Unbelievable Saw®?


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Dionysusigma
February 24, 2008, 01:54 AM
Was browsing through some material about SHT... er, camping stuff for hikers, and the recommendation of a flexible saw came up. I googled the term, and expected to see either those cheap Wal-Mart cable saws that break after five minutes of use or those PVC saws.

Then, I came across this: http://www.unbelievable-saw.com/ , and it looks promising. Unfirtunately, I've not been able to find any objective reviews on it.

Anyone have any input? :confused:

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sm
February 24, 2008, 02:09 AM
I am not familiar with that particular offering.

I am with one that sure looks like that one Timber Folks carried I assisted some years ago.
These Tree Trimmers used shotguns, and I assisted with the shotgun part with them.

They traveled light and had a flexible saw and that sucker would flat cut!

IIRC, they said their saw bore out of the Air Force survival saw, much smaller, still like the one Chuck Yeager used to get out of a Prison after being shot down, or used to make a splint for another downed pilot and evading the enemy.


Get one, cut something down and report back.
I am curious!

*neat*

hso
February 24, 2008, 03:31 AM
The manual chainsaw chain saws have been around for a while. They cut well.

Boats
February 24, 2008, 07:32 AM
I have found pocket chainsaws to be great in theory but not in practice. They twist, kink, get gunked up, are impossible to sharpen, require using both hands,, and are next to unusable in poor light.

A high quality folding handsaw is a better choice IMO.

My favorite:

http://www.silkysaws.com/pocketboy170elt.htm

http://www.silkysaws.com/images/pocketboy170elt.jpg

When the blade gets dull, $17.00 gets a brand new one for swapping in.

OUTDOORBUY
February 24, 2008, 02:39 PM
I have used the Unbelievable Saw and have found it to be a great tool. It truly is unbelievable! As can be seen at the web-site www.unbelievable-saw.com, it cuts through a 4": limb in just 11 seconds. It operates with a pulling motion so it is very easy to use.

feedthehogs
February 24, 2008, 05:41 PM
All well and good if what your cutting is secure, as in still part of a tree. Try cutting and holding a loose branch or log with that type of saw.

RancidSumo
February 24, 2008, 06:00 PM
I have used the Unbelievable Saw and have found it to be a great tool. It truly is unbelievable! As can be seen at the web-site www.unbelievable-saw.com, it cuts through a 4": limb in just 11 seconds. It operates with a pulling motion so it is very easy to use.

Makes you wonder considering it is his first/only post...

OUTDOORBUY
February 24, 2008, 07:11 PM
I Have Found That For A Limb That Is Not A Part Of A Tree, Simply Put One Foot On The Limb With The Saw Underneath And Pull. This Gives The Same Speed As The Video And Is As Effective As Any Saw For Cutting A Fallen Limb. Great For Cutting Fallen Limbs To Length For Garbage Pickup. I Believe That This May Be The Best Saw In The World For Cutting Falllen Limbs To Length. By The Time You Get A Power Chain Saw Started, You Can Be Finished Most Jobs. It Is Also Great For Cutting Tree Roots Since All You Need To Do Is Get The Blade Underneath The Root And Pull. Since The Saw Cuts To The Inside, It Does Not Dull The Saw In The Dirt.

sm
February 24, 2008, 07:19 PM
Boats,

Good points as always by you.

Tree trimmers were using for emergency use, as they traveled light.
Timber markers did too.

Folding saws are great! Just traveling light and being mobile and flexible was the key, so these little flex saws were like I shared earlier - emergency use.

I still get tickled at tree trimmers and timber markers traveling light and making small fires, or using candle stoves, and having good folding pocket knife like a Slimline Trapper, or Stockman...being out for days/week at a time.

Then we see a person at a road side park, with a grill, and they had more tree cutting stuff than Paul Bunyan just to roast a hot dawg.

"Honey, get the the big Stihl and double headed axe out of the truck, the kids want to cook hot daws and roast marshmellows..."

And folks wonder why women duck under the dash when other cars drive by at roadside parks...

