Best SD carry knife.


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ihopewewin
February 11, 2008, 11:52 PM
Well I posted a week or two ago about carrying an auto benchmade but a few thought it wouldn't be a good idea to carry one for SD because of possible spring failure. So i'm looking for any opinions on a sd every day carry knife. Limiations has to be 4 inches or under and under 100 bucks. Anything else is pretty much fair game. Thanks for any time/effort but into researching a choice for me! Ive looked around myself including a gun show but havent found anything that I would want to throw down 100 bucks for. :D

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CWL
February 12, 2008, 12:00 AM
Are there any particluar martial arts or strict blade styles you have studied?

Kinda hard recommending a "Best" if we don't have any clues what your abilities are. Are you a stabber, a slasher? How would you carry the knife? How would you hold the knife: hammer, sabre, thumb-forward, ice pick, reverse?

Truthfully, there is no such thing as "best", only good knives that can be applied easily to complement your style.

Pax Jordana
February 12, 2008, 12:02 AM
If you're gonna shell out hella bucks for an auto benchmade, you will almost never need to worry about spring failures. I mean, you might be that 0.01 per cent, but the odds don't favor it (obviously!)

If I had to use a knife on somebody I'd carry the biggest one I could pack - remember, range is your friend. So my recommendation goes to a six-inch Ti-Lite. I own one in Zytel, though rarely have I carried it (it's lousy for utility and hard to 'hide') but it'll certainly do the job on whatever you put it against. If it really really really has to be 4 inches or less, get the 4-inch version. Check it out on the cold steel site - I'm pretty sure they still have the cool video up of how to use the quillions like a wave!

I'd spout about how using a knife for SD isn't very bright, but you gotta run what you brung.. jeez, who do I sound like.. I find that the Kershaw Blur (~$50? at walmart?) is a really nice AO that has served me well as a utility knife and, if pressed, would work sufficiently on a person as well. And it has thumb studs so in the unlikely event of a spring failure you can open it manually!

hso
February 12, 2008, 12:35 AM
There is no "best" knife for any purpose, including self defense.

As CWL said, what have you studied? If you haven't studied using a knife for SD what other forms of SD have you studied? If you haven't studied SD then what forms of sport do you regularly participate in?

ihopewewin
February 12, 2008, 01:09 AM
I have not studied any form of fighting besides high school wrestling for a little. I carry the knife for SD because that's basically the best tool I can use atm because i'm not able to get a CWP yet. I also carry the 2 ounce Fox labs OC. I currently own the kershaw blur which was a great knife, but the spring has failed and I can't ship it in without the original receipt it would also take 5-6 weeks to get back to me which would be over a month with no carry knife. Not to mention I would have to pay for the original shipping. I'm a big guy the knife is just a well **** hit the fan i'm fighting for my life and a knife is better then nothing. How many openings are the springs in the benchmade good for? The kershaw says the blur is only good for about 1k which apparently ive used up over the period of months. As far as holding the knife I havent looked up which way would be best for me but I feel comfortable holding it blade down facing away which feels good and I can still use my fist for punches and stabbing thrusting down with good force. It's also the way ive been practicing my draw. Any other questions will be gladly answered thanks for the quick responses.

hobgob
February 12, 2008, 03:33 AM
i have a CRKT M-1 lightfoot. 3.9 inch blade which is legal in my state and it has a locking mechanism so that when you open it, you can flip a lever up and it is a virtual fixed blade. partial seration, all tan finish, even the blade. Extremely sharp! modified tanto tip. got it off of uscav.com its sturdy and ergonomic as well. i never leave home without it. its not assisted open, but with a good flip of the wrist you can get it out faster than a sog. imop. i had a contest with a buddy who kept braggin about how fast he could draw his sog, i always won. so there, thats my .02

hso
February 12, 2008, 08:16 AM
I carry the knife for SD because that's basically the best tool I can use atm because i'm not able to get a CWP yet.

A short stick of some sort would be a better tool than a pocket knife for SD.

Why don't you qualify for a handgun carry permit? What state are you in?

