just bought me a accusport bisley in 45 colt / 45 acp convertable...


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boots
February 23, 2008, 01:22 PM
can anyone tell me about it???


it is all stainless with a 5 1/2 inch barrel and i just bought it for the 45 acp feature..always wanted a single action in 45 acp...


so, i have a few questions...is the 45 long colt a good round??? i remember vaguely hearing how 45 long colt had inherently weak brass and it was not as good a round as the 44 magnum....is there any truth to this???


also, 45 acp revolvers usually require moonclips...how am i going to use moonclips on a single action revovler??? am i going to have to take the cylinder out everytime i want to reload the 45 acp cylinder??? i sure hope not...


thanks for your time and i will post pics as soon as i get the gun...

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gggman
February 23, 2008, 01:30 PM
You don't use moon clips with single action revolvers, just double action. The 45 colt is an excellent and very versatile caliber, but it's not a good idea to load it to 44 mag specs, because the 44 mag cases are beefier in the head area. I'm not familiar with the Accusport gun, but I have a Ruger Blackhawk 45 convertible, and I love it.

Vern Humphrey
February 23, 2008, 01:34 PM
Modern .45 Colt brass is as strong as .44 Magnum brass. If your gun is a traditional Single Action, based on the Colt, however, the gun is not strong enough for high-pressure loads -- stick with the recommended loads in your reloading manuals.

In modern designs -- like the Ruger Blackhawk -- the .45 Colt can be loaded to slightly shade the .44 Magnum.

Majic
February 23, 2008, 01:35 PM
Your gun is a limited model made by RUGER for Accusport. The .45 Colt is an excellent round but take note it comes in different power levels. Your revolver can handle all the power levels as it is nothing but a Blackhawk with a different gripframe. Due to the case size and the larger bullet the .45 can be made to be more powerful than the .44 magnum. The brass is not weak. That story comes from the days when the brass had a balloon head but those days are long gone and that brass is becoming a collector's item. .45 Colt brass was used to develop the .454 Casul cartridged. Your single action does not require the use of moonclips. The ejector rod of the single action kicks out the spent case.
Your revolver is one of a series made by RUGER for Accusport. There has also been just a .45 Colt model, a .44 magnum, a .41 magnum, and now a .357 magnum. I have one of the first .45 Colt and a .41 magnum models. They both are great revolvers if you like the Bisley grip. Not all people care for this grip style.

boots
February 23, 2008, 02:26 PM
thanks for the info fellas...can't wait to go shoot it...

boots
February 23, 2008, 02:27 PM
forgot one thing, is my gun built on the blackhawk frame, or the superblackhawk frame???

boots
February 23, 2008, 08:27 PM
can anyone help me out here???


is my gun built on a blackhawk, or superblackhawk frame???

is there a difference??

ez45
February 23, 2008, 11:31 PM
they use the same frame. that gun will take any factory load you can throw at it. enjoy the heck out it.

campbell
February 24, 2008, 12:05 AM
I've got one of the convertible Acusports myself. They're great.

Some good modifications, if you're so inclined.

Belt Mountain base pin. My personal preference is the Keith #5 (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=827630&t=11082005)

Get the cylinder throats reamed by http://www.cylindersmith.com/

Good instructions on tuning the trigger spring: http://www.cylindersmith.com/triggerspring.html

Extra power base pin latch spring, can be had from Wolff (http://www.gunsprings.com/Revolver/Ruger_RvNF.html#RSA).

Steel rear sight. My personal preference is the target sight from Bowen (http://www.bowenclassicarms.com/shop/).

is the 45 long colt a good round???

Can handle heavier bullets than the .44 mag, and in the same bullet weights can match .44 mag ballistics at about 1/3 less pressure.

Colt46
February 24, 2008, 01:42 AM
I'd say you scored. The .45 colt will do just about anything you want it too. Not quite as high pressure as the .44 mags, but a good bullet at 1000 fps will do wonders and be easy to shoot.
If you want to get serious about it you ought to handload and even cast your own.

boots
February 24, 2008, 01:54 AM
thanks for the info fellas...i paid $599 for mine...seems expensive for a blackhawk based gun, but oh well...gotta figure in about 30 for shipping and 30 for the ffl transfer and it comes out to about $660...

how did i do price-wise???

anyways, thanks for the input and what kind of 45 colt ammo would you guys recommend for hunting and also for self defense???

i am not a handloader so i would like some factory loadings that you guys like...as a hd gun, i think i might use the 45 acp cylinder...but i would like recommendations for some nice 45 colt loadings..thanks...


by the way, here are some pics of my gun:

http://san1.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/092978000/92978669/pix308686640.jpg
http://san1.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/092978000/92978669/pix308686609.jpg

campbell
February 24, 2008, 04:22 AM
550-600 is pretty common on the price, so you didn't do bad.

