SKS's getting more expensive?


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RP88
February 8, 2008, 03:25 PM
I was starting to wonder if gun shops around me were just overcharging, but now even internet sites are bumping up prices to a decent ways above 200 bucks.

The ones around me sell for 230-250, and online sights and gunbroker have askings for 230-280.

Is it just me, or is now a good time to buy them before they hop up too much in price?

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CWL
February 8, 2008, 03:28 PM
Well, since I bought mine for $99, I'd have to agree with you.

RNB65
February 8, 2008, 03:30 PM
Supply is declining and demand is still strong. The days of the $70-80 SKS are over.
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rcmodel
February 8, 2008, 03:36 PM
There are only so many surplus SKS's in the world.
When those are all gone, they are all gone.

There are still millions of them in China, but we will probably never see any more of them imported.

Unless China is somehow allowed to sell them again in the U.S., I would not be too surprised to see them in the $500+ range before long.

That is, unless the new regime in Washington out-laws them totally after the next election.

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Gingerbreadman
February 8, 2008, 05:39 PM
When I first became interested in the SKS, they were in the high $80-low $90 range. By the time I turned 18, I was seeing them for about $120. By the time I actually bought mine, I was seeing them in the $150's. I thought I got ripped off then. Now I don't feel so bad. Buy one cheap while you can.

aka108
February 8, 2008, 05:45 PM
Going up like everything else. They won't be getting any less expensive.

cornman
February 8, 2008, 05:57 PM
As the economy goes down the toilet they will become less expensive as will most things aside from food.

Vaarok
February 8, 2008, 06:09 PM
They haven't imported any recently.

And yeah, food won't go up in price much. Farmers will just get paid less and the processors keep a larger share.

RP88
February 8, 2008, 06:28 PM
I guess it'd be a smart, fun, and sound investment then for only a bit more than a 10/22. Guess I'll pick one up tomorrow for my first gun under MY name :) but yea, I remember seeing them at 180 bucks about 7 months ago. Didnt take too long for them to go up about 50 bucks...

biscuitninja
February 8, 2008, 06:48 PM
Long Live the Mosin Nagat! er.. I'd have to agree, a small little SKS aren't that cheapie anymore. But then again, not much else is.
-bix

RP88
February 8, 2008, 06:58 PM
nothing in general is. Not even minimum wage is cheap money anymore if you think about it.

I'm guessing inflation is a royal b--ch to the US dollar right now. At least most other guns are flat at the moment, but who knows how long that'll be around, let alone if they'll be LEGALLY around

Fly320s
February 8, 2008, 09:26 PM
Hmmm...

I have a Yugoslavian SKS that I don't shoot. Maybe I should sell it now the the price is high.

transformerguru
February 8, 2008, 09:37 PM
The prices, just last year, from J&G went up $30. At the begginning of the year they were $119 and now they are $149.

RP88
February 8, 2008, 10:26 PM
J&G? What is that?

and also, I wouldnt sell it. Hang onto it. It may one day be worth a good deal, unless you have something you want now that it could help on.

Frog48
February 8, 2008, 10:30 PM
I was at Cabelas yesterday, and they had a large inventory of Yugo SKS, but they were priced $239. I just started laughing, because I bought mine from them last year for $100 less.

transformerguru
February 8, 2008, 11:09 PM
J&G? What is that?

J&G Sales. They sell firearms and related stuff. They advertise in Shotgun News. I bought some Wolf .30 carbine ammo from them because it was alot cheaper than anywhere else. Check it out, www.jgsales.com.

Ratzinger_p38
February 8, 2008, 11:19 PM
Are all the foreign sources tapped out? Were the Yugos coming out of Serbia or another one of the old Yugoslav states?

You can always hope for relations normalization with Cuba or maybe even North Korea. There is untapped source of them waiting. Maybe some of the Soviet-supplied African states like Angola ? Libya, now that we're on good terms? I've never seen arms importations from African countries other than South Africa and Egypt.

HOLY DIVER
February 9, 2008, 01:09 AM
i bought my paratroper sk (china military model)for $200 4 years ago and i was glad to get it for that price!