Pax Jordana
February 12, 2008, 12:52 PM
I currently own the kershaw blur which was a great knife, but the spring has failed and I can't ship it in without the original receipt it would also take 5-6 weeks to get back to me which would be over a month with no carry knife.

Who told you that? Call Kershaw, ask them. I got mine replaced for free after I bent the tip trying to cut stripping off a jeep window - it broke after I stuck it in a vice to try and straighten it. As far as turnaround time, I dunno what to tell you.. Why not buy another blur? :D

Oh. and you do pay for shipping. meh.

Mandirigma
February 12, 2008, 01:37 PM
ihopewewin

The absolute Best SD carry knife is the one that you have on you.

Be it a SAK, a case, a Kershaw or a multi-hundred (or thousand) custom.

As already covered in a few other threads, pretty much if you or an attacker draw a knife, no matter eithers skill level its pretty much a guarante that you are going to get cut (training hopefully reduces the severity).

I recall some of my training included what was called "stumpy training". Basically, in the middle of a drill/spar somehow your opponent renders your hands useless (cutting of one or more fingers hence "stumpy", but more likely hitting a sweet spot that makes your hand/wrist/forearm inoperable and/or dangling).

Take it from me, you don't want to mix grappling with a knife, until you've trained with it a while. Cracked a rib landing on an aluminum trainer once. Wasn't pleasant.

igpoobah
February 12, 2008, 01:41 PM
I like and carry the Blur everyday as well.

ihopewewin
February 12, 2008, 03:55 PM
Pax Jordana Quote:
I currently own the kershaw blur which was a great knife, but the spring has failed and I can't ship it in without the original receipt it would also take 5-6 weeks to get back to me which would be over a month with no carry knife.

Who told you that? Call Kershaw, ask them. I got mine replaced for free after I bent the tip trying to cut stripping off a jeep window - it broke after I stuck it in a vice to try and straighten it. As far as turnaround time, I dunno what to tell you.. Why not buy another blur?

Oh. and you do pay for shipping. meh.

Their site states that you need the original receipt and that it may take 5-6 weeks to get it back.

ihopewewin
February 12, 2008, 04:02 PM
hso Quote:
I carry the knife for SD because that's basically the best tool I can use atm because i'm not able to get a CWP yet.

A short stick of some sort would be a better tool than a pocket knife for SD.

Why don't you qualify for a handgun carry permit? What state are you in?

I live in Florida. I'm currently under the age requirement of 21 which I hope to remedy soon :D. Apparently you can't defend yourself or your family no matter how much training you have. It's about the number of times the earth has circled the sun while you were on it. :scrutiny:

hso
February 12, 2008, 04:51 PM
Ok, you're blocked by the age requirement for a carry permit.

If you don't have any SD training with knives then I suggest you select a bright bladed folder with either a recurve or belly to facilitate slashing/hacking. Don't use it for anything other than SD until you learn to sharpen and carry a sharpener with you.

Pax Jordana
February 12, 2008, 04:52 PM
excerpted from kershawknives.com/warranty.php
How long does the Speed-Safe torsion bar last?
We test our torsion bar to 10,000 openings. However, at some point, the torsion bar may need to be replaced. We will gladly do this at our facility free of charge.

Now this is the high road, so if ya dont like your veggies far be it from me to tell you to clean your plate. I'm saying, if you liked the knife, and it worked OK for you, and you still want it, you can get it fixed for the price of shipping. And even if I am lying to your face, hacked the kershaw site and put that warranty page in there, the only thing it would cost to expose me is ten minutes on their toll-free number.

If you don't even wanna go that far, send me a PM and I'll mail you a check for the cost of shipping -- it'll be the cheapest knife I ever bought :p

I guess I just got a soft spot for kershaws..:o

FourNineFoxtrot
February 12, 2008, 05:16 PM
I carry a Gerber Applegate-Fairbairn "Mini-covert" folder. It's pretty small, but durable, and light. I think the blade is something like 2.75 or 3.00 inches. I trust the Gerber brand pretty well, and the knife is still tight and solid after a year's wear. Only cost me about $20 on eBay.

I've got a couple other decent, low-cost knives that I would carry if the Gerber malf'd.

