My next rifle is..........a BB gun?


February 10, 2008, 08:03 PM
:what: Yep,who woulda thought. The squirrels on (or IN ) the roof have finally crossed the line, so i did a little research and ordered me up a RWS Diana 34,by all accounts a very respectable "beginner" pellet rifle, at around $200 bucks.It's one of those german made,barrel-break spring powered jobs,rated at 1000 FPS, though i read it won't really quite do that. Still, it'll apparantly shoot through 500 pages of a phone book from halfway across the yard,the right pellets i'm told will go completely THROUGH a squirrel.When i told everyone i was declaring war on the squirrels and buying a "BB gun" they looked sideways at me and asked, "Uh,and how many AK-47's do you have? You're gettin' a BB gun?" Well,as you know, i can't go stomping around the neighborhood like "charlie in the treeline", so this bad boy is gonna have to do the trick. I'm actually really looking forward to it. Finding somehwere to shoot is getting harder and harder,but now i'll be able to go out back and bust a few rounds every day after work !! My brother's been laughing at me, thinking it's gonna be like a Daisy Red Rider.Boy, is he in for a surprise !

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February 10, 2008, 08:11 PM
BB guns rock, there silent, accurate up to about 50 yards with the right ammo (at least mine is, I am sure others have better or worse accuracy) and they can do a number on squirrels/chipmunks. Ps, my buds had an almost identical reaction since I am a m-16 + m-16 clone collector.

February 10, 2008, 08:24 PM
Just make sure you know your local laws on BB guns.

If I used mine as pest extermination on my property I could be arrested for discharging a firearm in city limits, even though I live in a relatively rural area.

February 10, 2008, 08:28 PM
Pellet guns are quite useful. They do not cause the collateral damage that a .22 suppressed can cause and are great varmint medicine. Just do not shoot dogs and cats with it as they will not kill them humanely (even with 1000+fps).


February 10, 2008, 08:51 PM
Nah, i likes the doggies and the kitties, but them squirrels and armidillers gots to go !!! And i'm in a semi-rural, very spread out,semi-subdivision,but well out of any city limits. No worries with the local constabulary.I should be able to "UNLEASH HELL" with nary a raised eyebrow. :evil:

Fast Frank
February 10, 2008, 09:38 PM
Personally, I would recommend that you keep the whole thing on the low down, regardless of the laws involved.

I've seen people freak out over this very thing and call in PETA.

It's not fun when that happens.

The best way to do it is without ANY of your neighbors knowing what is happening.

February 10, 2008, 09:45 PM
My father recently side lined his semi-auto Marlin .22lr from "bunny" and varmit duty in favor of a "super-dupper" pettet rifle, it's scoped and it even has a surefire mounted on it.

February 10, 2008, 10:09 PM
Your dad has a tactical BB gun?

I guess it had to happen one day.


February 10, 2008, 10:14 PM
Your dad has a tactical BB gun?

I guess it had to happen one day.

Tactical would imply there would be a vertical foregrip and a presure switch on the surefire, this is just a Varmit Killer!

February 10, 2008, 10:32 PM
gee, and i went out and got mr crossman from wally world for the squirrels, found out it takes too long to pump up if there are multiple squirrels crossong the wore...

February 10, 2008, 10:55 PM
i love bb/ pellet guns, and yes I do have a red ryder as well. I also have a nice pump rifle, that will get me about 900 fps with 5 pumps, and it is accurate, with a nice compensator up front. anything under 25 yards is a gonner.

February 11, 2008, 01:02 AM
I bought my RWS in 1980,,I had a small sporting good store down the road,i walked in seen all this dust on the gun,,And i said hey, whats that,,I knew what it was, they dnt, other then some kind of air rifle I said well.I dont like it,(I knew just what it was) he said well make me a offer,I did,and that went home with me,,And that modle is a 45,they dont make that anymore,I have killed big ground hogs with one shot,rabits dont move,squirles are no match either,One day my neighbor seen it,he asked,what is that,Itold him,,I said I can shoot right through both sides of a coffee can at 20 yards,NO WAY,,i said yes, way So i walked off 20 paces,i shot,we walk up,, his eyes lite up..OH sell me that gun ,,,i said nope,,you buy your own,,I shoot mine as offten as i can, have maybe a million pellets through it,no problems,ever,BUY A SCOPE for air rifles,,,NOT REG, gun scope,trust me,a reg scope will blow up inside,and i use the pointed RWS pellts,and i also put some good oil on the pellets,while they're in the tin,i feel it helps to keep the barrel from leading,I can shoot 1/8 moa at 25 yards,from a rest,,also keep your face away from the scope,it will open you up for sure,hell of a lot or recoil,,

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
February 11, 2008, 01:15 AM
I've had an RWS 45 for about 25 years. A good, high-quality precision air rifle will make you a better rifle shot as it makes practice a lot easier and much less expensive. Pyramid Air carries an excellent selection. You don't need to spend a lot of money on one, but you do get what you pay for. Mycars is correct; spring piston air rifles will shake apart a regular (even a premium) riflescope in just a very few shots due to the the two-way recoil of the piston impulse. I have a Bushnell air rifle scope that has worked wonderfully; invest in the rifle maker's rings and scope mount/recoil lugs, too. On some break-action rifles, the barrel droops a few degrees and you'll need the specific mount to allow for it. Aluminum rings will pull the threads out within a few shots, too. Steel is the only way to go.