*snicker*

CWL
February 24, 2008, 07:22 PM
I bought a similiar item although mine comes packed into a can the size of two snuff tins.

Although it works, I have found it too heavy to add to my pack.

Dionysusigma
February 24, 2008, 07:29 PM
Heavy? :confused:

Doesn't look big enough to be too heavy for anything unless it's made of uranium... :scrutiny:

sm
February 24, 2008, 07:41 PM
Dionysusigma,

The flex saws I am familiar are not heavy.

Okay, skip the SAK Soldier for now...
Get a handsome quality folder and save a damsel from distress and let her buy you a Soldier.



You need to save up and get a Shing.
Now what good looking gal is not going to go all "pitter-patter" over a fella slicing a lime for her drink with one of these at some shin-dig one has to dress nice?

Get a paper towel or two, as you might drool on your keyboard.
http://www.britishblades.com/home/articles.php?action=show&showarticle=69

*I'm Helping*

mp510
February 25, 2008, 01:01 AM
I have one of those Ultimate Saws- actually, the POcket Chainsaw, which is effectively the same product by the same company. Mine is packed in a tin, and I don't have the plastic factory handles. Instead, I use some homemade handles, which are just wood. Well worth the money. In the tin, they travel real compact.

http://www.pocketchainsaw.com/

CWL
February 25, 2008, 05:55 PM
I guess I'm a stickler for extra weight as I try to go ultralight nowadays.

For me, it is one more item I don't need as I'd prefer to apply the weight towards a small axe instead.

1KPerDay
February 25, 2008, 06:17 PM
I Have Found That For A Limb That Is Not A Part Of A Tree, Simply Put One Foot On The Limb With The Saw Underneath And Pull. This Gives The Same Speed As The Video And Is As Effective As Any Saw For Cutting A Fallen Limb. Great For Cutting Fallen Limbs To Length For Garbage Pickup. I Believe That This May Be The Best Saw In The World For Cutting Falllen Limbs To Length. By The Time You Get A Power Chain Saw Started, You Can Be Finished Most Jobs. It Is Also Great For Cutting Tree Roots Since All You Need To Do Is Get The Blade Underneath The Root And Pull. Since The Saw Cuts To The Inside, It Does Not Dull The Saw In The Dirt.
That Sounds Positively Fantastic. I Wonder If You Happen To Sell These Items.

;)

Caimlas
February 25, 2008, 06:49 PM
IMO, there's rarely going to be a case where you'd actually need such a chain saw in a camping/hiking scenario. You'll be wherever you are for a relatively short while, any any wood-for-fire needs can -easily- be met by scavenging, and groundfall small enough to break by pressure/stepping on will be mostly sufficient. For bigger stuff, you can always do the "push into fire at an elevated angle as the log burns" trick.

For SHTF bug-out, such a chain saw might be useful, depending on how far you're going, how you're getting there, and what's at the location you're going to. If you're going to have to trek manually, and build your shelter when you get there, or need to harvest a significant amount of wood for fires, it'd certainly be useful.

oh, and none of those links you guys have provided are resolving for me. Not sure what the problem is.

sm
February 25, 2008, 07:03 PM
Tree trimmers had these for a first responder tool /first aid tool.
Timber markers did too...

One could use these in an emergency to get limbs off someone (or self) to render first aid until better help with better tools could be used.

These ladies and gents used shotguns to shoot tree limbs.
Some other workers did other tasks, and if they or someone had a limb come down, getting to them was a bit safer with a little saw in some instances that using chain saws, or axes, or hatches...

Just another tool in the tool box and I thought the health safety folks had a really good idea for adding these flex saws to assist these folks.

lesjones
February 26, 2008, 12:11 AM
I've never owned one, but I've seen fellow backpackers use the Sven Saw (http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=13834&memberId=12500226&storeId=226&catalogId=40000000226&langId=-1). Light, folds down to a compact size, and Campmor has been selling them forever.

http://www.campmor.com/images/acc/larger/81057_l.jpg

highorder
February 26, 2008, 12:52 AM
the Sven Saw is my choice in the back country. light, stable, and effective.

and I don't sell them!

alaskanativeson
March 6, 2008, 01:16 AM
I had a Sven Saw and broke it. Of course I was probably 16 and was using it for a job much bigger than I should have been. For a lightweight carrying saw it's fine. I have a Wyoming Saw II which is really sturdy but it's also much heavier. I wouldn't want to carry it in my hunting pack.

