My reply to the "1000 posts" silliness. Please read. Important.


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Rachen
February 28, 2008, 11:11 PM
YAY Folks!

But come on. We have a long battle for our constitutional rights ahead of us, and all we care about is this? It reminds me of these posters on other forums that always go "first post, first post".

I was just on NY Newsday dot com and was looking at the political section, where they have all the different issues that the candidates stand on. Saw illegal immigration, abortion, healthcare, the usual stuff, but not one mention about gun rights.

Not a good thing guys, not a good thing at all. They are trying to bait us again, make us think they won't do anything slimy and putrid with our cherished Constitution.

So, congrats on those with the 1000 posts, but come on people! Lets try getting a thousand people into the NRA each day. Remember what Mr. John Sigler and Mr. Wayne LaPierre said about our strength in numbers.

If we don't start uniting our ranks now, we are going to get acid splashed on our face again, and unlike 1964, we ain't going to have another Gun Owners' Protection Act to cover our burns with.

So guys, let's realize the gravity of this situation.

We have a lot to do.
First, we have to eliminate the discrimination and horseplay between gun owners. Like the .45 crowd versus the 9mm crowd. Or benchrest shooters versus combat shooters, or centerfire shooters versus blackpowder........etc............That stuff is only going to hurt us and let the antis come in and try to bite us. Lets stop it now.

Second, we gunnies don't have an effective method of communication so we can alert each other to the latest breaking news. So what happens if some school in Atlanta starts pulling some Stalin-style brainwashing on our kids. And the folks in Georgia backcountry don't even know whats going on and fails to warn their own kids about these dangers at school? Yes we have THR and other stuff but how many American gun owners actually come on here and share and talk? Only a small percent. Yes only a small percent. The majority of them is in the dark about current issues. Like I said on another post I made in the activism forum, we have to start putting superior technology to use. We have emails, cell phones, IMs, etc....... at our disposal. Lets put them to work and establish a communal network between every single conservative and libertarian who cares about their country. Doesn't hurt to work together and build a communications network so we can all be alerted to latest civil rights issues.

It seems like the gun banning Libs have the power of hundreds of supercorporations and multi national companies behind them to push their twisted pervertedness. If we don't start working together, we are going to be consumed.

Understand people? We have a a lot to get done, and we should start working together now so we can rebuild our political infrastructure that the fake conservatives and neocons have damaged.

Unless we want our future generations to be detained in concentration camps and mass book burnings becomes a sport.

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siglite
February 28, 2008, 11:15 PM
Unless we want our future generations to be detained in concentration camps and mass book burnings becomes a sport.

Comparing a celebration of the thousand post mark to the holocaust might be a bit over the top.

Rachen
February 28, 2008, 11:21 PM
Comparing a celebration of the thousand post mark to the holocaust might be a bit over the top.

I was just saying what is going to happen to this country if we let down our guard. A la "Fahrenheit 451". Mr. Bradbury predicted our future for us if we don't get our act together.

kingpin008
February 28, 2008, 11:21 PM
Uh, yea.

Seriously, this board creates enough 2A support and activism, I think the occasional "1,000th Post" post is allowable.

Heck, if nothing else, I'd think that those of us who have been around to post 1,000 posts (or more! a fine fellow by the name of SM comes to mind!) can be allowed a little leeway.

I mean, I hear what you're saying - I just think you might be a little too concerned about something that doesn't really detract from all the good that this forum does.

XD Fan
February 28, 2008, 11:26 PM
I don't get the problem. :confused::confused: We need to occassionally celbrate the little things in life.

siglite
February 28, 2008, 11:28 PM
Rachen, I'm not disputing your points. I'm all about activism, believe me. I'm just sayin'.

hankdatank1362
February 28, 2008, 11:29 PM
All work and no play makes Rachen cranky...

Rachen
February 28, 2008, 11:32 PM
I didn't mean to be so humorless, but I just went onto Newsday dot com, and got pretty scared that the candidates don't even have gun rights as part of their agenda.

I have been doing some research of my own lately, been browsing on other gun forums, and realize there is just so much we have to do to start rebuilding our infrastructure and strengthening our defenses. The insults and blows that different sports shooters throw at each other, such as the competition shooters arguing with combat shooters and the like makes me SICK!

There is plenty of openings in our community making us vulnerable to 21st Century Fascism.

So some humor now and then is okay, but we got to continue working.

Because on September 18th, 1931, Guomingdang and CCP kept fighting each other and bashing at each other, unaware that the Japanese imperialist jauggernaut waited just beyond the ancient fortress walls at Shanhaiguan. What happened at dawn wasn't pleasant at all.

