Does anyone make a "modular" suppressor?


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the naked prophet
February 13, 2008, 01:08 PM
By that I mean a suppressor which can be registered once, and reconfigured with a different set of parts to work with several different calibers, attach to different guns, etc.

So you could buy and register one suppressor for a .45, and then replace some parts and then attach it to a 9mm, or even a .22?

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LiquidTension
February 13, 2008, 03:54 PM
ATF considers having spare baffles a crime, so no. There are cans that have multiple attachment mechanisms (SWR Trident for example - tri-lug, thread, LID). .223 can be shot through .30 cal cans with effective suppression, but most pistol cans can not handle the pressure of rifle rounds. You can shoot .22 through a 9mm can but it doesn't work very well. Once you start putting small bullets through a large aperture can you're not really doing anything except adding weight and length to the end of the gun.

NeoSpud
February 13, 2008, 04:04 PM
I thought that the spare baffles thing was in reference to making replacement ones; if you bought a "package" of 1 can that came with 3 sets of baffles, does that still count? You wouldn't be replacing any parts per se, just rearranging. Or do all the baffles have to fit into the can at all times? If so, that's really lame :p

I guess I'll just have to figure out how to make adjustable diameter baffles ;)

Zak Smith
February 13, 2008, 04:18 PM
Not gonna fly.

The closest you'll find is the Gemtch Multimount
http://www.gem-tech.com/MULTIMOUNT.html

igpoobah
February 13, 2008, 04:19 PM
I guess I'll just have to figure out how to make adjustable diameter baffles

Not a bad idea. Get that one patented!

DoubleTapDrew
February 13, 2008, 04:23 PM
if you bought a "package" of 1 can that came with 3 sets of baffles, does that still count? You wouldn't be replacing any parts per se, just rearranging. Or do all the baffles have to fit into the can at all times?
They'd probably say you are in constructive posession of 3 cans with only one form 4 and give you some shiny bracelets.
I like the adjustable baffle idea if it could handle the pressures.

NeoSpud
February 13, 2008, 04:32 PM
They'd probably say you are in constructive posession of 3 cans with only one form 4 and give you some shiny bracelets.
Hmmm... so if a manufacturer wanted to, they could sell a replacement baffle set if it went on a form 4? It probably wouldn't be worth the stamp, but that gives me some ideas...

I like the adjustable baffle idea if it could handle the pressures.
To the laboratory!!! :D

Henry Bowman
February 13, 2008, 05:08 PM
I like the adjustable baffle idea if it could handle the pressures. A mechanism like a camera shutter or iris comes to mind. Would all of the baffles have to adjust, or just the exit opening?

PPGMD
February 13, 2008, 05:17 PM
CCF used to make a modular suppressor where one tube could be used for 9mm, 10mm/.40 S&W, and .45 ACP. Believe the ATF put the kibosh on that, even though it only come with one external tube.

gt40mki
February 6, 2009, 01:51 PM
I googled a bit and came across these guys:

http://www.sai.dk/sai-ch-full-kit2008.php

In Denmark, unfortunately, but the possibilities could be endless...

<img src=http://www.sai.dk/sai-images/CH-Full-Kit1.jpg>

Acera
February 6, 2009, 04:03 PM
Yes there one. Shooting Gallery on the Outdoor channel had a whole show on the Advanced Armament Silencer Shoot and one of the principles was talking about one of theirs which adapts from .30 down to .22. So you can use the same suppressor on multiple calibers and multiple rifles.

http://www.downrange.tv/shootinggallery/episode110.htm

waterhouse
February 6, 2009, 04:12 PM
one of the principles was talking about one of theirs which adapts from .30 down to .22

Any idea which model? Did it adapt to each caliber or was it just a .30 cal can that could be used on any of the smaller calibers?

expvideo
February 6, 2009, 04:54 PM
You can shoot some calibers out of other suppressors. For example, a 9mm suppressor will suppress any pistol caliber (do not fire a rifle caliber round through it) that is 9mm or smaller.

crushbup
February 6, 2009, 05:34 PM
Any idea which model? Did it adapt to each caliber or was it just a .30 cal can that could be used on any of the smaller calibers?
I believe they made a mount for the 7.62SD that goes onto 1/2x28 threads, such as those on a .223 AR. Not an adaptive can. Like people said, you can use 9mm in both .40 and .45 cans, but suppression is less than optimal.