First choice is a CRKT m16-10kz (or whatever crazy alphanumeric it is). It's a tanto folder, not dissimilar to the Gerber. Only real downside is the locking mechanism, which has the "Autolawks" thingy; a lever secondary to the liner-lock that has to be manipulated in concert with the liner lock to close the knife. Meaning that I have to shift grip to close the blade, but it's still doable with one hand.

I also have a Kershaw Vapor that's very solid, with slightly more heft (metal handle). I'm just not crazy about the blade shape, but it's a good knife.

I bought my friend a Beretta folder some years ago as a birthday present. It's got a slight backward curve at the tip, which he likes, and it's seen harder use than I give my knives without problems.


One thing to consider is what your area's knife laws are. In California, where I am, I can carry a non-assisted opening folder legally. More importantly, I suspect, is that it's not something that a police officer is likely to come down hard on, legal or not. Fixed-blade knives, even though I think they're legal to open carry here (but illegal to conceal), will almost certainly get unwanted attention from someone wearing a badge.

Some people believe that using a knife requires extensive training. I only partially agree. Training helps, but a knife can be used on whatever level you need to use it on. Sometimes that's as simple as "Pointy end goes into the other guy". People used knives to kill each other long before they formalized the method to do so. And I have more instinctive trust in the cold steel of a knife than in a chemical spray or stun gun.

YMMV, I'm not an expert at anything, and frequently don't know what I'm talking about, (insert additional disclaimer here).

CWL
February 12, 2008, 06:03 PM
I seem to recall that automatic knives in FL need a concealed permit...so if you are too young for a firearm, don't go messing with any illegal knives. If you get busted, that WILL affect your ability to get a permit once you've reached 21.

I think that a CRKT M16 (spearpoint) will serve you well as a dual-use EDC + SD knife. They are cheap and reliable and resharpen very easily. You also won't cry if you lose or break it. After you have carried this around for a while, you will have more insights on what you want for your next knife.

ihopewewin
February 12, 2008, 06:43 PM
From everything I have read you don't need a cwp to carry an auto in Florida.

Pax Jordana: Little confused about the comment I like the knife i'm still going to carry and use the knife. I'm not going to ship it in because of the waiting period and it still works fine with manual opening. I'm getting another knife to carry for SD purposes ONLY. I will still carry the kershaw to do every day things. I'm not bashing kershaw knives, just said that the spring on the blur has failed for me. Just realized that in my previous comment I made a typo and put 1k instead of 10k. Either way the spring has failed and no longer works.

ihopewewin
February 12, 2008, 07:03 PM
Thanks for all the help guys and I think i'm set on the Cold Steel Ti-Lite. Looks like a good knife with a sharp tip. Also it meets the max at 4 inches for florida. Ty for all the help.

hso
February 13, 2008, 01:39 PM
I seem to recall that automatic knives in FL need a concealed permit

No. That myth has been clarified several times in this forum. No permit of any sort is needed for an auto knife in FL because it is treated as a common pocket knife. Ballistic knives are prohibited under all circumstances in FL, but a switchblade is not a ballistic knife.

mgregg85
February 17, 2008, 06:40 PM
Unless you've got some serious knife fighting training/experience, your best bet for a self defense knife would be a push knife. I've got a cold steel safe maker 1 that I would feel very confident with if I couldn't carry a gun.

Very little training needed to use the push knife, if you can throw a punch you can use one expertly. Unless you are very weak, no one will be able to disarm you of the push knife.

thekid
February 17, 2008, 08:56 PM
Since you have no martial arts training, you may want to consider a knife that's intimidating and scary looking. You might have a better chance of scaring the other guy away than winning a knife fight, especially if your opponent does have some training. Just some food for thought.

Stainz
February 17, 2008, 09:11 PM
If you cannot get a CCL due to your age, I'd opt for the strongest pepper spray I could find. I might also have a knife for the absolute last ditch defensive device - or that sharpened stick. A knife is without a doubt the poorest SD device you can own, if you are not well versed in it's use. Even if you are, it is a close-in device, and will likely get you maimed if not killed. Folks who survive knife fights often lose control of their bladders and/or gut... colostomy bags aren't fun. Neither is a numb/dysfunctional appendage. There is always bleeding out, a deflated lung, and instant sepsis from a punctured gut emptying into your abdomen. Surface scars are the least of your problems.