I have one of These (http://www.cutleryshoppe.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=7170) which I liked, but I found a Browning take-down saw that is heavy duty aluminum and plastic which is built like a beast yet still pretty light. It's what I carry in my pack today, though I've never seen another one since.

No, I won't sell it to you.

I don't sell saws either, but I will be glad to correct your grammar for you if you need.

Sharpdogs
March 6, 2008, 08:24 AM
I have and sell both the Pocket Chainsaw Military (http://edcdepot.com/merchantmanager/product_info.php?cPath=4&products_id=123) as well as the Ultimate Survival Saber Cut Saw (http://edcdepot.com/merchantmanager/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=15&products_id=21) both have their advantages and disadvantages. The Pocket Chain, at least the Military version is very compact and takes up very little space. The Saber Cut is larger but the case is floatable. Plus it is a little easier to pack back in its case. The Pocket Chainsaws out sell the Saber Cut's about 3 to 1 but this could be because they cost a little less. Both saws are major improvement over those crummy wire saws that plague some survival kits and break in about 2 seconds.

Boats' point about the ability to use a saw with one hand is an excellent one. Especially if you are hurt in a survival situation. That's why I favor carrying a fire starter that only takes one hand to use, like the AMK Sparklite or even a simple bic. I do not have a lot information on folding saws but I have heard good things about Kershaw's model, largely due to its push button locking feature.

Here are a few reviews on two handed saws:

Pocket Chainsaw (http://edcreviews.blogspot.com/2006/11/pocket-chainsaw.html)

Saber Cut (http://www.equipped.org/saws.htm)

Don Gwinn
March 6, 2008, 11:08 AM
OUTDOORBUY, if you ever come back to THR, please do not post commercial spam or post in all caps.

(My guess is that ODB has a Google alert for "Unbelievable Saw" so he/she can respond to any mention in forums or on blogs. I doubt we'll ever hear from ODB again unless someone mentions one of his products again.)

alaskanativeson
March 6, 2008, 06:24 PM
I wouldn't mind the fact that OUTDOORBUY is somehow affiliated with the company, but I think it'd be be good if he was up front about it. If someone out there is making products and wants to brag about them in a forum like this (as long as it doesn't get spam-filled) I can uinderstand it but it would be better if they'd come out and say so. I wouldn't fault them for that, I'd appreciate it. They're trying to communicate with their market (like I said, as long as it doesn't go overboard.)

So let me ask you Don, I'm new here. I want to make sure I follow good board protocols. I posted a link to a product from a company I've used in the past. I'm not connected in any way with the company that manufactures the product or that particular retailer (other than the fact that over the last 15 or so years I've given him lots of my money.) Is it inappropriate for me to do something like that? I'm not promoting them per se, it's the product I use and it's the dealer I bought it from.

Rodger

hso
March 6, 2008, 06:49 PM
Rodger,

If you're not affiliated with a company such that you profit from advocating a product manufactured or sold by them, you're fine.

If you happen to sell the product and you're up front about the fact that you stock it and sell it and people like it and your opinion of it is clearly stated there's not even a problem with that. Many members own or work at gun stores and we'd be foolish tossing them out for expressing their opinion of the performance of a product.

It's just people that are only here to shill a product that end up in trouble (and banned). They can offer their products for sale in the proper subforums, but come into a discussion forum just to drum up business for their product and they're gone.

alaskanativeson
March 6, 2008, 08:25 PM
That's kind of what I was thinking. Glad to know that I can still exercise a little common sense even after teaching for as long as I have.

Surprising, really. My wife will tell you so.

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