I don't have anything against humor but we have to work togther in the meantime. After my "research" on different forums and news sites and such, I realized, with a sudden shudder of the heart, at the sheer amount of work that we have to do to ensure the protection of our future.

I have been up all day studying for a couple of exams for next week in the meantime, so I am going now, take a nightcap, blow out my lamp and retire for a bit till the cock crows. Then I will see everyone again tomorrow. So have a safe night everyone.

siglite
February 28, 2008, 11:35 PM
You'd be surprised how easy it is to become active in supporting the 2nd. If you want to help, there are numerous organizations out there that will gladly accept your time and energy for furthering the cause. Maybe that'd be a good direction to shift your research and reading. "Which of these organizations gets it, and how can I help?"

Robert Hairless
February 28, 2008, 11:38 PM
Rachen's point is nevertheless real and valid.

Gun owners need to become active in supporting the ongoing struggle to retain their ability to keep and bear arms. The most basic way to do that is to become a member of the NRA so that its numbers grow.

Although the NRA is the largest and most effective national gun rights organization in the U.S., it has only about 4 million members. And yet there are an estimated 80 million gun owners in this country. So 5% of the gun owners are supporting the other 95%.

Although every single one of those 95% who aren't NRA members probably has truly great reasons for not joining, they don't change the arithmetic: 5% of gun owners are carrying the burden for the other 95%

PoconoEagle
February 28, 2008, 11:44 PM
Wow just wow. :barf:

ReadyontheRight
February 28, 2008, 11:49 PM
I just went onto Newsday dot com, and got pretty scared that the candidates don't even have gun rights as part of their agenda.

More power to you for trying to teach pigs to sing (it frustrates you and annoys the pig), but it's even harder to teach pigs you've never met...who have not even heard music...to sing via the internet.

I am personally not going to fight the fight through the website of a local newspaper outside my locality. From what I know of New York, gun rights are not part of the agenda in many NY media. The fight is hard enough here in fly-over country. Good luck.

The Internet is a great place to share information and ideas. THR is a touchpoint for me to get updated on the pulse of RKBA. It's certainly not the only place many of us push the Bill of Rights and RKBA. I think most here would agree that we do our best work at a local level and in person. Taking a non-shooter out shooting is worth at least 1K posts on ANY website.

CajunBass
February 29, 2008, 03:56 AM
What exactly would you prefer for someone to post when they happen to reach 1000 (or whatever milestone) posts?

Harvster
February 29, 2008, 05:54 AM
Woo hoo post 136!

Sorry, but come on. There are probably 300 or so new threads started daily in the 20 or so subforums here at THR. Just skip over the ones you don't want to read and if you do click one that isn't what you expected just hit the back button. You've lost a couple seconds. There are plenty of good threads and plenty of not so good threads. It will always be so.

strat81
February 29, 2008, 09:39 AM
FWIW, the MSM attributes the lack of discussion on gun control to Al Gore's loss in 2000. Apparently his anti-gun stance turned a lot of voters off.

Hokkmike
February 29, 2008, 09:51 AM
First, we have to eliminate the discrimination and horseplay between gun owners. Like the .45 crowd versus the 9mm crowd. Or benchrest shooters versus combat shooters, or centerfire shooters versus blackpowder........etc............That stuff is only going to hurt us and let the antis come in and try to bite us. Lets stop it now.


No, these things are usually for fun and spark interest and informative debate in our sport/hobby. I am a .40 S&W man, but when it comes down past the debate, I, like all shooters, support ALL pistol shooters and their choices.

Rachen
February 29, 2008, 03:01 PM
No, these things are usually for fun and spark interest and informative debate in our sport/hobby.

It's all fun and games until it causes our community to be divided and irreparably segregated. Then we wonder why it is so hard for us gunnies to get along.

jlbraun
February 29, 2008, 03:04 PM
...says the guy with 362 posts.

:neener:

Hokkmike
February 29, 2008, 03:09 PM
It's all fun and games until it causes our community to be divided and irreparably segregated.

Sorry, I just don't see this happen. Real arguments and divisions come from discussions of religion and/or politics. In over 30 years of discussion, debate, and argument I have never heard of ANYONE irreparably segregated from another over any any guns discussion - UNLESS it is over the right to keep and bear arms.

I am on your side; I just don't see any danger here.

czdavid
February 29, 2008, 03:40 PM
I'm confused. How is this post helping the unification process that you say is so desperately needed? I see guys who agree........."but." I think you raised a point, but you really didn't unify anything.

