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MJRW
January 11, 2003, 06:08 PM
The amount of people concealing DEs in movies fascinates me all by itself. But what are some other amazing concealments that you've seen. I liked how Ahnold concealed a Beretta 92 or 96 on his ankle in Kindergarten Cop. I wonder if a guy that size can actually do that.

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Jim Watson
January 11, 2003, 06:12 PM
The actor doesn't get the gun from the prop man until starting to film the scene where he actually shoots it. You will note they seldom show the draw and when they do, they have not recently shown a view from the side where the gun is supposedly holstered.

MJRW
January 11, 2003, 06:16 PM
Yeah, I figured that. Although I did see Ahnold draw from the ankle. It just amuses me that they act like they've been walking around with 3-4 pounds of gun under a tank top all day.

Triad
January 11, 2003, 06:20 PM
I don't think Ahnold could actually do that. IIRC, he's not as big as he seems, say 6'1" or so.

sanchezero
January 11, 2003, 07:13 PM
I saw this movie where an undercover cop in a muscle-tank and jeans whipped out 2 goldplated DEs when the bad guys showed.

:what:

Skunkabilly
January 11, 2003, 07:55 PM
Cankles.

Calf ankles ;)

.45TCB
January 11, 2003, 10:06 PM
Ever notice that TV or movie cops/Feds who dress in suits always seem to wear their strong side holsters at about 2 o'clock?

Gotta make sure the audience knows you're packin'!

biere
January 12, 2003, 06:50 PM
Someone will know the movie, it has arnold in it and he has to save the world or something. Anyway, he carries a couple mini glocks in his coat sleeves, leather jacket I think, and is able to produce them so easily.

That sort of reminds me of the Taxi Driver movie and someone saying "YOU TALKING TO ME?" Of course at least in the taxi driver you had to wonder about using drawer slides for that purpose. :D At least I did.

I have gotten rather tired of the big ones that come out, the arnold one had me wondering how much bigger coat sleeves need to be to hide baby glocks. Just like people who carry iwb have oversize pants, I was wondering about oversize sleeves.

sanchezero
January 12, 2003, 09:29 PM
Antonio Banderas in Desperado has 2 big-*** gats up his sleeves.

Rugers or Sigs maybe?

:D

otomik
January 12, 2003, 10:28 PM
they were *ahem* "modified" Ruger 89s, in the draw if you put it on slowmo or something you can see the grips are cut just below the triggergaurd.

falconer
January 12, 2003, 11:30 PM
They were P90's in some scenes. You can tell he's loading single stack mags in a few parts.

Flatfender
January 12, 2003, 11:57 PM
Wasn't Kindergarten Cop the one where Ahnold infiltrates the bad guys hangout and whips out a CCW shotgun or something and blows the jukebox away?

They yell at Ahnold "Who are you?"
He says "I'm the pardy pooper"

:D

GW45
January 13, 2003, 09:45 AM
Arnold was in End of Days when he used the Glock 23s from the sleeves of his jacket.

Banderas used both the Ruger KP90 (.45) and the KP89 (9mm), mostly it was the KP90 that he used......

Strange - I can't put either the Glock 23 or the KP90 down my sleeves.......must need a bigger jacket.......:D

Hkmp5sd
January 13, 2003, 09:58 AM
The best concealment has to go to the Joker in the first Batman movie. Remember that revolver with the telescoping barrel? :)

Justin
January 13, 2003, 01:54 PM
The best concealment I ever saw was on a short-lived tv series that aired a year or so ago. Basically, it dealt with a secret wing of the Chicago PD whose task was to keep tabs on all the monsters that inhabited the city. (Sort of like Men In Black, but with monsters instead of aliens.)

The guns they carried were obviously prop guns designed to be big and intimidating looking. The ammo looked like some sort of gussied-up .50 bmg.

Anyway, our hapless heroes are on a monster-busting crime scene, and the lead female, who was wearing black stretch-pants, a shirt, and a leather jacket, reaches around back, and pulls out this humongous weapon, which she has been carrying IWB, Mexican style.:what:

I don't remember the name of the series. It wasn't brilliant or anything, but definately had its moments.