For that 'last ditch defense', you want something big enough, stout enough, and easy to open. That stout includes a folder's locking device - a lockback is best. Obviously, it should be sharp. Don't open the mail or packages with it. I did carry a Kershaw Blur in my back pocket for that last ditch effort, a .38 or .44 AirLite in my front pocket. In my watch pocket could be found a Kershaw Scallion - to open the previously mentioned 'stuff'. Nowadays, a Buck 110 is back in my pocket - or a Spydie S30V - and always, even in Church, a .38 minimum. Make it to 21 and you should be fine... carry pepper spray.

I am sorry, but knives, to me, are tools. I prefer louder ways to 'reach out and touch' someone who is intent on halting my life functions. Of course, most of my guns are plinkers, too - tools.

Stainz

JShirley
February 17, 2008, 09:16 PM
Since you have no martial arts training, you may want to consider a knife that's intimidating and scary looking. You might have a better chance of scaring the other guy away than winning a knife fight, especially if your opponent does have some training.

I really don't want to be rude, but this is extremely dangerous advice. NEVER buy a knife you might actually want to use for "intimidation factor". If you have to use a knife defensively, your attacker should not be aware you have it. Perhaps ever.

Exmasonite
February 17, 2008, 10:39 PM
Are you dead set on a folder or can it be a fixed blade? didn't pick that up in the other posts.

If you want 100% deployment reliability, nothing beats a fixed blade.

As far as that goes, there's tons of options.

- CRKT C/K dragon
- Benchmade Griptilian Fixed Blade
- for < $150, you could grab one of the emerson folders or smaller fixed blades. can't go wrong with that.

CWL
February 18, 2008, 10:39 AM
no one will be able to disarm you of the push knife.

What if I used both my hands to trap your knifehand by the wrist, turned your thumb downwards and then dropped onto your elbow with all my weight?

Might having your elbow snapped cause you to drop the knife?

I think this kind of general knife advice to be incredibly dangerous.

ihopewewin
February 18, 2008, 07:57 PM
I do carry fox labs pepper spray which would be my 1st attempt to stop an attack but the knife is just the backup. I have actually changed my mind again and i'm kind of set on buying the spyderco civilian. It was designed for undercover cops with 0 knife training. It meets my requirements and it is designed for an untrained person to use it so it sounds perfect to me. Not to mention it gets cool points on it's looks :evil:. Quick question though everything I have read says its blade length is 4.1 inches do you think that extra .1 inch could get me in trouble with the law in florida?

dairycreek
February 18, 2008, 09:32 PM
I recently became enamored of the CRKT "Hissatsu". (see pic)
http://www.knifeworks.com/productimages/crkt/CR2903.jpg
It has a blade shape (3.875") that is highly functional and is an assisted opening knife. The assisted opening is called "Outburst" and works quite well. It also has another function entitled LAWKS which quite effectively turns the folder into a fixed blade knife. Some really like this feature while others hate it. Works for me and I like it. Just something else for you to consider. Price ? Less than $60.00 from Knifeworks:)

strambo
February 18, 2008, 10:42 PM
Are you dead set on a folder or can it be a fixed blade? didn't pick that up in the other posts.

If you want 100% deployment reliability, nothing beats a fixed blade.
+1

I carry an Emerson folder...but a good number of years ago I realized I wasn't carrying it for SD no matter what I previously thought. The odds of being able to open and deploy a folder in the middle of a deadly force encounter aren't good. If you see it coming and have time to ready it beforehand...you probably had time to leave.

