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jwxspoon
February 13, 2008, 06:33 AM
I've coveted a Russian SVT-40 for some time. They are not rifles that are easy to find. I was 'chewing the fat' at a local gun shop and met an older guy that collects milsurps. To make a long story short, he called me a few weeks later and offered to sell me a pristine SVT-40 for $450.

I'm going to drive out to his farm, about an hour away, to look at it today. $450 seems to me to be a pretty good price for this weapon, particularly if it is in as good a condition as I am told it is.

What is the general consensus here?

jw

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Ash
February 13, 2008, 07:04 AM
Great price. Get it unless it is obviously defective in some way.

Ash

Full Clip
February 13, 2008, 09:23 AM
Just make sure you tell someone else where you're going... ;)

GBExpat
February 13, 2008, 11:20 AM
Outstanding price! ... and, yes, make sure that someone know where you are going. Actually, I would also give that someone a call just before arriving and ask them to call me in ~10 minutes so that it is apparent to your new collector friend that someone knows where I am , y'know? ;)

Vaarok
February 13, 2008, 11:35 AM
Excellent price and well worth picking up even if it cost more. They're great rifles, regardless of what the M-1 faction try to say about it.

24kshooter
February 13, 2008, 11:47 AM
Great deal - could be a 38 or a 40 - may have scope rails - - check to make sure the cleaning rod is there - ask about the gas system maintenance he has done as the rifles often are shot with corrosive ammo - lack of cleaning rod is not a deal breaker just another $75 to $100 item if you can find an orginal one.

Cacique500
February 13, 2008, 12:02 PM
That's about 1/2 the going rate for one. Also make sure it has an original magazine with it...those are harder to find than the rifles and the price of one is about $200-$250...

silverlance
February 13, 2008, 12:21 PM
hey if you dont want it ive got 550$ that's jus tsitting around collecting dust...
i paid 800 for mine.

db_tanker
February 13, 2008, 12:32 PM
I AM jealous.


But you are a lucky person and I hope it works!


Treat it well and shoot it! DON'T just stare at it like a wall-hanger!


D

GBExpat
February 13, 2008, 12:42 PM
Be sure to adjust the gas regulator so that the cases are positively extracted (within a couple of feet) but not launched into the next county.

jwxspoon
February 13, 2008, 01:30 PM
OK I just got back from seeing the weapon. I did purchase it. It is in excellent condition; extremely clean and looks as if it had been fired very little. The owner let me fire the weapon in his backyard range (must be nice!) and it duly fired and ejected a steel cased surplus bullet.

Has a 1941 date and 3 digit serial number. Has original magazine and cleaning rod. Has scope rail groove on side of receiver.

Much milder recoil than I had expected. My M44 kicks more with the same ammo.

I will get some pics up later today.

jw

Vaarok
February 13, 2008, 04:05 PM
Just remember to clean it out after shooting. Not too tricky if you're familiar with a SKS. Two tips are the clamshell breech cover flips to the LEFT, and for getting the topcover off, slide it all the way forward so the recoil spring is compressed, and put the nose of a bullet into the depression at the end of the recoil spring guide rod, it should pretty well perfectly hold the spring compressed while you simply lift the topcover off.

GBExpat
February 13, 2008, 05:05 PM
... for getting the topcover off, slide it all the way forward so the recoil spring is compressed, and put the nose of a bullet into the depression at the end of the recoil spring guide rod, it should pretty well perfectly hold the spring compressed while you simply lift the topcover off.

Like this:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/Jungesblut/Stuff/SVTCartridgeTrick.jpg

Scott7891
February 13, 2008, 07:44 PM
I got mine for $475 back in July of 2007 as my birthday present. Tula '41 not a German or Finn capture. Rearsenal but all matching (except magazine) and a mint condition laminated stock. Mint barrel, never fired until I got it and a great shooter. I will never sell it!! You lucked out though because SVT's today go for $800 plus even in worse condition.

Ash
February 13, 2008, 08:27 PM
Heh, I traded a NHM-91 that I paid $200 for for mine, meaning I paid $200 for it - and it is a Finn with excellent bore...

Ash

GBExpat
February 13, 2008, 08:53 PM
I got mine for $475 back in July of 2007 as my birthday present. Tula '41 not a German or Finn capture. Rearsenal but all matching (except magazine) and a mint condition laminated stock. ...