Speer probably makes the best standard pressure SD round with their 250 grain Gold Dot (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=571013&t=11082005).

For hunting rounds, check out DoubleTap (http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/index.php?cPath=21_38).

BlkHawk73
February 24, 2008, 10:23 AM
The Bh and SBH use the same cylinder frame. Differences are the hammer, gripframe and chmberings (very limted exceptions to this).
While the price paid is a bit high, if you're happy that's what matters.
theone you show is of the second run of these as the first run had the rosewood grips and the bbl warning on the side as opposed to under the bbls where it is beng located now.
Great gun! Have 7 of these Acusports. Enjoy!

boots
February 24, 2008, 11:53 AM
thanks fellas!!!

by the way, anyone ever have any work done by gary reeder????

i'm thinking of sending the gun in to get a 5 1/2 inch octagonal barrel lke this:
http://www.reedercustomguns.com/revolvers/images/alaskanhunter1a.jpg



a gunfighter grip conversion like this :
http://www.reedercustomguns.com/revolvers/grips/images/grip1.JPG


and i want to get a free wheeling cylinder, install a belt mountain base pin and get a vapor hone or high polish finish...leaning towards high polish...

should run me about $1000 on top of the gun...does it sound worth it to you guys???

nicholst55
February 24, 2008, 12:33 PM
Gary Reeder does exceptional work. That said, you can easily freewheel the cylinder yourself. There are instructions online. You can also install the Belt Mountain base pin yourself. As far as the octagonal barrel and gunfighter grip conversion? If that's what floats your stick, go for it! It's only money!

BlkHawk73
February 24, 2008, 01:13 PM
Reeder...oh boy. I can't anything about his worl from personal experince but I've heard it's very good. However, dealing with him and his clique is nearly impossible. You either agree with what they say or be chatsized. You take what he wants to do on your gun or you're completely in the wrong and will be critsized for it. yeah, the customer serive on a personal level is atrocious. Being called an --- ---- and other four letter words isn't my idea of good CS. maybe to some but again, unless you'r in his clique you're a nobody.
As for the grip and bbl...I'd opt for a simple Bisley gripframe. Very little difference except in the cost and you'll have much more choices and availability in grips should you wish. Octagon bbls, while neatin appearnce are expensive - usually in the $400 range extra for such work. Were I to have this done, I'd look at Clements or thelikes of Bowen long before anyone else got the work.
Head to http://single-actions.phpbb3now.com/ and see what other are doing and get some first hand know-how on the big name 'smiths.

Colt46
February 24, 2008, 07:07 PM
Some people like him and others find his style too brash. He does good work and has a whole line of Reeder chamberings. I'm not a huge fan of his engraving.
Other smiths that can do work is Jim Stroh(Alpha Precision), Alan Harton, John Linebaugh, and Bowen Classic Arms.

Bowhunter57
February 26, 2008, 07:45 AM
boots,
Where are you from?
I'm in Ohio and there's an Accusport store about an hour from where I live. My next purchase is going to be a Ruger Bisley in 45 Colt with a 7 1/2" barrel, but I'm not interested in the conversion.

Congradulations on the purchase of a fine revolver! :)

Good hunting, Bowhunter57

Quarterbore
April 15, 2008, 06:45 PM
I am getting in this late but boy I wouldn't buy a special "limited run" Blackhawk to send to have customized as most of your special parts will come back in a box.

If you want to this kind of gun, I would buy a standard stainless 45 Colt and have that worked up and then have a custom 45 acp cylinder made if you want a convertible.

JMHO, but the gun you have is darned near perfection and th eonly thing I wish is they were made with the 4 5/8 barrel as I like the shorty Blackhawks.

smee781
April 15, 2008, 07:06 PM
I agree with quarterbore,

Shoot it and see how you like it first and if you want alll that stuff done to a gun, get a plain jane model and have the custom work done to it. You paid for a custom gun and want to pay to undo what you just paid for.:confused:

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