So what?! They guy had 1000 posts. Good for him! Let him enjoy his moment--he did nothing wrong.

highorder
February 29, 2008, 03:51 PM
FWIW, the MSM attributes

you lost me there...

and to the OP:

aren't you the guy that, thru philosophy and martial arts, has the human body and mind figured out? If so, get off the computer and go champion the 2A and RBKA cause in the real world. I hear what you're saying, but the sky in the interweb always seems to be falling, and no one can hold it up with a mouse.

celebrating 1000 posts is not a hell-worthy tresspass.

Louisiana Carry
February 29, 2008, 04:00 PM
http://shanoogie.com/thread-pics/thread-pic%20(108).jpg

highorder
February 29, 2008, 04:02 PM
Sgt Hulka, our big toe. :)

Seminole
February 29, 2008, 04:38 PM
I'm just posting a response here so that I get that much closer to 1000 posts!

:neener:

Louisiana Carry
February 29, 2008, 04:53 PM
Now that I think of it, I founded Louisiana Carry, I have a 2000+ page about American history/liberty, I am a volunteer range safety officer (not to mention being a foster parent and business owner), and I still found time to start a thread (about being number one) on my home State's gun board when I became the top poster.

Kinda throws a wrench into the "all we care about is posts" bit, it would seem.

All I am saying is that if we ever get so serious that we can't enjoy life, haven't the anti's already won?

John G
February 29, 2008, 05:02 PM
I've a little over 450 posts in six years of THR. I estimate my thousand-post party to be sometime in 2015. Look out! :D

357WheelGun
February 29, 2008, 05:41 PM
Unless we want our future generations to be detained in concentration camps and mass book burnings becomes a sport.

Wow, Godwin's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law) rearing its head in the original post. That has to be some kind of record.

Superlite27
February 29, 2008, 05:58 PM
Second, we gunnies don't have an effective method of communication so we can alert each other to the latest breaking news.

Ummmm. THR seems to work O.K.

Sure, it's not as broad and instant as one of those wonderful campus alert systems. But I usually drop in every day to see what's happening, vote on polls, share ideas, and get good advice. (I sometimes reply, too. But I'm not really here to boost my post count so I can be a bigtime important "Look at me! I've got a brantillion bragillion posts!" guy.)

I'd rather read a post from someone who has 8 posts and something enlightening to say than someone with 284,973 posts about nothing.

TexasRifleman
February 29, 2008, 05:59 PM
I have to say, the "Lighten Up Francis" is about the best reply to this.

It doesn't always have to be "sky is falling" serious......

springmom
February 29, 2008, 06:23 PM
My 1000th post is waaaaaaay back in my rearview mirror. And I have been around here long enough that I think I can safely say that all the activism, communication, and awareness you can want is on here; that the people who post here ARE active in supporting RKBA; and that your concerns are significantly overblown. :)

People can get a lot done and still cheer for small milestones and celebrations. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Springmom

JohnBT
February 29, 2008, 06:34 PM
I'm still mad I had to start over here when TFL closed. I think both sites should show our total post count. :)

Just kidding. Sort of. ;)

John
Member www.vcdl.org
NRA Patron Member

Code Monkey
February 29, 2008, 08:05 PM
Huh?

Home Page:
http://www.myspace.com/rachen

Ooooooookay.
:scrutiny:

Checkman
February 29, 2008, 09:05 PM
There is nothing wrong with having some fun. You can be active and still have a life. I'm already planning my 2,000 posting.

siglite
February 29, 2008, 09:47 PM
Huh?

Home Page:
http://www.myspace.com/rachen

Ooooooookay.


When I first saw that, I had a real *** moment. And my mind started screaming "what is this BS?" But.. I'm glad I stopped and thought about things before responding to this.

If you think about it, this actually brings everything together. Here's a person who's proud of his heritage, but has seen first hand some of the worst possible outcomes of a disarmed and oppressed populace.

Everything makes sense now. I totally get where Rachen is coming from.

Don Gwinn
February 29, 2008, 10:13 PM
Louisiana Carry won this thread 12 posts ago.

Code Monkey
February 29, 2008, 10:35 PM
Yeah, that was a great post.
I love that movie.

Rachen
March 1, 2008, 03:45 PM
When I first saw that, I had a real *** moment. And my mind started screaming "what is this BS?" But.. I'm glad I stopped and thought about things before responding to this.

If you think about it, this actually brings everything together. Here's a person who's proud of his heritage, but has seen first hand some of the worst possible outcomes of a disarmed and oppressed populace.

Everything makes sense now. I totally get where Rachen is coming from.