:confused: I have never read of or seen a laminated SVT or AVT stock.

jwxspoon
February 14, 2008, 02:35 PM
OK, here are the pics:

http://www.jwxspoon.com/svt1.JPG
http://www.jwxspoon.com/svt2.JPG
http://www.jwxspoon.com/svt3.JPG
http://www.jwxspoon.com/svt4.JPG
http://www.jwxspoon.com/svt5.JPG
http://www.jwxspoon.com/svt6.JPG

jwxspoon
February 14, 2008, 02:37 PM
and part 2:

http://www.jwxspoon.com/svt7.JPG
http://www.jwxspoon.com/svt8.JPG
http://www.jwxspoon.com/svt9.JPG
http://www.jwxspoon.com/svt10.JPG

GBExpat
February 14, 2008, 02:46 PM
That is a Kovrov so you really scored! ;)

Cacique500
February 14, 2008, 03:12 PM
Oh that is so not fair he got a Kovrov....

CONGRATS...you did much better than you thought you did!!!

jwxspoon
February 14, 2008, 03:48 PM
What does it mean that it is a kovrov. I understand that was one of the arsenals in which the SVT was produced, but is there something special beyond that?

Many thanks,

jw

GBExpat
February 14, 2008, 04:05 PM
It is rare and, so, is more valuable.

buck00
February 14, 2008, 05:08 PM
:eek: Nice score! You did very well. :)


Many gun dealers are pragmatic, meaning they have a certain profit in mind. It is possible he bought it from a guy for $300 (who may have been unaware of the value) and then figure $150 was a nice profit, so he sold it and moved on.

LeibstandarteAdH
February 14, 2008, 05:15 PM
You got a freakin' deal.

jwxspoon
February 14, 2008, 05:30 PM
Cool. Anyone want to buy a kovrov SVT? :)

Just kidding.

jw

Scott7891
February 14, 2008, 06:41 PM
I have never read of or seen a laminated SVT or AVT stock.
Previous owner must have put tung oil on it or something, my mistake now that I actually take a better look at it. Otherwise the stock is real shiny and the wood itself is perfect.

Yea the Kovrov ones are especially unique since most guns made in the Soviet Union either came out of Tula or Izhevsk. This information I found is why its worth so much:

The Kovrov arsenal also produced the SVT 40 in a supplemental role beginning in the later part of 1940 and ending in 1941, less than a year later. At that time the Kovrov arsenal concentrated on producing machine-guns and airborne cannons for the Air Force. The Kovrov arsenal is located some 260 Km east of Moscow and up until recently discovered information was not associated with Tokarev production. It should be noted that the Kovrov arsenal was initially set up in 1916 by the Danish machine gun maker Madsen to produce their weapon but the arsenal was left unfinished due to the revolution. In 1916 Vladimir G. Fedorov was sent to complete the project and organize the work force for production of his light automatic rifle the "Automat". The arsenal was completed in 1918 and at the request of Fedorov, Vasiliy Degtyarev joined Fedorov at the arsenal to work on his machine gun designs. Degtyarev invited the brightest and best armourers from Sestroyetsyk to join him. Those that did received a large stipend in reward. Sestroyetsyk arsenal at that time was nothing more than a large repair/refurbishment depot, as most of the skilled labor and machinery had been moved from the arsenal. The Tokarev SVT40 rifle produced at Kovrov is a prime collectable and rarely encountered. It was erroneously assumed the arsenal stamp that Kovrov used was that of the earlier Sestroyetsyk as the fletched arrow logo is so similar.

http://mosinnagant.net/USSR/svt401.asp

jwxspoon
February 14, 2008, 07:02 PM
Very nice. Too bad they force matched the bolt and magazine. :(

jw

GBExpat
February 15, 2008, 01:10 PM
I saw your thread at Gunboards ...

Rather than try to buy additional ex-pen-sive original mags or expensive, problematic repro mags, you'd probably be better off acquiring some military stripper clips with which to load/top-off your existing mag while it is installed in the rifle.

That is how I do it when I am taking one of my SVTs out for a walk. I have extra mags but I find it easier to carry a bando (or more) of assorted x54r ammo along with my SVT Wrench.

jwxspoon
February 15, 2008, 05:28 PM
Sounds good. It's not like this is my SHTF rifle or anything. Will this weapon take the same stripper clips as my M44? I'll have to dig em out and check.

jw

Dr. Peter Venkman
February 15, 2008, 08:32 PM
Nice piece you have there. Be sure to take good care of it or I'll declare eminent domain!

In all honesty, the stripper clips just plain suck. I have original Izvhesks that I use for my Mosin-Nagants, but even then they are a pain, even moreso with an SVT-40 (which they will work with, by the way). I find it easier to just take out the mag and load the rounds one by one then pulling the bolt back and loading them from the top. YMMV.

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