The only way to have a can that adapts like that would be to use wipes. You just change wipes in between calibers and you have decent suppression for maybe like a mag.

JWF III
February 6, 2009, 08:48 PM
Acera beat me to it...Yes there one. Shooting Gallery on the Outdoor channel had a whole show on the Advanced Armament Silencer Shoot and one of the principles was talking about one of theirs which adapts from .30 down to .22. So you can use the same suppressor on multiple calibers and multiple rifles.

I still have the show on DVR because I was interested in the same unit. I'll rewatch, and post manufacturer and model.

Wyman

Hans Esker
February 6, 2009, 09:48 PM
Would the ATF rules on extra baffles include extra endcaps? Wouldn't an endcap (for the exit end of the suppressor) just large enough to pass the round be more effective than one that is too large?

For example: a .22 endcap that would fit on the end of a .30 can. Or, a 9mm can with a .32 sized endcap.

DoubleTapDrew
February 7, 2009, 12:44 AM
The only way to have a can that adapts like that would be to use wipes. You just change wipes in between calibers and you have decent suppression for maybe like a mag.
I think the problem is the ATF can pick on wipes, even laying around your house, just as bad as baffles which is pretty ridiculous for a hunk of rubber.
You can use larger suppressors on smaller calibers. I asked YHM about using their 7.62 can on a 5.56 and they said it's just a db or two louder than with the 5.56 can (although its 2" longer).
I'm sure they'd have a problem with different sized end caps as well. It's almost as if they don't like us...:o
Keep in mind there are serious pressure differences between pistols and rifles so you aren't going to have a one size fits all can even if you could adjust the bore because it would be laughably big. You might be able to make a pistol can that can do .22lr-.45acp and a rifle can that can do .223-.308 or possibly .338 but bigger than that and the can has to get bigger.
My brain is still churning about the camera iris idea...

Javelin
February 7, 2009, 12:53 AM
The AAC 762SD does extremely well on a 5.56 ... so well it actually has better sound suppression than most 5.56 suppressors on the market today as it is only 2db less than the AAC M4-2K which is the top rated 5.56 suppressor of 2008.

Many folks have and ar buying them up to do dual duty on their 7.62/30-06/300win mag AND their 5.56/5.7mm rifles. As long as you don't mind putting up with the extra 1.5" on your gun I'd say get it and use it on your M4 and all your 30 cal rifles.

:)

JWF III
February 7, 2009, 06:41 AM
I still have the show on DVR because I was interested in the same unit. I'll rewatch, and post manufacturer and model.

Alright, I re-watched it just now. The company is Innovative Arms. They call the product "Solution". They say it can suppress anything from .30" down to .17". But, it looks very similar to the Gemtech Multimount, just from a different company. With the IA Solution, it is possible to change out the threaded endcap to change caliber.

What I don't know, is beside the threads, is the bore through the end cap caliber specific? And does this make it work better than just shooting a .22" through a .30" suppressor?

I'm curious as to how well it'll work on a .22lr or a .223. I mainly want one for a 30 cal, but it'd be nice if it worked as well on a .223. Here's the link to Innovative Arms site...

www.innovativearms.com/id13.html

Wyman

Ranb
February 7, 2009, 08:07 AM
The bore of this silencer is not changed when moving from one caliber to another. It comes with several different muzzle adaptors to fit it onto various threads sizes.

It is just a 30 cal can, nothing more. Using a silencer intended for a larger caliber is nothing new.

Ranb

crushbup
February 7, 2009, 09:08 AM
IIRC, the ATF allows interchangeable endcaps only if the endcaps do not hold in the baffles. That is to say, on a SWR Trident 9, they can have the different mounting options in the form of endcaps because those endcaps do not hold the baffles in.

I think the problem is the ATF can pick on wipes, even laying around your house, just as bad as baffles which is pretty ridiculous for a hunk of rubber.
Nope, the ATF considers wipes to be consumables, of which you can have extras of and replace yourself.

Ranb
February 7, 2009, 09:56 AM
I have an ATF letter that says in part that wipes can be replaced, but only after cutting up or burning the old ones. In other words, no extra wipes laying around to replace the ones that are shot out. This is why I think I will never make a wipe silencer.

Ranb

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