GW
February 9, 2008, 01:39 AM
Its been a pretty steady rise $90 or so in the 90's now a Russian if you can find one is close to $500
Russian SKS' were always most expensive and Chinese were always the cheapest but now they are all expensive. You just don't see crates of SKS in gunstores anymore:(
Almost every communist country made them.
There are East German SKS that haven't been imported and supposedly North Korean SKS.
There's a collectors item I'd love to have...

XD-40 Shooter
February 9, 2008, 01:53 AM
At the most recent gun show here, the Yugo's were running around $250. I bought mine last year for $150, sure glad I did.:D Its a really fun range rifle, general purpose rifle, and built like a tank.

Ratzinger_p38
February 9, 2008, 02:23 AM
GW:

I have seen an East German SKS. Unsure how it got here.
Did socialist African countries or Cuba make clones also? All Soviet influence.

takhtakaal
February 9, 2008, 02:31 AM
Not enough folks were around for the last AWB. Things went nuts then, too, and if they spring another one on us look for prices on some things to go up 8 to 10 times their relative value pre-ban. It stands to reason that SKSs will go up in price, and just about anything else capable of sending a round out.

ndolson
February 9, 2008, 02:39 AM
Unless China is somehow allowed to sell them again in the U.S., I would not be too surprised to see them in the $500+ range before long.

Doubtful...SKS's were/are popular because they are cheap. Once they get into that neighborhood, many people would just assume have an AK-47 (which half the people that buy an SKS try to turn them into anyway). For $500, you can have a damn nice AK. Demand would go down at that price and the market would stabilize.

nathan
February 9, 2008, 03:00 AM
The purpose of the Clinton Ban many years ago was to curb cheap Chicom imports. But look at what happened. Cheap Yugos and Romy kits flood the market longer than the total number of years the Russians and Chicoms stuff were.

If theres a hunger for cheap guns, no one can stop it. It is a sad story we cant see nice Russian skss and cheap Chicom ammos no more. China is busy on building their economy and are buying all the precious raw materials if they could.

Soybomb
February 9, 2008, 12:41 PM
I wouldn't pay more than about $200 for a SKS. Its a fine rifle but I just don't love it that much. As ndolson said, at some point you'll probably want to consider the ak type rifles unless you're a collector specifically wanting a sks.

fletcher
February 9, 2008, 01:10 PM
Welcome to the milsurp market. I recall seeing $90-$100 ones at AIM not too long ago, but they're all at least $150 for a decent one nowadays.

mudslinging79
February 9, 2008, 01:47 PM
prices are going up. big 5 used to carry them for $168 on sale, for the yugo, but now they are at the gunshows at $209 low end for fair condition. alas big 5 carries them no more.

Frog48
February 9, 2008, 02:10 PM
I've never seen arms importations from African countries

They're too busy shooting at each other.

akodo
February 9, 2008, 02:11 PM
I was thinking about picking up a yugo. Unfortunately I find the 'grenade launcher' end to be ugly, what is the availabilty of other types, or the removability of the launcher and sights

mudslinging79
February 9, 2008, 02:20 PM
well i picked up a norinco chinese made at the gunshop for &250, so they are out there, as for the removal of the grenade sights and launcher, i have no idea. i dont really know if its legal to put the bayonete back on mine without getting in trouble with batf, so i dont know what one can do with the grenade launcher setup

Prince Yamato
February 9, 2008, 02:24 PM
All we'd have to do is allow Norinco to re-import their commercial SKS rifles. Oh but wait, then we're funding "commies" as some of the old folks here will quip. Can't have it both ways. Let Norinco import, let's get our cheap guns back.

azhunter12
February 9, 2008, 02:26 PM
A few years ago I paid $150 for the unissued.

RP88
February 9, 2008, 02:35 PM
yea...I'm now leaning towards the AK first instead of an SKS first. Seems like a smarter investment (only an extra hundred bucks for a WASR...200 for a Yugo). All of the SKSs around me were at least 200 used (fair) and about 235 (decent or new/unused) went I looked. Not worth it when you look at what you get out of the AK for a little ways more.

texas bulldog
February 9, 2008, 03:38 PM
SKS's getting more expensive

shocker. who could have guessed it?
you can buy one of mine at today's prices, and i'll use it on ammo for the other...

