1860 snubnose thunderer


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flibuste
February 15, 2008, 07:39 AM
Pietta has issued recently this gun :

http://http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=31&u=11021458 (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=31&u=11021458)
http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=31&u=11021458

This is shooting at 25m two handhold.

And after polishing and diminushing the weight of barrel :

http://http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=38&u=11021458 (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=38&u=11021458)

http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=38&u=11021458

Very pleasant to shoot and the grip is very comfortable.
I guess it will reach USA soon.....

Regards

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MCgunner
February 15, 2008, 09:49 AM
But Where Can I Get One In The States????:banghead:

Very sweet. :D

Tommygunn
February 15, 2008, 11:31 AM
NICE!
We used to be able to get a similar model from Cabela's. The grip was just the plain 1860 grip and had the regular 1860 backstrap & trigger guard. But the frame & barrel were the same. I did pick one up in my collection -- a good thing sense Cabela's no longer carries it.
Nice bird's head grip there, Flibuste.

StrawHat
February 15, 2008, 11:52 AM
As I posted in other threads, I made one with the regular grip frame.

Hack saw and file is all it takes and the full size revolver often goes on sale for much less than the short barreled variant.

If you must have the birdshead grip and can live with the smaller gripsize of the Model "P" or 1851, I believe they are available as replacement parts.

I have seen originals that were reworked to round butt, have never seen any original with the birdshead.

That doesn't mean they don't exist.

It also doesn't mean they don't look interesting. I may have to rework my snubby.

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc194/StrawHat/1860SheriffSmall.jpg

Pancho
February 15, 2008, 12:17 PM
I have emailed Pietta with the question of whether or not they intend marketing that revolver in the U.S. We will see if they have a translator and if they will respond to my email.

dwave
February 15, 2008, 04:28 PM
Hey Pancho, good luck with that one. I emailed Pietta some time ago (around a year) with a question and never got an answer back.

bigbadgun
February 15, 2008, 04:47 PM
Dwave let us know what you find out I really want the polished one with the birdshead grip thing is really nice.:cool:

dwave
February 15, 2008, 05:05 PM
It does look nice. I wouldn't mind having one, but I spent my gun money on a new monitor for my computer. Good thing is it did go BANG when I got it home!

Pancho, I sent an email also, maybe between the two of us, one will get an answer.

Pancho
February 15, 2008, 05:08 PM
I got an email answer from Uberti once and it was in italian. I let Pietta know that I could neither write,read or speak italian so I hoped they had an interpreter.

bigbadgun
February 15, 2008, 05:26 PM
using google you can type in english and then translate it to Italian.
Just like this.

Utilizzando google possibile digitare in inglese e poi tradurre in italiano.

mykeal
February 15, 2008, 05:40 PM
Pietta has a policy of not corresponding directly with end users. You will have better luck asking a distributor to ask them for you, but I wouldn't hold out much hope for an answer.

dwave
February 15, 2008, 05:54 PM
Pietta has a policy of not corresponding directly with end users.

Well they suck then. Pedersoli got back with me when I sent them a question, don't know why Pietta can't.

Yankee John
February 15, 2008, 06:18 PM
There are a few cowboy action shooting (CAS) websites that Allessandro Pietta (sp?) visits regularly and answers questions. He is the president of the company.

I think cascity.com is one of them.

John

LEE3370
February 16, 2008, 09:38 AM
I have had very good service and communications from Pietta. In the past four years I have e-mailed them three times.
One was on finding grips for the 1858 that would fit out of the box. I was told that the grips were installed on the revolver then finished. They didn't think I would be able to find a set that would fit without fitting.
The second I was looking for a supplier where I could get three longer hammer screws used to mount the stocks on 1851's. They shipped me three screws for free.
The third was when I questioned the quality between companies selling the same revolver. There were several e-mails to do with this question. This e-mail I still had in my folder. Here was their answer:

Thank you sir,
the quality is more less always the same for all the importers.
Of course is based on which model we discuss . We have several different versions of the same gun but the quality , in the last few years, is stady.

the best regards,

F.lli Pietta
customer service dept.
www.pietta.it

Like I said, I find Pietta very fast to respond.
Good Luck
Lee

Old Fuff
February 16, 2008, 10:20 AM
On original Colt's, the backstrap and trigger guards made for the following are interchangeable

1851 Navy
1861 Navy
1860 Army
1872 Cartridge Conversions
1873 Single Action Army

The same is generally true within a particular manufacturer's replicas (Uberti parts fit Uberti revolvers, and the same with Pietta).

For some time both have been making round-butt versions of their Single Action Army revolver. What Pietta has done is mount a backstrap/trigger guard/stocks from one of their 1873 models on an 1860 Army frame and cut off the barrel to make a snubby.

