[M2 Carbine]

I haven't shot my BM .223 pistol in some months and since it was a nice day yesterday I thought I'd have some fun with it.

On another site a poster questioned the usefulness of the rifle caliber pistols like the Kel Tec PLR and Bushmaster because in his opinion they are too awkward and slow to get into action.
Well, checking that out is as good as any excuse to burn up some .223 reloads.:)

After a few trial runs starting with the gun pointed down and using my timer I thought I should somehow "get the gun into action", not start out holding it.
So I decided to lay the gun on something. A plastic trash can was just the thing.
And I decided on 7 and 10 yards distance and time 5 and 10 shot strings.

The Bushmaster and it's targets.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/BMCorbon15onbackstop.jpg

I started out at 10 yards. This is typical of the groups and times.
I found that sometimes I couldn't get cooking and the time and hits showed it but other times the gun was almost shooting itself.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/BM10yardtarget.jpg

I tried holding the gun several ways including one handed but the best all around hold for accuracy and speed was two handed and using the Red Dot. It is hard to quickly find the Red Dot and was costing me time on the first shots.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/BM2handshooting.jpg

7 yards. The times actually surprised me as they were mostly as low and even lower than I do with a conventional pistol from a holster.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/BM7yardtarget.jpg

I finished up the last several magazines shooting from the hip at the clay pigeons.
I can report that the neighborhood is now safe from clay pigeons, at least for a couple days.:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/BMhipshooting.jpg

[Wayne02]

Always enjoy your posts M2. Which do you prefer, the bushy pistol or the plr?

[smullen]

Cool pics sir...

I kind dig those Bushy AR-Pistols and would really like to get one to compliment my carbine...

It'd be nice to see a video of you doing 5 and 10 round shots into various targets...

I wander if a Green laser (if visable durring the day) would get you on target quicker?

LAst question, is getting on of those the same as buying a regular handgun like a Glock, S&W, sig or whatever???

[M2 Carbine]

Which do you prefer, the bushy pistol or the plr?
Not putting down the BM but the PLR has it beat in most every way. Like, much lower cost, longer barrel with the same overall length, IMO a better operating system, far easier to clean, more accurate, a real lifetime warranty and better looks. I call my BM "The paint-ball gun".:)

That said, I still like the AR pistol.

It'd be nice to see a video of you doing 5 and 10 round shots into various targets...

I wander if a Green laser (if visable durring the day) would get you on target quicker?

LAst question, is getting on of those the same as buying a regular handgun like a Glock, S&W, sig or whatever???

Video would be easy. I've got a nice camera. But my Internet connection is so slow I don't mess with video anymore. We do have some cool video though. This a frame "capture" from a video shooting the PLR.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/PLRwithoutflashhider.jpg

I have one of the (expensive) Green lasers. For a while I had it mounted on a PLR. I'm a big laser fan and practice with lasers several evenings a week but I really don't like using lasers in daylight.

Pistols such as the AR and Kel Tec PLR come under the same Federal rules as any other pistol but some states restrict them.

BTW if anyone isn't familiar with the PLR, this is the stripped pistol.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/KTPLRhand.jpg