Hazzard
February 9, 2008, 09:57 PM
I'm glad I only paid $79 for mine "back in the day". But they are a lot of fun and I would consider paying $250 for one if I didn't already have one. Frankly, I enjoy it more than my AR and it also makes a decent short range deer rifle with the right ammo.

mudslinging79
February 9, 2008, 10:18 PM
i was looking at both the ak and the sks, but the ak just didnt feel right to me, also here aks are double the price

res45
February 9, 2008, 10:30 PM
1970 Unissued all matching YUGO M59/66 3 Yrs. old $150 5 shot groups with irons you can cover with a quarter.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1/rhsikes/2-1.jpg

1966 Unissued Chinese Factory /26\ had 1 month,all matching all milled parts and screwed on barrel $225 shoots just as good as my YUGO.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1/rhsikes/Ammo008-1.jpg

The Chinese is a handier and lighter weapon than the YUGO if your not up to toting a heavier rifle. The YUGO is allot beefier all over in general about 2 1/2 Lbs. heavier than most SKS rifle,it,s a mans rifle in the SKS world and the grenade launcher well it's a beautiful thing.

transformerguru
February 9, 2008, 11:32 PM
Nice rifles res!!!

eliphalet
February 10, 2008, 12:20 AM
Saw a Norinco SKS today that looked perfect on the rack for $200, bought one at a yard sale last summer for 150. Not bringing real high prices around here or at least not if you look some.

Ignition Override
February 10, 2008, 01:13 AM
Today just by chance I noticed an 'Army/Navy' pawnship in another town and went in. The store has four-IF the SKS was built in two different lengths with folded bayonets attached. Two are long and two are shorter. Or maybe I was mistaken. You guys would know.
The prices for each of the two is about $120-130.
The young guy (who used the M-16 in combat) told me that they appeared to be mechanically in good shape. I'm just learning about rifles in the last few months.
How good might the quality be for that price range in a pawnshop?

Had I been a resident, would have bought one. The young man claimed that SKS rifles are easy to find elsewhere, and that the two which I looked at had been in Korea, and that they were Russian-but who knows?

As for naive questions :o, would a typical SKS be much more accurate than an AK-47 at about 100 yards?
If you were in a weird future survival situation (at a distance)-however unlikely- and compared a typical SKS with other old bolt-action infantry rifles, i.e. Lee-Enfield, Mauser 98 etc in similar condition, which would you prefer?

sarduy
February 10, 2008, 01:46 AM
GW:

I have seen an East German SKS. Unsure how it got here.
Did socialist African countries or Cuba make clones also? All Soviet influence.

NO, Cuba didn't make a SKS clone, but they do make AK47

GRB
February 10, 2008, 01:53 AM
There are only so many surplus SKS's in the world.
When those are all gone, they are all gone. According to at least one on line seller, there are plenty of SKS rifles out there in Com-Bloc countries, they are though for various reasons not getting exported to the USA.

res45
February 10, 2008, 03:35 AM
Override pawn shops can be funny places to deal with some I have been in want more for a beat up rifle than a new one of the same type,other you can find some very good deals at. As far as SKS rifle go if you don't know much about them,take a friend along that has some knowledge of guns SKS's in particular.

if that isn't possible use your own good judgment like if you were buying anything else. If its covered in cosmoline more than likely its in great shape then, both of mine were covered inside and out. whats the bluing like overall,stock condition parts missing and fit, cycle the action does it feel sloppy,whats the condition of the bore,use a small pin light and shine in from the chamber to see,packed in grease very good,nice visible lands and grooves,or worn and pitted and rusty.

Price wish a rifle in good condition will cost you more unless like I said before you just run up on a steal or the seller just doesn't know what they have. SKS rifles in excellent condition with all matching # which is best like a Russian $300 and up,Chinese $200 to $250 depending on type,YUGO $200 to $275 for a brand new one. My brother found one in a local pawn shop for $189 never fired stock not fired never been issued Z version perfect rifle. After that you get into different grades like shooters grade usually a little beat up but function fine prices on those are usually lower $125 to $150.

