What gun did Bud Dwyer use?
Jamesmb
February 18, 2008, 04:41 PM
I was looking through youtube the other day, and showed a public suicide of a years ago PA Treasurer of the time Bud Dwyer. Just curious what revolver that was. Had heard somewhere he used a FMJ round. The Jack Ruby thread got me thinking of this and also other famous or infamous assassinations and what guns where used in such
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evan price
February 18, 2008, 05:17 PM
Back when I was doing metal fabrication there was this guy who always had a handfull of 3/4" washers in his pocket. He liked to hand them out as "Budd Dwyer Commemorative Coins".
Mr. Dwyer shot himself 1-22-87. The beauty of his solution is because he was deceased before sentence was handed down, he was still in office, he was therefore never convicted of taking kickbacks technically, and his wife and family were eligible to keep his pension and benefits.
I think it was a .357 S&W iirc.
"Stay Away, this thing will hurt someone."
kingpin008
February 18, 2008, 07:03 PM
"Budd Dwyer Commemorative Coins"
Man, that's just wrong.
But yes, I seem to remember (from reading about it and seeing the video) that it was a .357 S&W.
Jamesmb
February 18, 2008, 07:19 PM
Looked to be a rather long barrel in the clip. Maybe 6" or 8"?
TimboKhan
February 18, 2008, 07:23 PM
The beauty of his solution is because he was deceased before sentence was handed down, he was still in office, he was therefore never convicted of taking kickbacks technically, and his wife and family were eligible to keep his pension and benefits.
I get what your saying, but perhaps "beauty of his solution" isn't the best turn of phrase there. Not to sound prudish, but I am certain his wife and family would have preferred he not killed himself.
Wire
February 18, 2008, 08:18 PM
It was a large .357, and I'm almost positive it was a Smith. I had a paper route in subarban Harrisburg at the time and delivered that evening's edition. The article mentioned him taking a revolver from an envelope, speculation that it was to be presented to someone, then the realization that he was going to shoot himself.
Brian Williams
February 18, 2008, 09:10 PM
I remember seeing it in the news that night.
Jason_G
February 18, 2008, 11:39 PM
I was a kid when this happened, so I don't really remember it. Then again, I remember the Challenger, so maybe this was something that my folks made sure I didn't see. I had to Google Budd Dwyer to even find out who he was. Stumbled upon a video of the actual footage (it was a S&W .357); I have to say, I was surprised that the whole event was on film and circulating around on the internet so freely. I'd have thought that the news crews would've cut off the cameras once they realized what was about to happen. So did that footage air in its entirety (gore and all) on live television, or was it taped and edited before broadcast?
Jason
Pilot
February 19, 2008, 05:42 AM
So did that footage air in its entirety (gore and all) on live television, or was it taped and edited before broadcast?
Yes it did, and the news channels kept running it over and over again all night. I was working in the building next to the Finance building in which the Treasurer was located. I saw the ambulances pull up and called a close friend who was Deputy Treasurer under Dwyer. When she answered the phone she was crying and said "yes its true, the Tresurer shot himself". I had no ideas what had happened, I just called because I saw ambulances pull up. My first wife also worked there and was a friend of Bud's too. I met him on several occassions. It was a .357 Smith with at least a six inch barrel. Very sad.
XDKingslayer
February 19, 2008, 12:21 PM
We used to have a joke back home.
How do you know there's a gun in the washer?
Because there's a bullet in the Dwyer.
birdhunter317
February 19, 2008, 05:14 PM
i didn`t realize we had so many former pensylvanians on this board.
Flopsy
February 20, 2008, 04:59 PM
"i didn`t realize we had so many former pensylvanians on this board."
Current Pennsylvanian here, and in fact I also live in Lewisberry. Weird coincidence.
32 Magnum
February 20, 2008, 05:49 PM
Another Pennsylvanian here - Lehigh Valley. I remember the Dwyer incident - rather shocking to see it on the 11pm News.
Pilot
February 20, 2008, 06:33 PM
We used to have a joke back home.
How do you know there's a gun in the washer?
Because there's a bullet in the Dwyer.
That is extremely tasteless sir.
evan price
February 21, 2008, 01:42 AM
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=62321&d=1186990230
"Stay away, this thing will hurt someone!"
Jamesmb
February 21, 2008, 02:30 AM
I was looking at some websites on various assassinations and found
sirhan sirhan used a 22 caliber revolver but seems to be alot of conflict if that was the only gun used.
Jack Ruby used a Cobra 38 Special on Oswald.
Booth used a .44 caliber Derringer on Lincoln.
Guiteau used a .44 Webley British Bulldog revolver on Garfield.
Czolgosz used a .32 caliber Iver-Johnson pistol on McKinley.
Fromme pointed a .45 caliber handgun at Ford.
Hinkley used a 22 caliber Rohm R6-14 revolver at Reagan.
Chapman used a Charter Arms .38 caliber revolver on Lennon.
Brian Williams
February 21, 2008, 09:41 AM
:evil:What evil lurks in the hearts of Mankind, Lets leave it there, OP ???s answered, and more info than needed,
Now gone OT.
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