Colt Double Action 1911


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Holland
February 22, 2008, 12:14 PM
I just saw a Double Action Colt 1911 at a gun store. I had never heard of these before. The gun store owner said quote,"Colt made some of these in the 1980's before the big Double Action craze so they did not sell well so Colt stopped making them." I dry fired it in the store and it really is Double Action,I pulled the trigger and that cocked the hammer back.
My questions are:
1. Have you or you ever heard of these,I wasn't able to find any info on them anywhere on the web?
2. Were they really made by Colt,or is it some kind of after market conversion?
3. Are they reliable or do they malfunction?
4. It's for sell,for $650,do you think I should buy it?
5. What other web sites are out there where I could find out more info on this gun?
Question numbers 2 and 3 above are the most important to me.
Thanks in advance for any helpfull info.
John

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Pat-inCO
February 22, 2008, 12:34 PM
http://www.gunblast.com/SHOT_2008_1.htm

wditto
February 22, 2008, 01:30 PM
I need to sell the house....far toooooo many new pistols coming out....

Holland
February 22, 2008, 04:17 PM
Pat-inco, I looked at your link to the Shot show,thanks but that is not the same gun that I am talking about. The one I saw had a Hammer. It was not DAO Double Action Only. It was DA/SA so it could be fired either Double Action OR Single Action. Does anybody know about this DA/SA model 1911 that I saw?

SDC
February 22, 2008, 04:26 PM
Are you maybe thinking of the Colt Double Eagle? These were made between 1990 and 1997, in several finishes and GM and Commander lengths. There have also been a few semi-custom DA conversions done on the 1911 platform.

Double Eagle:

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p22/StaceyC123/Colt_DE.jpg

bannockburn
February 22, 2008, 06:14 PM
Holland

As SDC posted, if you saw a Colt 1911 DA, it was probably a Double Eagle. Available in .45 ACP and 10mm., the Double Eagle and Double Eagle Mk.II never achieved anywhere near the market share that Colt had hoped for with their new models. If you're really interested in a DA 1911, you might want to consider something by Para-Ordnance; their DA design is far superior to the one that Colt used, and parts and warranty work would be readily available from the factory.
http://www.paraord.com/

surjimmy
February 22, 2008, 11:54 PM
I owned a Double Eagle, never should have sold it. Shot very tight groups, good gun.

DougDubya
February 23, 2008, 01:55 AM
It looks like Colt is going with their take on the LDA - which could just be their Double Eagle with a normal looking trigger guard.

Chindo18Z
February 23, 2008, 03:51 AM
http://www.m1911.org/full_models.htm (scroll down to "DA Conversions / 31 May 2003)

You may be talking about the old Seecamp Conversion 1911s (which were made in the 80's)
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Quote from m1911.org:

"Seecamp Double Action Conversion:

Seecamp licensed the rights to the 1911 DA/SA conversion to a company called Omega Defensive Industries. In 1981/82 they produced a pistol known as the ODI Viking, using the Seecamp DA setup, in two models; a fullsize and a commander size pistol. It was the only full production commercial true DA/SA 1911 built (as opposed to the handmade Seecamp guns).

They went belly up pretty quickly, and Essex Arms bought their remaining stock of parts. Apparently, at some point Essex decided to make some frames for ther parts and made somewhere between 200 & 300 frames and sold them complete with the Seecamp-license ODI action parts."
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Note: The pictures show conversions with Colt rollmarked MKIV Series 70 uppers...

I owned a Double Eagle Officers Model and was pretty pleased with it. Wish I still had that one.


Hope this helps.

Ranger Rog
March 11, 2008, 06:25 PM
Here is a link to a unit that will convert a series 70 / 80 to a double action first shot with a hammer drop safety.........

https://shop.cylinder-slide.com/ccp51/cgi-bin/cp-app.pl?usr=51F55236&rnd=9953002&rrc=N&affl=&cip=66.146.179.18&act=&aff=&pg=prod&ref=19&cat=1&catstr=HOME:1

berkbw
March 11, 2008, 06:51 PM
Thanks for the link. Although I didn't understand it too well, I will log on to C&S and find out more.

b-

gb6491
March 11, 2008, 07:48 PM
Here is a link to a unit that will convert a series 70 / 80 to a double action first shot with a hammer drop safety.........
It's not a true double action in that pulling the trigger cocks and fires the pistol;

"To fire the gun, simply thumb the cocking lever down. That action automatically flips the spur of the hammer to its cocked position. Pulling the trigger causes the sear to release the hooks on the hammer ring and allows the ring to rotate forward under mainspring tension. The hammer, which is connected to the hammer ring by interlocking lugs, also rotates forward, striking the firing pin and igniting the cartridge primer." http://www.cylinder-slide.com/SafetyFast.shtml

Regards,
Greg

Ranger Rog
March 11, 2008, 11:51 PM
Yes you are correct Greg, it is the only action that we have found to meet the RSO requirements for a single action to meet the GO, that is good enough for me.....It is pretty close......Works like a champ........

owlhoot
March 12, 2008, 05:33 AM
Holland, yes, Colt made them. Yes they are reliable. And I would give $650 for one. When Colt made the Double Eagle, I believe they also used the Seacamp design. It's an interesting gun. But, if you ever needed parts associated with the trigger mechanism, they would be mighty tough to come by.

And the shop owner told you wrong. Colt didn't come too early to the DA party. They came too late. The Sig, S&W, and others were already there in .45 cal. when Colt tried to jump on the bandwagon.

gb6491
March 12, 2008, 08:49 PM
Yes you are correct Greg, it is the only action that we have found to meet the RSO requirements for a single action to meet the GO, that is good enough for me.....It is pretty close......Works like a champ........
I like the idea of it myself and your endorsement of it is a good sign...might be one coming my way in the future.
Thanks,
Greg

Dan-O
March 12, 2008, 11:15 PM
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w71/dantruesdale/DSC02147.jpg

Hunter0924
March 12, 2008, 11:51 PM
You would be talking about the Double Eagle.
The DAO New Agent will not be out till later in the year.

DougDubya
March 13, 2008, 12:44 AM
Hopefully they'll come out with a Government Model and Commander -sized version as well - with sights.

ButchG17
March 13, 2008, 02:54 AM
I'd have to do some research to confirm, but as I recall, the Colt Double Eagle was the end result of the gun that Colt submitted to the M9 military contract trials......

ButchG17
March 13, 2008, 03:51 AM
You may be talking about the old Seecamp Conversion 1911s (which were made in the 80's)
Mine was done by Louis Seecamp in September/October of 1972, and it cost $98.....which was a lot considering it cost me $115.00 (+ 3.45 tax) for the new 1969 vintage Government Model in July of 1970. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/ButchG17/Colt/Seecampconv-r.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/ButchG17/Colt/Seecampconv-l.jpg

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