SKS rifles are not very plentiful in my area you see a few in pawn shops and guns shops but mostly there in bad shape or have been bubbaed to death. Guns show come around quiet a bit sometime you get lucky but lately I haven't found any deals,the Chinese I bought from y smith who was working on another rifle of mine,he mostly deals in antique rifles and shotguns but just happen to get it in a lot of rifles he bought at a gun show,he has always treated me fair and I offered him a fair price for what I thought a new gun was worth so we were both happy with the deal.

As far as accuracy goes I have shot a few AK mostly the under $350 Romanian models so I can't really say how accurate they are overall. I know every gun is different some shoot very well and some are just junk. Ammo will play a big part in there accuracy along with your shooting skills,if your happy with just sending lead down range and 3" to 6" groups on targets then about any AK or SKS will do that with the right Russian ammo and some careful sight adjustments. I keep a small stash of Golden Tiger and Brown Bear SP ammo that I bough cheap it shoots the best in my YUGO and Chinese. Personally I just stay away from Wolf for my own reason,I primarily shoot reloads in both my rifle it really show the potential that my SKS's have,plus I can custom load my Rds. for my own needs Hunting or Plinking and I have a large variety or bullets and good powders that are allot cleaner to shoot.

My eyesight is a bit limited at the moment due to my glasses being way over due for a change so I keep most of my target shooting to 50 yds. but a 2 liter coke bottle out around 200 yds. thats no big deal to pop on a regular basis and that is with my reloads. here is a few of my targets to give you and idea of just how accurate an SKS in decent shape can shoot as long as everything come together. NOTE targets were shot at 50 Yds. 5 shot groups proped on my shooting bag with iron sights no modifications have been made to either rifle.

YUGO M59/66
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1/rhsikes/smallYUGO-1.jpg

Chinese I kinda flinched on this one
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brentn
February 10, 2008, 03:43 AM
I too also picked up a brand new norinco for 225$ and now they are officially out of them. Everyone else was out of them in canada it seemed, and now the one place that did have them, where i bought it, is out too.

Ignition Override
February 10, 2008, 04:06 AM
Res45:

My mistake.
The young guy, despite having been to Iraq as a Marine, does not know his older Soviet rifles, or maybe he mistakenly called them SKS (he did say that some American soldiers 'in the sandbox' use AK-47s and prefer them to the M-16).

:oMy books shows that the guns are Mosin Nagants. They are bolt-action, identical to those in the shop and hold five rounds. My first impression was that they were Lee-Enfields up on the gunrack. The wooden stocks have a yellowish color.

Thanks for your info based on his mistaken claim that they are SKS. ...Odd...I had always thought that an SKS is a semi-auto assault rifle etc....and it is.

These Mosin Nagants felt dry, had no rust visible to me, little grease or oil. He claimed that the firing pins work, rubbed his finger in the action and showed a little bit of oil but no rust, whatever that is worth. But then I'm new to almost any rifle.

About $130 each. Curious whether they did come from Korea (long ago?).

Hanzerik
February 10, 2008, 02:06 PM
I bought my first SKS (Norinco) way back in the good-ol-days when they were around $90, sold it before going overseas.

Second SKS (Yugo) I bought at a PA funshow a few years ago for $125 (Unissued/Unfired 1983 model), sold it last year at a funshow here in Wyoming for $300

Third SKS (Also a Yugo) I just picked up a few weeks ago at a local shop for $249. Not as pretty as my last Yugo, but still in decent shape. Not going to sell this one.

Prices on pretty much everything have gone up.

cornman
February 10, 2008, 02:23 PM
$500?? I have never seen one for that! Anyone charging more than $300 now is out of there minds.

transformerguru
February 10, 2008, 05:45 PM
I have seen the $500 range. It is an all number matching '53 dated rifle. I am sure it is still sitting on this shops rack also.

LeibstandarteAdH
February 10, 2008, 06:43 PM
two weeks ago J&G had 'shooter' SKS's for $129 now the cheapest is $150

RP88
February 10, 2008, 06:46 PM
is there any catch to ordering from J&G (ie.e gotta be a member?)

depending on that, I just may grab a decent one from them before they disappear.

rcmodel
February 10, 2008, 06:50 PM
The only "catch" is they have to have your dealers FFL on file before they will ship it too him. If you make the proper arrangements with a local FFL dealer, he can fax or mail them a copy, and you are good to go.

He will receive the firearm, and do the ATF paperwork & background check when you pick it up.

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