Life without guns and bombs.


January 11, 2003, 05:09 PM
Date Line January 13th 2003.

The President of the United States in conjunction with the University of California at Berkley has announced the completion and initial deployment of a revolutionary new technology. This Technology is called the “ The LifeSaver”.

Simply put it is a machine that emits a wave form energy that interacts with Nitrate based Explosives and Propellants. Once exposed to this “energy “the effected material explodes. This new device is able to control both the range (between point blank and 200 miles) and direction of its effects. Since all modern conventional weapons use either Propellants or Explosives that can be remote detonated by the Lifesaver device, all notions of War, Law Enforcement and Crime will from this moment on be irrevocably changed. Even Tactical weapons like ICBMs have been rendered obsolete by this new technology.

All Federal Buildings, Key infrastructure and schools already have the device installed and will be protected. Research is underway to reduce the cost and size of the devices to a degree than anyone will be able to purchase a “personal shield’ in short order.

The plans and theory behind the Lifesaver have already been transmitted to every government on the planet as of five minuets ago. Like it are not the world is different than it was just moments ago. No longer will any child need fear a landmine, since all landmines can be cheaply and quickly dealt with. In fact we have two hundred teams already on the ground in the third world nations that have been the battle grounds of developed nations for generations.

We no longer need fear the criminal with a gun since that gun is now far more dangerous to him than it is to the rest of us. Hostage takers, armed robbers, all need to find new lines of work. We have in one stroke removed the teeth from the various terrorist movements world wide.

I encourage all Americans to ponder how this will change all of our lives. To that end I have directed that this announcement be transmitted to everyone so that we can all begin to come to grips with how our lives will be changed with out guns and bombs as a consideration. I have also instructed the NSA and the FBI two Government entities already tasked with monitoring the American people to collect your thoughts and concerns expressed on this matter here in your now obsolete forum. I want to know how you think this will impact you and what direction you want America to take in the brave new world.

George W. Bush
President of the United States

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January 11, 2003, 05:17 PM
I guess this would be a good time to move the explosive ordnances from under my bed.

January 11, 2003, 05:17 PM
put down the pipe and step away.

Oleg Volk
January 11, 2003, 06:08 PM
Fertilizer in the fields might explode :eek:
So what kind of weapons will ATF carry to dissuade people from building their own devices of this kind? Crossbows?

4v50 Gary
January 11, 2003, 06:23 PM
If we had it, we wouldn't advertise it. Think of the tactical advantage we'd be throwing away. Go to war. The other guy drops his gun. We force them to surrender at gunpoint (hey, ours still works). Zero blood except for accidents.

January 11, 2003, 06:34 PM
That went out a bit early, it should be dated March 32, 2003.

Good guys just have to make sure the bad guys have their guns pointed in a safe direction before they deploy the device and make the powder "explode".

January 11, 2003, 07:36 PM
guess i'd better sharpen up the o'l broadsword

January 11, 2003, 07:45 PM
Guess I'd better get a broadsword....

Like the crossbow idea, too.

Gonna play hell with the reloading bench, though.

Mike Irwin
January 11, 2003, 07:47 PM
What do you know....

Cows, pigs, manure piles, and outhouses all over America are going to be exploding...

January 11, 2003, 07:50 PM
Cows, pigs, manure piles, and outhouses all over America are going to be exploding...
So that story I heard about Washington D.C. being reduced to a smoking crater wasn't a joke?

January 11, 2003, 07:55 PM
Gotta wonder what it'd do to an internal combustion engine. And hey... isn't this whole war about preserving the sanctity of the internal combustion engine?

Uh... bigjim, gotta ask: where'd you find this?

January 11, 2003, 07:58 PM
Cows, pigs, manure piles, and outhouses all over America are going to be exploding...

talk about a shtf situation:D

January 11, 2003, 08:05 PM
Cows, pigs, manure piles, and outhouses all over America are going to be exploding...

Perhaps add certain anti firearm organizations

I think I'd rather be around a farm if given a choice of the two camps.

January 11, 2003, 08:05 PM

My tin foil stock just went through the roof.

Don Gwinn
January 11, 2003, 08:08 PM
If they somehow managed it, I might spend more time practicing with my selfbow. Unlike my ultra-modern .45, it'll penetrate body armor like butter.

January 11, 2003, 08:11 PM
Dewey was inaugurated and joyous crowds greeted RMS Titanic's triumphal entry into New York harbour. ;)

Art Eatman
January 11, 2003, 08:12 PM
Works on nitrates, hmmm?

Well, it might take "Them" a while to identify my use of phosphates or iodine compounds...

How about on pure Nitrogen? That's used inside some telephone jackets, to keep moisture from getting inside the lines...:D

Ya know what powers the impact wrenches at Nascar pit stops? Nitrogen, from those all-so-common bottles. If the pure gas is unaffected by this "ray", it will make gas-powered projectile launchers popular for the drive-by crowd.

Ah, the possibilities are endless!

"Officer, we've had a holdup!"
"What sort of weapon, ma'am?"
"A nail-gun!"

:), Art

Don Gwinn
January 11, 2003, 08:31 PM
Nualle, I presumed he wrote it himself. If he didn't, the style is very similar.