I'm considering moving up to a .22 or .25 caliber air rifle one of these days, probably one with a sealed gas ram mechanism instead of a spring or fillable air reservoir.


February 11, 2008, 01:35 AM
On mounts,I tried to use that rail thats on top of the gun,that came from the fac,i thought reg 22 rings styles would work,NO way,,the rings would walk forward with every shot,U could stand on the screws,,it would still walk right off the mount,i had a gun smith install a wide base,one like you would use on a reg high power rifle,that worked,I took the gun out of the stock,when i first bought that gun and put the stock on the table saw,,i cut the forarm down a lot,it looks better then it did,i guess I sporterized it,,,,but i like that gun,its heavy fir sure,,I see they have now shot shells fir the 22 cal,i seen that on one of them out door shows,they were killing rabbits,I also seen where this guy realy killed a wild bore with his gamo air gun,thy have some new kind of pellet,And I worked with a guy who told me, he knew some guy who kills deer with one shot,In 22 cal,right n the eye,I know its not the kind of BB gun where u shot the dog in the ass fir getting you trash, thats for sure,,No toy

February 11, 2008, 02:08 AM
I had a RWS 46 that was more self-destructive than a Russian poet. It's buried in the back of my storage locker. It was not very accurate.

February 11, 2008, 09:41 AM
For varmits use those gamo gold pellets. They explode in varmits. I traded my 1000 fps pellet gun to my father inlaw for pest patrol. He shot a squirrel on his bird feeder. It went through the squirrel and the bird feeder too. The gold pellets seem to break up on impact. Personally I use my Reimgton 572 with aguila super colibri ammo. It is quieter than that pellet gun and I have 17 shots as fast as I can rack the slide.

February 11, 2008, 09:54 AM
"Youll' shoot our eye out!"

There it has been said. RWS makes a solid air rifle. I use mine all the time when I am home. You will get much free (nearly so) shooting as well. Makes for good quiet practice that can be done almost anywhere. Gamo pellets work well but so do most flat soft nose pellets.

February 11, 2008, 10:15 AM
YES local laws on BB and Pellet guns can be kinda funny. In the actual city I live in just outside of Memphis TN. My fine and possible jail time is LESS if I shoot my 1911 in my back yard than if I shoot a BB or Pellet gun.

BUT I still use the pellet gun for the annoying lil animals


February 11, 2008, 10:24 AM

I've never seen a live armadillo. They exist? I thought they were born on the side of the road dead.

February 11, 2008, 10:27 AM
I have a Daisy "Red Ryder" for cheap practice in my basement. Don't have a squirrel problem, though . . .

I have though, set up some of those various small animal targets for use in my Basement [Red Ryder] Rifle Range.

February 11, 2008, 11:34 AM
I don't know what a "Red Ryder" would do to a squirrel, but they will kill a snake "dead right there" with a head shot.

February 11, 2008, 11:57 AM
I got an older Crossman 1377 air pistol for $20 last Summer at a garage sale and have been a very happy man shooting off my deck. I like it for the same reason I liked the activity when I was I was twelve--I like informal plinking at challenging targets. I also enjoy high power rifle shooting in a formal service rifle match setting (when I get the chance to); but I'd be lying to say that I get more fun out of that activity than when I hit the target nailed to my fence post with my pellet gun.

February 12, 2008, 01:06 AM
It's not a BB gun, it's an air rifle. Putting BBs in it is not advised.

February 12, 2008, 10:33 PM
YES u can kill squirrels with a red ryder,But i couldnt ever be that fast to hit him over the head,I have one,its a BB gun ,that has just powerfull enough to break a a hole in a paper bag,,

February 12, 2008, 11:10 PM
I killed many a squirrel, rabbit, and birds in my day with a Crosman 760. Even took a few small birds with the Red Ryder, much to my momma's dismay.

February 13, 2008, 01:31 AM
I wouldn't mind getting an Izhmash air pistol for indoor practice.

Dave R
February 13, 2008, 02:27 PM
there silent,Those 1,000fps models are not THAT quiet. Your neighbors will know, if they are out and about, and if they know what that sound is. Id does sound different than a normal gunshot, though.

February 13, 2008, 02:33 PM
"Those 1,000fps models are not THAT quiet. Your neighbors will know, if they are out and about, and if they know what that sound is. Id does sound different than a normal gunshot, though."

Got that right!

There's a pretty good THONK from my Crosman 1377, too, even with just three pumps, or with just one, for that matter. Nothing near as loud as a .22LR rifle, sure, but it certainly isn't silent. It's quiet enough that I happily shoot it in the basement with no ear protection worn (just eyes). I *wish* it was silent, though, that would be handy.


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