MrAcheson
January 13, 2003, 03:05 PM
The series was Special Unit 2 on UPN. It definitely had its moment although firearms concealment wasn't/isn't one of them. Likewise how Adrian Paul managed to conceal a 4 foot katana under a 3/4 length leather jacket is beyond me.

As an aside, Ahnold is a special case. Evidentally his prop guys go to special trouble with him in order to get him guns that seem to be the right scale to his body. Ahnold is only 6'2" but in his lean movies he's around 230 lbs. and for most movies he is well over 250. Give him a compact and it looks like subcompact, etc. Just look at how small that beretta looked in Kindergarten Cop.

As another aside, hollywood likes big guns. They film well and often have more "character" than smaller guns. Hence John Woo uses 92s a lot in his films and DEs show up more than they have any right to (although MRI marketing helps there too). Plus the only time an actor is actually carrying a gun is when you see it. The only time they carry a real gun (as opposed to a rubber copy) is when they shoot it and you can actually see the gun operate.

DDGator
January 13, 2003, 04:03 PM
How about the Die Hard movie (can't remember which?) where Bruce Willis is naked and wearing a sandwich board but has his gun taped to the small of his back with duct tape? Ouch.

Chris Rhines
January 13, 2003, 04:21 PM
Watch the bank holdup in Heat a few times. You can easily see Tom Sizemore's Galil bulging under his (obviously oversized) suit jacket, and he carries a newspaper in his right hand to shield the barrel from view. Ditto Robert and Val, though they seem to hide their CARs somewhat better.

Funny thing is, given the level of personal observation skills among the herd these days, such perfunctory concealment would probably work.

- Chris

Jim K
January 13, 2003, 11:28 PM
Heck, in Charlie's Angels (the original series), they packed .38 J-frames in their bikinis. Now that is a trick!

Jim

notbubba
January 14, 2003, 12:39 AM
Mr. Keenan,

Farrah could have been carring a BAR and I probably wouldn't have noticed it.:o

Kahr carrier
January 14, 2003, 01:30 AM
In Face Off NIC CAGE was carryin 2 Gold Plated Springfields in the small of his back in a butterfly holster.:what:

Kor
January 14, 2003, 02:26 AM
City Heat - a pretty forgettable Depression-era cop/P.I. flick starring Clint Eastwood(cop) and Burt Reynolds(P.I.), just goes to show that star power does not make up for lame direction and scriptwriting.

The one scene that stands out, though, is where Clint and Burt are both in a shootout in a speak-easy, and Burt pulls out a ludicrously-long Buntline Special-type hogleg, :rolleyes: only to be crestfallen as Clint unlimbers an even longer ballistic phallic symbol. :what: :evil:

norielX
January 15, 2003, 11:14 PM
Just go play any one of the popular First Person Shooter (FPS) games like Counter-strike, or Unreal and try and figure out how these guys can store away rocket launchers, battle rifles, and machine guns! I always find it funny that your characters never seem to be the slightest bit encumbered by all these weapons.

Hkmp5sd
January 16, 2003, 04:44 AM
In Counter-Strike, you can only have one long gun and one handgun ('cept for the Deagles).

For realism, try Infiltration. It's wonderful when you sneak up to look in a window and your rifle barrel punches through and shatters it! Or the really loud knock when you bang the barrel on a door frame.

MrAcheson
January 16, 2003, 10:23 AM
Yup in Grand Theft Auto you move faster/slower depending upon the weapon your carrying. Of course as soon as you switch weapons you're suddenly moving faster. Who knew that sticking a minigun or chainsaw in your pants pocket reduces its weight to zero?

mini14jac
January 17, 2003, 10:19 AM
I was confused for years watching Miami Vice, when Sonny's sidekick Rico would wear his snug fitting tailored jacket over a teeshirt all day, then whip out a nifty little sawed off pump shotgun when the badguys showed up.
I'm wondering "How did he conceal that."

Years later, I figured it out.
It's only make believe. :rolleyes:

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