There is no reason you can't do the same. I believe the trigger guards are the same on the round-butt and standard SAA models. If so all you need is the round-butt "Thunderer" backstrap and stocks. :cool:

Tommygunn
February 16, 2008, 12:53 PM
On original Colt's, the backstrap and trigger guards made for the following are interchangeable

1851 Navy
1861 Navy
1860 Army
1872 Cartridge Conversions
1873 Single Action Army

Didn't the 1860 Army have longer grips than the others? How could the backstraps and trigger guards be interchangable ... unless you mean the GRIPS, too.
I have Pietta Dance Brothers revolver, and as an experiment I took the BS & TG off and tried to put it on a Pietta 1851. Technically it fir the screws, but the TG was too wide for the frame of the revolver. If I'd intended to keep it that way, some judicious fitting may have solved the problem ... but as I was only fooling around I replaced the parts on the original gun.

Old Fuff
February 16, 2008, 01:24 PM
I have Pietta Dance Brothers revolver, ....

I didn't put a Dance Brothers revolver on my list .... :evil: :D

You are right, the 1860 handle is longer then the others, and yes, if you switched them onto something else you would need to get the stocks. Also, as I pointed out, if you converted to a "Thunderer" style conversion you'd need to get stocks.

On the models I listed, the hole locations on the frame are identical - within a given make. Also, like the original guns the straps are hand fitted to a particular frame, and may not interchange between guns with a perfect fit. But if you buy new parts, not previously fitted to a gun, you should be able to get something that could be made to work. :)

Pancho
February 16, 2008, 04:28 PM
I can't believe it Pietta emailed me and said the "1860 snub nose has been introduced in America. Try Cabela's".

mike101
February 16, 2008, 05:13 PM
Nothing on Cabela's website. But here's something intersting. :eek:

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/horizontal-pod.jsp?id=0009945&navCount=1&parentId=cat20817&masterpathid=&navAction=push&cmCat=MainCatcat20712-cat20817&parentType=index&indexId=cat20817&rid=

They have spare stainless cylinders for 54 bucks, too.

Old Fuff
February 16, 2008, 05:38 PM
Nothing on Cabela's website. But here's something intersting.

Want 'ta see my quick draw??? :D

bigbadgun
February 16, 2008, 06:09 PM
Ok if anybody runs into a place that sells these damn things please start a new thread and I well do the same.:fire::banghead::cuss:

Yankee John
February 16, 2008, 06:36 PM
Try the Classifieds here ;)

I have my Pietta 1860 snubnose (with a holster) for sale there. It's in virtually perfect factory condition.

John :)

Pancho
February 16, 2008, 07:54 PM
Yankee John, You'll probably sell it. Cid you make it or did you buy it and where? You've only got one gun and a lot of guys are interesed.
I called Cabela's and talked to one of their product specialists and they knew nothing about it. I emailed Pietta and told them the Cabela's lead turned cold and we would appreciate more leads.

Yankee John
February 16, 2008, 09:09 PM
Pancho- It is a Pietta factory-made gun. I bought it from Cabela's in 2005 when it was on clearance there. These have been discontinued by Pietta a little over 2 years.

It's one of my favorites and a hard one to sell. I'm seriously thinking about pulling the ad and keeping it.

Hope this helps,
John

Yankee John
February 16, 2008, 09:10 PM
double post

Old Fuff
February 16, 2008, 09:56 PM
Sort of off topic, but just for grins, go look... :evil: :cool:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=92616895

Pancho
February 16, 2008, 10:38 PM
I'd hold on If I were you if you want to sell it. Check out this thread and you'll see that there is a lot of interest in that gun. Most of us didn't know that it was available until now and since yours is an 05 it ain't nothin new just new to us. Pietta still makes it according to the email I got from them but their market timing must have been off.

LEE3370
February 17, 2008, 11:41 AM
If you have a Pietta 1860 and want a belly gun, check with VTI. I think they might have the 1860 snubby barrel for around $75.00. It is not listed in the parts break down so you will need to e-mail them about it. They carry the snubby barrel for the 1861 so they may just have the barrel for the 1860.
Take off your long barrel, put on the short barrel, presto, belly gun.

Pancho
February 19, 2008, 09:41 AM
Just got an email from Pietta stating at this time no US importers are buying the snub nose 1860. I guess our only recourse is to contact our favorite dealers and request the gun.
MyKeal you will have to re-evaluate your opinion about Pietta not answering emails.

mykeal
February 19, 2008, 11:57 AM
Pancho, you are correct and I have done so.

Pancho
February 19, 2008, 12:16 PM
I'm running down my list of vendors and emailing them about the new gun I'd suggest we all do the same.

bigbadgun
February 19, 2008, 12:46 PM
Just got off the phone with Taylor and Co.
They said that 2 years ago they had 45 of them limited edition.
But they probly would not get anymore.

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