Legalities and .410 barrel shortening
saboteur
February 16, 2008, 12:14 PM
I would like to get a .410 coach shotgun (sxs) and cut of the stock to make a pistol grip and cut down the barrel to resemble a howdah pistol.
Are .410 shotguns rifled? And if so, would I still have to pay a $200 tax stamp to do this? I know there are 45 Colt/.410 revovlers and derringers, so I'm wondering if there is any legal difference between those that come that way and making your own.
Thanks.
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Gingerbreadman
February 16, 2008, 12:29 PM
The .45LC guns have rifled barrels and .410 shotguns are smoothbore. Chances are good that your project will cost you an extra $200.
rcmodel
February 16, 2008, 01:00 PM
Legal .410 revolvers and derringers must have rifled barrels.
Any legal smoothbore shotgun must have at least a 18" long barrel.
It must be at least 26" over-all length.
Your proposed cut-down .410 would need a tax stamp.
No doubt about it!
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DPris
February 16, 2008, 01:07 PM
There's a lot of difference, all revolving around the issue of what the gun started out to be.
.410 shotguns are not rifled.
The various .410 revolvers & derringers ALL started out as handguns, your project will be starting out as a long gun.
A handgun in a shotshell caliber requires no special licensing from the Feds, UNLESS it's a smoothbore, in which case it falls under the NFA 1934 restrictions & does have to have the appropriate tax stamp. Commercial versions were never long guns and are rifled to avoid this.
Cutting back any smoothbore shotgun that uses fixed ammunition to a barrel length shorter than 18 inches, or cutting both ends back to an overall length of less than 26 inches, without paying the $200 federal tax FIRST, is a federal felony & can subject you to a large fine & many new friends in an extended stay at a luxury resort owned & operated by your friendly federal government.
DO NOT DO IT WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE STEPS TO DO IT LEGALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Denis
Fred Fuller
February 16, 2008, 01:08 PM
Mistakes of law regarding the project you mention may cost you a $10,000 fine and 10 years in the clink. Be careful in that regard to observe ALL applicable local, state and federal laws.
Look into buying an AOW ('any other weapon,' that is, a factory built short shotgun) if you really want to do this... if your state/locality allows, that is.
lpl/nc
kingjoey
February 16, 2008, 01:10 PM
What you are talking about building would require a $200 SBS stamp since it is a longarm being converted to a short-barrel. If it was a virgin receiver that a buttstock had never been installed on, then you'd still have to pay the tax to build an AOW since its a smoothbore
SamWhite50
February 16, 2008, 02:01 PM
+1 on what rcmodel said.
classic095
February 16, 2008, 03:10 PM
Dont ruin a perfectly good 410 send it to me..
Real men use a 410 for all their shotgun needs..:D
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