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Novus Collectus
February 7, 2008, 12:48 AM
Seriously, join Cease Fire Maryland formerly known as Marylanders Against Handgun Abuse, Inc.
It's all in the link ;)
http://www.associatedgunclubs.org/leg2008/Legislative_Report_02-05-08_Special_Edition.pdf

Moderators, please read the link before you decide on if this thread should be locked. It is a damn funny story, but more importantly it calls for gun rights activism. It has a definite plan laid out as well by showing the grassroots support by the new "membership" rolls. Cease Fire Maryland has been behind the MD "assault rifle" ban bills in this state for the past few years (except this one) among other anti gun rights bills and a serious hinderance to the pro RKBA grassroots effort here in MD.
The end of CeaseFire Maryland is basically an end to the Brady Campaign and VPC presence in this state. That is a HUGE victory even if it only lasts one legislative session.

Sending our legislators here a message that we are getting organized and we are strong in numbers is our best weapon now besides in the near future utilizing the media like VCDL did in Virginia to get shall issue passed.

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Spot77
February 7, 2008, 01:10 AM
This is the BIGGEST coup of the year, if not the biggest of the new millenium.


READ that link everybody, and read it slowly so that you understand what just happened.


Those unfamiliar with Maryland laws might not quite understand, but when the lightbulb does finally go on over your head, you'll be grinning from ear to ear. :D

MDHunter
February 7, 2008, 02:07 AM
This is a great story of a pro-gun citizen keeping on top of things and taking advantage of an opportunity! :p

Jimmie
February 7, 2008, 02:38 AM
Can anyone explain what the Handgun Roster Board is?

Novus Collectus
February 7, 2008, 02:48 AM
It is basically a "Sarturday Night Special" ban. Only handguns that the Roster board approves to be sold in MD can be sold here.
They base the decision on a number of factors like accuracy, size, quality of materials, etc.
They are not supposed to decide on one feature alone, so a cheap, poorly made pistol made of cheap materials may be accepted because it is accurate and not small. And a small handgun not very accurate may get accepted because it is well made.
No handgun made after 1984 can be sold in MD unless it is on the Roster.
Handguns may be possessed that are not on the roster though and it only applies to sales and transfers.

epc3762
February 7, 2008, 10:26 AM
Just found this board!

Awesome post Novus!

Mike OTDP
February 7, 2008, 11:28 AM
brilliant! Absolutely Brilliant!

And the Handgun Roster Board is more than a ban on cheap guns. It's also a serious block to anybody trying to buy a high-end target pistol. Quite a few of the guns that will be used in the 2008 Olympics can't be sold in Maryland.

They used to be fairly reasonable...an ordinary citizen could send in paperwork describing a firearm and they would approve it, especially if the gun was imported (and hence passed the BATF "sporting purposes" test). Now, they are wanting a sample - which an ordinary citizen cannot provide because he is not a dealer. Catch-22.

This is cute...because it offers the opportunity to get some really hard-core pro-gun people on this board. Embarass the anti-liberty outfits so much that they give up.

skidmark
February 7, 2008, 12:32 PM
Congratulations to Cease Fire Maryland v2.0 .

stay safe.

skidmark

jlday70
February 7, 2008, 01:25 PM
Now everyone needs to join the Brady Campaign and make the Nudge President..

fletcher
February 7, 2008, 01:30 PM
So (let's see if I understood this), the range group swooped in and took ownership of the [formerly] anti-gun groups when they failed to follow the required laws/policies, thus allowing pro-gun influence on the gun evaluation board?

Awesome.

mike_in_md
February 7, 2008, 01:31 PM
I love it. Will this impact their websites too?

lawson4
February 7, 2008, 01:33 PM
Welcome to The High Road, epc3762!

Enjoy, Learn.

lawson4

Franksterm1
February 7, 2008, 01:42 PM
Absolutely brilliant. If only we can do this in NJ.

scout26
February 7, 2008, 01:58 PM
The Illinois State Rifle Association tried this a few years ago. Unfortunately ICHV found a friendly judge and the ISRA got smacked pretty hard.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1009188/posts

Hope it goes better in MD then it did here.

Mike128
February 7, 2008, 02:16 PM
So ceasefire lost their coporate identity and technically no longer exists. This also means that they can no longer appoint anyone to the roster board. Am I correct on how I'm reading this?

