I just picked up my new CZ-83 which will get some use as a CCW piece.
I'm wondering if hollow points are the way to go. Does the 380 have enough oomph to make HPs effective? Will I be better off using FMJs and depend on penetration to get the job done? Maybe it'll boil down to which is more reliable in my gun.
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February 27, 2008, 06:34 PM
.380 ACP JHP all the way for me:
And I got a way shorter barrel then yours!
February 27, 2008, 06:41 PM
Remington 102 grain Golden Sabers here.
February 27, 2008, 06:46 PM
I bought a box of Golden Sabres to try in my gun. Expensive little buggers. I also bought a couple of boxes of MagTech FMJs. $11.99 per 50 rounds.
February 27, 2008, 06:52 PM
Golden Sabers in my PPK/S too.
February 27, 2008, 06:54 PM
I also use 102 gr Golden Sabers, if using hollow points in my .380s.
February 27, 2008, 06:56 PM
In a semi-auto pistol, reliability is issue number one. Different pistols cycle differently with different rounds. What that statement means is some types of ammo will cycle smoothly, while others will jam. Test fire ammo before you use it as a self-defense load. That said, go for HPs if they work reliably in your CZ.
February 27, 2008, 07:09 PM
They will expand out of the 83's 3.8" barrel, and that 102gr'er is the way to go....
February 28, 2008, 02:36 AM
They may not expand reliably but the sharp edges cut into bone better. The FMJ will have better penetration but have been known to bounce of the skull. Use HP for head shots and FMJ for body shots.
February 28, 2008, 02:50 AM
Use HP for head shots and FMJ for body shots.So...when you load your magazine up before you leave the house, how many head shots and how many body shots and in what order do you plan for?
February 28, 2008, 02:52 AM
Corbon DPX in all 5 of my 380's
February 28, 2008, 02:58 AM
So...when you load your magazine up before you leave the house, how many head shots and how many body shots and in what order do you plan for?
LOL! Beat me to it..... :D
February 28, 2008, 03:24 AM
I have a CZ83 also. I'd rather carry something a little bigger in caliber but proper shot placement of course means more and you do have 12+1 rounds on tap. I'd rather have this gun if under fire than a 5 shot snub .38spl and many carry those for CCW.
February 28, 2008, 02:46 PM
I like the Golden Sabers also. You'll find that the bright shiny surfaces aren't just to make it pretty, as I first thought. It also makes the ammo cycle more reliably. They're worth the price.
Marlin 45 carbine
February 28, 2008, 02:51 PM
I handload/reload for all my pistols. GS's give tighter groups and perfect function in my BDA, 5906 and 1911.
February 28, 2008, 04:14 PM
Use HP for head shots
I'm not that good, nor are most people, that I could depend on that. Shoot for the body ALL the time.
February 28, 2008, 08:19 PM
There is a very comprehensive list of .380 ACP tests and ballistics here: