone by. < sad>

The Skeet, Trap, or Skeet /Trap combo guns have REALLY nice wood, and the mag tube is chromed instead of blue as the field grade. These sell for a bunch more $.

Machined, crafted, and great triggers. I personally still believe the SX1 will outrun in all condidtions many if not all the semi's being made today. I attribute this to the piston system that cycles the bolt. Brister even commented this gun ran the longest and trouble free in blowing sand and on purpose neglect " how long WILL it run".

These were made starting In 1974. The designer did not want the "O" ring but the boys in green were using one so he was told to put one in. The same designer ( his name escapes me) did the SX2 and Hunter Gold. "Why re-invent the wheel" he is claimed when asked why he wanted to incorporate the features from the SX1 into these. Corp. heads again influenced design features.

Many feel these are too heavy, I find they balance in my hands well, and have a great swing...the weight is a bit forward, which is fine by me. Lets see what else. Remember this is 1974, my '74 was overbored and the forcing cone was already lengthed and the angle reduce from the factory. Mine is .738 . Another skeet bbl is .738 or .740 forget, but I have measured because I didn't believe the patterns and consitentencey I was getting.

Mine came with the facory black recoil pad, many have the black hard thin buttplate. I sent my mod bbl to Nu-line and had external scre in chokes installed. I had just a "smidge of the FC lenthened to mate and better pattern with chokes. I shot this gun for everything, though only 2 3/4 " chambers I never felt undergunned. The bbl will take steel shot.

So do they work? :p I must have ate /slept with that gun, I have run as much as 25k rds in one year ( kinda serious year it was). For too many years I was more sane and ran 10k-15K rds. I finally had the recoil spring that's in the buttstock replaced -well-umm I was told that one needed to ...no problems ever, and I swear I still have it and have compared to a new one, seems ok to me.

Usually it us older curmudgeonly folks that competed that recall and keep these guns a secret. Some old pheasant and duck hunters too.

But hey Preacher since you are getting old...curmudgeonly and all...For Trap that mod bbl is perfect. Or have Briley do the screw in jobbies and have fun at skeet. You invite me down I 'll beat you with it at skeet or sporting clays and you buy the cokes.:neener:

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Preacherman...
Check your email...

dunno being a man of the cloth and all...but, I got to thinking... I for some reason still have an SX1 "O" ring in my wallet...just never bothered to take it out...people sometimes think that "O" ring in my wallet is something else ;)
Maybe you need to give it to me...since I didn't get a WM 870 better" to give than recieve"...tried.

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oh back to the Confessional again I go...and I ain't even Catholic

Dave, HSMITH...Help!!

[Dave McCracken]

I've no direct experience with the X-1, but I'd buy one in a heartbeat. Old shotgunners I know speak in hushed and reverent tones about how long and well these work.

Buy it....

[Bob41081]

i don't know anything about shotguns but I saw one today at a Houston gun show NIB with a asking price of $900.00

Bob