Scout,
I still fail to see how ISRA could get in trouble for this unless they actually used trademarks and insignias. Even then depending on how the trademark was given, to the coporate entity, the ISRA would be fine.

MrPeter
February 7, 2008, 02:25 PM
This is pretty awesome. This is the kind of thing I'm sure would happen more often if John Stewart or Stephen Colbert were in office (not an endorsement, but said to show how funny I think it is.)

The author needs to check his spelling though. It's spelled xenophobic, not zenophobic. Using big words makes you look smart unless you use them incorrectly or spell them incorrectly.

Novus Collectus
February 7, 2008, 04:47 PM
Scout,
I still fail to see how ISRA could get in trouble for this unless they actually used trademarks and insignias. Even then depending on how the trademark was given, to the coporate entity, the ISRA would be fine.Mike128, yes, as I understand it there is no intent to use their trademark if they have one registered, I think the main idea is to keep them from trying to reestablish their organization under the same name, or to fund raise using that name.

Also, their websight will hopefully come down as a result too.

So ceasefire lost their coporate identity and technically no longer exists. This also means that they can no longer appoint anyone to the roster board. Am I correct on how I'm reading this?I think so too. Keeping them from using the same name may or as that entity keep their representative from legally holding a seat on the Roster board, but at the very least it has made it so they cannot take the seat right now.

scout26
February 7, 2008, 08:49 PM
Scout,
I still fail to see how ISRA could get in trouble for this unless they actually used trademarks and insignias. Even then depending on how the trademark was given, to the coporate entity, the ISRA would be fine.

It's not that they could get in trouble. They did. To the tune of $98,000. They did not use any trademarks or insignias. The court ruled that the name itself was trademarked and an insignia.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/874563/posts

Norton
February 7, 2008, 09:06 PM
The website will come down soon.

Meanwhile, v 2.0 has registered every possible permutation of the Ceasefire and MAHA domain names. :evil:

I want to join now so that I can be the appointed representative to the handgun roster board.

Start telling me what you want on the list now.

mike_in_md
February 8, 2008, 09:12 AM
Here's my suggestions on the some of the messages that these organizations should be putting out now. What's your suggestions?

Marylanders Against Handgun Abuse, Inc should focus on the proper way to clean and maintain revolvers and pistols.

Cease Fire Maryland should focus on the proper safety precautions when going down range to repair, post, or remove targets. Such as making the line safe, use of empty chamber indicators.

Nomad101bc
February 8, 2008, 09:46 AM
LOL, theres still hope for Maryland! BTW mike good idea.

epc3762
February 8, 2008, 09:55 AM
Thanks lawson4. I am reading and learning. Notice the lack of posts so far:D. I also recognize a lot of these names on here. Met quite a few personally from Maryland at a recent hearing in Annapolis.

Mike128
February 8, 2008, 10:11 AM
Scout,
I understand, but it still doesn't make sense to me. But then again I'm not a lawyer. It just seems a name is a coporation and a legal entity. When that corparation dissolves so do all rights and trademarks. Not argueing with you but it is something I feel is not right. I guess that all that needs to be said is it was an Illinois judges.

Pushrod
February 8, 2008, 11:24 AM
WooHoo! Great news! I just sent my wife and my name in to become a member of CeaseFire Maryland. I think I would like to see CFM become an educational entity to teach gun handling and safety to Maryland students.

mike_in_md
February 8, 2008, 12:57 PM
I can't wait until we gain control of handguncontrol.org. Just think...that would be a great site to teach proper handgun control techniques such as proper trigger control, stance, grip, etc with the goal to improve marksmanship skills :neener:

Helmetcase
February 8, 2008, 04:57 PM
They did not use any trademarks or insignias. The court ruled that the name itself was trademarked and an insignia.

No, but they did issue press releases and formal documents as though they were the ICHV organization itself. The simple act of registering the name isn't what got them in hot water (and even that seems pretty ticky-tack--ISRA probably needed better lawyers).

CypherNinja
February 21, 2008, 05:26 PM
Any further news on this?

I did see the "nothing happening" blurbs about the Board in the recent reports on the website, but does anyone involved have anything?

Hans Esker
December 2, 2008, 02:12 AM
Once again, any news on this?

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