A fixed blade is a lot easier to get into action in the midst of a struggle, but even then, the right choice for the guy in your face already is almost always to solve that problem H2H, then draw a weapon to engage other threats. A knife is just a tool, it isn't magic, you may sustain lethal damage while occupying yourself trying to deploy the tool. (This isn't to say you can't deploy a folder mid-fight, just that it is difficult outside of a duel and usually not the best option)

Don't take my word for it though, practice in training under pressure, see what/when and how it makes sense for you to carry, deploy and use a training knife under realistic circumstances. (A guy waving his blade in front of you ala "Hollywood" isn't realistic...search "prison murder" on youtube to see realistic)

As far as how to use it...grab it in a death grip in your fist, point up or down. Stab only, don't bother with slashing, penetration kills. Slashes are almost NEVER fatal...even to the throat. This is backed up by all kinds of data from ER's all over the country. I have a source, but it is way too graphic for THR...do some research on your own. Study some anatomy so you know where to stab and how fast to expect results (think 10s of seconds or minutes, not instant).

falnovice
February 19, 2008, 12:29 AM
I personally like the Benchmade 710, and 635 Skirmish. One or the other is on me at all times. However........
Knives are very poor self defense weapons IMO. In even SIMULATED force training it is hard to get a folder out, deployed, and into action. I am a firm believer that any response to an attack needs to be IMMEDIATE and VIOLENT, not delayed by desperately trying to get a knife out while you've lost fine motor function do to fight-or-flight kicking in. Also, othering then the pyschological effect of being cut, the actual damage can be woefully short of fight stopping. If you research actual knife fights you might be surprised how carved up people can get without any fight-stopping effect. Sure, plenty of people can go on about gunting, defanging the snake, and other disarming attacks, but in the real world if you haven't trained to do this, and trained a lot, then you most likely won't have a huge amount of success. Cutting a forearm is NOT like cutting a piece of beef sitting on a table. It is a living, moving target. And a folder is not a lightsaber, no matter what the marketing videos may show it isn't going to cut to the bone with the "lightest pressure". God help you if you try to repeat anything off any off the Cold Steel dvds......the blows might be impressive but they are very slow and obviously "chambered". A seasoned knife fighter would be on you like white on rice.
I would add my vote to getting a blunt "weapon". A Surefire light with impact device is a good choice, and easy to palm in the event you are feeling a little uneasy about your enviroment. Using a device like that to reinforce punches to soft targets, or brutal hammer-fists to anywhere can be very effective.
Also, HtH skills would probably be the most valuable to you. If you're really interested then research and follow up with whatever art you like. If this sort of thing really isn't your bag then choose something relatively simple and train. Plenty of MMA, Krav Maga, Street Combatives, and even Boxing out there. But train, and train a lot. Don't be put off by the simpler systems, Bruce Lee said something to the effect of "It is better to have practiced one kick a thousand times, then a thousand kicks only once."

strambo
February 19, 2008, 02:30 AM
To add to falnovice's point about "defanging the snake" and other filipino MA techniques: they are largely inadequate for modern SD with typical carry knives against a determined aggressor. This isn't a knock against the system, merely a mis-application of those techniques.

The filipino MA systems were developed with very large knives and those limb attacks and slashes (to any target) would be very effective with such large blades. Substitute a 3-4" folder for a 12" kris knife and all you get is horrific looking wounds with little stopping power. It is very important to know the origin of whatever you train. Why, how and with what equipment and under what circumstances the techniques were developed.

I'm not an expert by any means on FMA and not trying to knock it, just adding some perspective. Similarly, prison tactics are a development due to the limitations of homemade shanks. Some people tout that as the be all end all of knife fighting (South African "Piper" system), but when not limited to flimsy shanks, better and more efficient methods can be used.

In the end, fighting is just fighting, the tool doesn't matter. As far as your original question: any stout fixed blade or folder from a reputable company (price point/quality of CRKT or better) will do if you will.

Perk
February 19, 2008, 07:14 PM
Ihopewewin – Apologies. At the outset, reckon ‘D have to extend somewhat past your boundaries, for a favorite SD knife. Optimally, first choice (given the sudden, recent, demise of an until-then-perfectly-good-projectile-thrower), would be given my cavalry saber. Tad longer than 4” and more’n a hunnert bucks. But, hang in there.

Following that, would favor the Bowie knife, as second in line to the self-defense throne. She’s a big ol’ sharp and shiny brute; having the requisite fixed blade and hand guard. Crosses your line, too, though. Stay with me.