Jeff White
January 11, 2003, 08:41 PM
Even Tactical weapons like ICBMs have been rendered obsolete by this new technology.

If ICBMs are tactical weapons now....I sudder at the thought of what STRATEGIC weapons are...


January 11, 2003, 08:47 PM
This is the premise of a VERY anti-gun book I just read called the trigger.

The book mainly was about the the moral and political struggles that the Government dealt with as a result of the changes that resulted from this new weapon. Make no mistake this thing would be a weapon and a powerful one.

I just thought this might envoke some interesting chat regarding what our world would be like with out guns. Would the haves still be able to safegard themselves from the have nots? That type of thing.

In the book the NRA put up a hell of a fight try to keep a lid on this thing but in the end government classified it as a weapon protected by the Constitution and was able to distribute the device. Used our own rhetoric against us.

Good book hard to put down and even harder to tolerate.

January 11, 2003, 08:54 PM
Jeff white Said: If ICBMs are tactical weapons now....I sudder at the thought of what STRATEGIC weapons are...

Notice how Mr White spelled "shudder" above. Its funny how when ever you try to point out how stupid someone else is you expose yourself. :rolleyes:

January 11, 2003, 08:56 PM
No more nitrates? You just caused half the world's population to starve.

Is that a Viking ship on the horizon again? So much for progress!

Ron L
January 11, 2003, 10:30 PM
Crossbow with the pre-ban 20 arrow quiver. :D

Art Eatman
January 11, 2003, 10:42 PM
Now, now, now, bigjim, let's not get our knickers notted over what could well be a typographical arrow.

:D, Art

January 12, 2003, 09:13 AM
guess i better get out my ol trusty( err rusty) red rider repeating bb gun with the compass in the stock.itll put yer eye out.

J Miller
January 12, 2003, 10:48 AM
If such technology existed,
If such technology could be brough to use,
You can be sure of two things.
First the United States would not share it with anyone untill we had some form of amunition that was immune to it's effects.
And the immune ammo would be prohibited for normal citizens.

Control, thats the name of the game. We got guns that work, you don't. WE are in CONTROL.

January 12, 2003, 12:40 PM
A whole book has already been written on this theme: Arthur C. Clarke's Trigger. A scientist discovers that his laboratory gizmo triggers detonation of all the explosives around. And later figures out how to deactivate them without exploding them. And it goes into the various repercusions of the government having this capability. A fun read.

January 12, 2003, 12:51 PM
I better take a nitroglycerine pill.


Headline: Bush Administration Reduces Medical Costs

January 12, 2003, 01:15 PM
Ah, a world without guns. Sounds like bliss-ninny paradise. Of course the world was gunless in the 14th century and the murder rate in Europe was about 25 per 100,000 persons, as opposed to today's rate of approx. 1-3 per 100,000.
Firearms also enabled civilised, agrarian, trade-based cultures to prevail over warrior, raiding cultures like the Vikings or Huns.

Malone LaVeigh
January 12, 2003, 04:41 PM
I knew there was a reason my son and I have been working on a trebuchet for a couple of weeks. Don't think that device will be very effective against pumpkins at 300 feet...

June 26, 2008, 06:58 PM
I was back browseing my old posts. This one did not get the level of interest I was hoping for. Think we could do better now?

June 26, 2008, 08:08 PM
I call bulls**t on this one.

June 26, 2008, 08:22 PM
Magic Device renders all firearms inoperable?

Welcome to the New Dark Ages. Say goodbye to civilization. Say goodbye to unescorted travel for women.

We're now all at the mercy of young thugs with muscle-powered weapons, like clubs and knives.

June 26, 2008, 08:39 PM
I guess I'm out of a job then.

Oh well, that's why we keep out bayonets sharp.

June 26, 2008, 08:46 PM
Definitely has it flaws.

I think it would be great if we could destroy all the bombs and guns in the world. Problem is once possessed it is a bad idea to ask the ones who play by the rules to give them up because then only the dishonest ones will have them. That makes the playing field unequal and puts the others at the mercy of the evil doers.

It's hard to put the lid back on Pandora's box.

June 26, 2008, 08:47 PM
Tactical weapons like ICBMs

Yep, I carry one around in my assault wheelbarrow. I've got a great big rubber band attached so I can fire it like a big slingshot. Gonna hafta get new soles on my mall ninja boots, though, 'cuz it's hard pullin' it back so's it'll shoot far enough to keep from peeling the duct tape off my ceramic plate armor as I'm running for cover.

June 26, 2008, 08:48 PM
This "wave form of energy" would most likely destroy amino acids or nitrates in your body, destroying all life in the irradiated area. It just doesn't make sense to me.

Take off your tinfoil hats people. This just isn't true.

June 26, 2008, 08:55 PM
Funny thing, with all the mispelled words and poor grammar, I was completely convinced that it was truly written by George W Bush himself !!!

June 26, 2008, 08:55 PM
If anything like that was used, the new fire-arms would be coil guns/rail guns and use magnetics and electricity instead of a exploding powder.

You could store way more ammo and have magazines which you could just plug in and recharge.

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