need info on what i believe to be an enfield


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jds327
February 12, 2008, 06:15 PM
My buddy bought a rifle i told him i was pretty sure it was an enfeild but i figured id check here jus to be certain its got the markings 18C90xx under that it has a 5 and under that it has 1942 it also has markings reading US prop #4 MKI.Any info i could pass onto him would be appreciated like its value when it was made and why its marked US prop Thanks

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oneshooter
February 12, 2008, 06:51 PM
Could be a Savage built Enfield, if so then DON'T MODIFY IT. It is worth more as is. Some pics would be a BIG help.

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

bcp
February 12, 2008, 07:25 PM
Check this article on it:

http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2006/savageno4/index.asp

Bruce

Jeff F
February 12, 2008, 10:06 PM
Its a Savage built No4 Mk1 or Mk1* made in May of 1942. The US Property was required for the lend lease program so they could be sent to the British for the war. I'm pretty sure that rifle went over and was used in WWII. I've got a couple of them. The last one I bought had been FTR'ed and the bore was like new, I paid 175.00 about two years ago. In good condition they are pretty nice rifles.

dmftoy1
February 13, 2008, 05:59 AM
I'd be curious if it's a MK1 or MK1*. I picked up a No4 MK1 Savage last year in pretty nice shape for $250. It's a 1942 and was FTR FAZ in I think 1948. I suspect it saw some pretty heavy usage. All the numbers match.

Regards,
Dave

Jeff F
February 13, 2008, 10:11 PM
The difference between the No4 Mk1 and Mk1* is only in how the bolt is removed. On the Mk1 their is a little lever on the right side just below the rear sight that you have to push down as your pulling the bolt all the way to the rear. This will release the bolt head so it can be rotated up, then the bolt can be withdraw en.
On the Mk1* their is a cut out slot on the right side on the receiver rail. As you start to pull the bolt back from its forward position you rotate the bolt head up out of the slot then pull it all the way to the rear and out. I believe they started production of the MkI* in 1942 so a 42 could be either a Mk1 or a Mk1*. A 43 through end of wartime production will be a Mk1*.
Also you can find some No4 Mk1/2 or Mk1/3 rifles. These rifles had their triggers modified to the No4 Mk2 configuration. The MK1/2 is a Mk1 and the Mk1/3 is a Mk1* that had their triggers moved and pinned to the receiver other then the trigger guards like the Mk1's. This was usually done during a FTR and after 1947. I believe only Savage and Long Branch manufactured the No4 MkI*.

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