Sounds like your original posit, would involve greeting someone who, all of a sudden, became impolite whilst within the company of those who were, otherwise, not impolite. This’d mean my carry would’ve had to have been relatively inconspicuous, for to my having been allowed crossing of the threshold, in the first place.

So, here we are: That’d be the trusty, ol’ lock-bladed Buck knife. Feller, name of Cake, showed me how to open ‘er up, one-handed, some many years ago. We were cutting fruit, for a Hairy Buffalo party, at the time. Well, that done it. Learnt a lot about using and even throwing (speaking strictly in terms of last resort, y’understand) the thing.

And, it’s heavy enough to fill the palm in a fist fight, as well (should that be the next step, or one leading up to…).

Well, you asked. There’s my answer. :neener:

JShirley
February 19, 2008, 09:42 PM
I'm a big fan of things one could innocently have in one's hand when trouble just happened to bump into you. Like Mini Mag-sized flashlights.

And they're useful in general, too. :)

Don't get me wrong. I've been accused recently of perhaps not believing that blades can kill people as dead as they have for the last few thousand years.

Hogwash. Given a close enough assailant who I believed to be a deadly threat, I have a number of bladed implements that I believe I could stop that threat as least as quickly as with a carbine or shotgun.

Know how many of these big blades I carry with me on a daily basis? Let me give you the list:






(crickets)






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That's right. About the only time I carry a big honkin' bowie, kukri, or a hatchet, is when I'm in the woods, and already carrying a firearm. I like tools in my toolbox, but there are so many things typically more effective than small knives for SD. One notable exception, is if you get taken down suddenly
by someone who's watched too much UFC. From the ground, many of the options I mentioned previously won't work (or require an immense amount of time to learn well). Fortunately for tool users, sharp blades don't require the force some other tools do to have an effect.

John

sm
February 19, 2008, 09:58 PM
I'm a big fan of things one could innocently have in one's hand when trouble just happened to bump into you. Like Mini Mag-sized flashlights.

John,
Excellent post!

I especially agree with what I have quoted.

I am in settings where no weapons are allowed.
I might be allowed my Case Peanut, still my best tools are a broom, mop, vase, laptop, picture off the wall ...or a 20 oz bottle of water or soda.

Perk
February 21, 2008, 03:10 AM
Thankfully, don’t know of anyone, who happens to be trotting around with a cavalry saber, or bowie knife, strapped to their personage, during polite day-to-day life. However, given my best choice for a self-defense knife ‘D take either of the above and strap ‘em to a ten foot pole. This, just in case I ran into someone, who happened to be trotting around a cavalry saber or a bowie knife. Distance is the point, you see. Tongue-in-cheek illustration :rolleyes:.

Meant the part about the Buck folder, though. That part, I was serious about. They open, one-handed, as fast as any mechanical blade. Far as practicality goes, they’re about the original Swiss army knife. The things are durable, too. Have used mine as a hammer, screwdriver, hand-warmer, fish-cleaner, game-gutter, and whittler; heck, you name it. (Try that, with a flash light. :)) Have had to purchase relatively very few of ‘em, over the past several decades.

Use a knife, frequently, in my work. Fortunately, its use as a tool justifies the carry. So, for many things – up to, and including potential SD, - it’s the go-to knife of choice. Fortunately, the knife has been used only for the more mundane chores. Given my druthers, it’ll stay that way.

Pax Jordana
February 22, 2008, 02:06 PM
I might be allowed my Case Peanut

You know, a close friend of mine lurks on this forum and we have both agreed that being stabbed to death with a Case Peanut would perhaps be the most ignoble death imaginable.

What one lacks in tools, one can make up for in brains. To wit, brains can be equated with savagery, at least in a fight.

And yes, I think the extra .1 inches would get you in trouble, if whoever came to clean up your encounter thought to confiscate and measure the thing. Depends on where spyderco measures from versus the DA's office's reference point.

sm
February 22, 2008, 03:07 PM
JShirley has had training in various disciplines. He is younger, in better shape and stronger than I.

