Set me up for reloading 45acp


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themayor
February 23, 2008, 01:32 PM
Not new to reloading but new to loading pistol loads. Please help me get setup for loading 45acp. I have a dillon 550b so tell me what are the good dies, brass, powder and bullets to start out with. I would like to start with good stuff so go from there thanks

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Vern Humphrey
February 23, 2008, 02:30 PM
I like Bullseye for loading the .45 ACP -- others will disagree.

If you have a Dillon 550B, you will probably best be served with Dillon dies.

For brass, I use range pickup, mixed brass. I have accumulated about 10,000 pieces over the years. You can look in the ammo section of Shotgun News and find once-fired brass advertised. If you want new brass, I like Starline.

I shoot mostly cast bullets in .45 ACP, and like the Lee 230 grain tumble lube cast out of straight wheel weights and lubed with liquid Alox. this is a bit smoky in an indoor range, and requires cleaning both pistol and dies every so often, but it shoots well.

ArchAngelCD
February 23, 2008, 03:29 PM
I use W231 for the .45 Auto and a 230gr LRN bullet. I'm using Laser Cast and Roger's Better Bullets right now. I charge 5.5gr W231 under a 230gr LRN bullet.

neal7250
February 23, 2008, 04:07 PM
I use 6.1 grns of wsf powder under a winchester JHP 230 grns. I get the bullets from Cabelas, at 500pcs. Makes a great bullet.

neal7250
February 23, 2008, 04:08 PM
I use 6.1 grns of wsf powder under a winchester JHP 230 grns. I get the bullets from Cabelas, at 500pcs. Makes a great bullet.

neal7250
February 23, 2008, 04:16 PM
I use 6.1 grns of WSF, under a winchester 263 jhp. I buy bullets from cabelas 500 at a time, abd the braass comes fromhttp://edsbrassandreloaders.com/main.sc

jfh
February 23, 2008, 06:09 PM
Good advice so far--to which I will only add the following:

1. If you like accuracy, consider using a 200-gr. LSWC and about 5.0 gr. of 231--my current version uses 5.2 gr. You might have to experiment a bit and even put in a light spring, but it is a good route to "barely Major" loads that allow fast recovery.

2. WSF is another fine powder for the .45ACP, and yet a third is AA#5 for MAX loads and velocity.

Even though Vern is an old fart who likes Bullseye, I consider it uncivil and dirty. I also found that keeping brass sorted by headstamp improves accuracy at no cost--but range pickup brass should be fine. I too use a lot of Starline Brass, and I personally like to have some new brass on hand as well as the pickup brass.

Jim H.

Vern Humphrey
February 23, 2008, 06:15 PM
Why you whipper-snapper, come 'round here where I can get a swipe at you with my cane.:p

Walkalong
February 23, 2008, 07:52 PM
2. WSF is another fine powder for the .45ACP, and yet a third is AA#5 for MAX loads and velocity.

Agreed, although I also like AA #2 as well for less than max loads.

Welcome to THR themayor, although I'm not sure if I voted for you. :rolleyes:

themayor
February 23, 2008, 09:35 PM
THanks guys so dillon are the best dies to get? also who has the best price on starline brass best i found was 74 for 500 is that good?

neal7250
February 23, 2008, 09:56 PM
I feel, just my opinion, that Dillon pistol dies, should be used on a dillon machiine. They have a deep taper on the mouth of the die, that can facilitate high speed relaoding.

pinkymingeo
February 23, 2008, 10:04 PM
Buy Starline brass from Starline. Their price includes shipping, and is the best deal I've found.

themayor
February 24, 2008, 01:55 AM
what is the deal with starlines brass on their site i dont see 45acp?

jfh
February 24, 2008, 02:09 AM
TheMayor: At the Starline site, it's listed as 45 auto--$78.75/500, 137.80 / 1000.

I found it on both the price list and the order form.

Walkalong: Compare and contrast #2 and 231, if you would, please....It need not be a three page essay, but grading will be done for grammar and punctuation.

Jim H.

Walkalong
February 24, 2008, 11:21 AM
Compared to W-231, AA #2 is cleaner, flows through a measure like water, (very consistent) gives great ES & SD numbers, and is very accurate with the plated and jacketed bullets I am using.

I shot nothing but W-231 for years and it is a fine powder for .45. It meters well, burns fairly clean, & is very accurate with lead bullets at any reasonable charge weight. Great .45 powder for a new reloader.

If you want to stick with Winchester powders, WST is great for target loads in the .45.


How did I do on grammer & punctuation? My mom is an English Major, she would be upset if I was using improper English. :D

jfh
February 24, 2008, 11:26 AM
Thanks, Walkalong--looks like I should try some #2.

As for the grading--excellent, simply excellent. I'll give you a 78, or C+. (I learned to grade before "grade inflation" came in during the Seventies.)

Jim H.

Walkalong
February 24, 2008, 11:37 AM
C+ :eek:

Man, mom's going to be disappointed. :D

rero360
February 24, 2008, 01:08 PM
I've been using 5 grains of titegroup under a 230 grain FMJ from winchester in remington cases. its towards the upper end of the range but it burns really clean.

GaryL
February 24, 2008, 02:43 PM
I have RCBS, Lee, Hornady, and Dillon dies for my 550B. The 45acp is setup with Lee dies. They all seem to work equally well to me.

CBS220
February 24, 2008, 02:50 PM
Walkalong-

It's "grammar", not "grammer".

:p

ulflyer
February 24, 2008, 03:09 PM
RCBS are in both my 550's. I had a primer punch? break and they sent me a couple free. I also like Bullseye and 231 with 200 and 220 lead bullets. More recently have been using plain Clays as its a bit more bulky and easier to see when dumped in the case. Seems a tad cleaner, although I've never thought Bullseye to be dirty like a lot of guys say. All three meter well in the Dillon.

Walkalong
February 24, 2008, 06:57 PM
Walkalong-

It's "grammar", not "grammer".

Dang it, sure is. :o

Vern Humphrey
February 24, 2008, 07:01 PM
It's "grammar", not "grammer".
I hope you're not talking about my grammer -- 'cause if you are and she catches you, she'll put something on you that Lava soap won't take off.:p

Walkalong
February 25, 2008, 07:43 AM
Well now, we sure cain't have that, can we. :D

jfh
February 25, 2008, 09:08 AM
Egad--and I was the fifth grade spelling champ.

ADKWOODSMAN
February 25, 2008, 09:56 AM
Another old fart for bullseye!!

1911NM
February 25, 2008, 04:17 PM
ok, ok, if the old farts are voting, I gotta be in here. Either W231 or Clays (not universal clays) work just dandy, meter well and bulk enough to see easily in a .45acp brass. They both shoot fairly clean for outdoors, and I happen to be using Berrys 200g. plated SWC, and the freebie Hornady 230g jacketed HP I got with the press and dies. Winchester LP primers.

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