I am just a dumb over 50 Southern Boy that don't know nuttin' except what my experiences, observations having lived this long and what mentors passed onto me.

Yes, I have used a simple pocket-knife to defend and it was pretty gory.
I had no choice, and it was a non-locking CV or 1095 Carbon Steel knife.
I was able to open quickly, one handed.

I was a kid, and while times were different, and I did carry a gun, I was not carrying a gun those times, and other defensive tools - how to say- well it got to bad breath part, let us leave it at that.

No, I did not get cut, nor did I get shot, and I was able to stop an immediate threat and evade. Lady Luck showed up.

Still, I do not carry a knife as a fighting tool, never really have. Even though I was shown and did practice some things like a "newspaper knife" .
[That dates me huh?].

Times are different and Problem Two existed in my earlier years, Problem Two still exists...

I used to go into the courthouse, with a sidearm or two, and go see Judges I knew and eat lunch, conduct business, watch the pretty girls go by outside through windows.

I used to go into Airports, in the wee hours, armed and go pick up packages, and persons flying in.
I flew with a sidearm, and knives on my person. Heck the pilots carried guns!
And I am not speaking of just private planes and private pilots either!

Hi-risk stuff I am familiar with, and I was mentored to never ever ever put all my safety into guns, or knives. Just like when I competed, and some serious competitions, not sanctioned ones too.
Mental Game was 90 % of shooting and the Physical Part the 10 %.
Once one got a gun that fit, the loads patterned for task, chose whether to use shell vest or pouch, footwear...all the physical, then forget it, don't mess with it, and do not even "borrow" any of the 90% Mental game messing with the Physical Game.

Same principles applies to me staying safe. I still prefer the guns I chose to fit me, back when I was a kid, and I was born in the mid 50's and I still have not gotten to where I want to be with those.
I was born with a Case Peanut in my dresser drawer crib, and I still do not know all there is about this knife, and I never will.

If I ever think I know all there is about a Peanut, a Gov't Model of 1911, a Model 10 a Model 36, a single shot shotgun...etc., I will have announced to everyone, how big a damn fool I really am.

So I am slow to change, and slow to except some ideology.

I know about injury, maimed and dead, I have seen it happen, the results, and have been in the OR trying to save and patch up, and have been in on the organ harvests.

JShirley is a helluva lot more qualified than I am - I admit this, and not ashamed to.

We agree to disagree on some things, and you know what, when we listen to each other, we understand the "why" of the other.

This is a very useful learning tool, understanding what the other is about, even if you do not agree.


We both do not feel carrying a knife for the specific reason of using it to defend is best.

We are both in places we cannot have a knife at all.
I am in places if I can, it cannot be any bigger than a Peanut.

So for me, I am real glad I was raised in a time and mentored as was, when a lot of the new offerings were not even around, nor where some of the current ideologies on "defense" were not either.


I like simple, and I am too old and dumb to catch on - and the irony is, with laws being enacted as they are, I am able to function with restrictions, as I was raised to do as I was.

Personally I still think the little 6 1/2 oz bottles of Coca-Cola was better...*wink*

J Lambs
February 26, 2008, 12:08 PM
I carry the CRKT Mini My Tighe. I stays very sharp and has held up well.

shiky
February 27, 2008, 09:27 PM
i'm surprised nobody has recommended a HAK yet. do yourself a favor and visit www.hideawayknife.com .. they are really miraculous. I'll be getting myself one real soon. Just got a benchmade auto folder in the mail today. it is a beaut.

TimM
February 27, 2008, 09:57 PM
Cold Steel Black Sable is my favorite knife. It is very ergonomically different than most knives and may not suit your needs but I love it. It is a bit pricey though.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z126/instag8r/sable.jpg

soccergod04
February 28, 2008, 04:37 PM
For a good-sized folder, I like the Spyderco Endura. Just under 4 inches of blade with a great back lock and fantastic reputation.

If you want something smaller, the Boker Subclaw is anothe favorite of mine. A tad under 2 inches of hawkbill blade with a sturdy little frame lock.

hignhappy00
February 28, 2008, 09:22 PM
I like the Benchmade 710..

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