No offense to you and Code Monkey, but I am actually from there. Now, people can say what they want about China is, but I am from there. My parents and relatives lived through Mao's era, and they said it was the best era they ever lived in. And no, they were not privileged or special. There is no such thing as celebrities in Communist China. Mao's era was an era so conservative that even if you smoked cigarettes during high school, every one of your fellow students will shun you and not be your friend.

Now, as I am typing this, I am suddenly seized by a desire for some Tofu with fried baby shrimp and shredded parsley. Some hot steamy rice and a platter of spicy Sichuan pickled vegetables:) Thats what people commonly ate during the 60s-80s era in PRC.

I can share with you more great stories about life in China if you want me to.

Autolycus
March 1, 2008, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Rachen: It's all fun and games until it causes our community to be divided and irreparably segregated. Then we wonder why it is so hard for us gunnies to get along. I doubt that any intelligent gunowner has said, well Jimbo likes 9mm so I am going to vote for an anti-gun politician so he will come around to liking .45 ACP.

Originally posted by jbraun: ...says the guy with 362 posts.
:neener:

Says the guy with 1,668 posts.

:neener:

Autolycus
March 1, 2008, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by John G: I've a little over 450 posts in six years of THR. I estimate my thousand-post party to be sometime in 2015. Look out! The baloons that I prepared in your attic might have popped by them, so don't be dissapointed.

Code Monkey
March 1, 2008, 04:14 PM
Nah, that's ok Rachen.
Surprise, surprise my family is from China! They (and countless others) went through a lot B.S. under Mao and his madmen. So spare me the manifesto.

You claim you are for the second amendment, yet you seem to embrace hardcore communism and some anti American sentiments.

Rachen
March 1, 2008, 04:22 PM
You claim you are for the second amendment, yet you seem to embrace hardcore communism and some anti American sentiments.

Actually............................No. I do not embrace hardcore communism. You should read my post about communism on the "Legal" thread. Wait, actually, I'll copy it onto here. Chinese communism is more like nationalism and it is different than what the libperverts/left wing socialists preach.

And I love America just as much as I love my home country. On my page, there are a lot of things about the War For Southern Independance as well as regular gun stuff and martial arts.

And Code Monkey, I assume you should be familiar with some of the songs and videos on the page too.

PS- Hope you look foward to the Olympics! They just finished refurbishing Terminal 3 of the Beijing airport. It is supposed to look like a dragon from above. I can't wait to go there!

And here is my overall opinion:They are basically the same thing to me. Communism/liberalism oppresses the masses, uses the "plight of the working class" to attack people. Fascism, uses "we have to defend our rights as rich people and our businesses and capital interests", to attack people. Same exact thing. It's like asking whether you want to get splashed in the face with a concentrated solution of sulfuric acid than with a concentrated solution of sodium hydroxide.
Well, one's an acid and one's a base right? Opposite extremes? Yes, but you will still get your face burned so bad that if you stand in front of a chimpanzee cage, the occupants would stop j*rking off. No offense, but just got to clarify.

Now, Chinese communism is something entirely different. We are communist in name only. We are actually very nationalistic and have little interest in liberal policies. It's like trying to compare table salt to an acid or a base. But liberals here in the States are working on a differenrt agenda. They are mixing up a solution that will burn people's faces right down to the bone, and leave nothing but a skull behind.

owen
March 1, 2008, 04:52 PM
Let 1000 flowers bloom!

41magsnub
March 1, 2008, 05:18 PM
Frankly the premise of this thread is misguided. If we can't have a little fun what is the point? It's not "silly", it's fun. Is that not something you are capable of?

I appreciate that you are concerned about 2A issues, we all are. But that is not the only thing this forum is about and the divisiveness between gun owners over caliber going beyond arguments on the merits? Get over yourself.

I echo the Lighten up Francis remark.

Rachen
March 1, 2008, 05:24 PM
I have nothing against the humor. I just want to remind us to keep working hard, because there is so much there is to do.

41magsnub
March 1, 2008, 05:25 PM
Glad to hear it, you still come across as a humorless ass. You might want to work on that.

Code Monkey
March 1, 2008, 05:27 PM
Sorry High Roaders, but I had to do it.
This guy (Rachen) is a phony and a mall ninja. Mind you, per his Myspace page, he's 20 years old and lives in NYC.

Look up his posts for more gems...

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=3963252#post3963252

I carry my massive LeMat when I have to take the subway during the bleak hours. I guess I am lucky I don't have to take the A or the 2,4,5.

When the girls inched closer, I would have reached into my bag, which is always on my lap, and thumbed back the hammer to the grapeshot barrel. When they attacked, I would have let them have a searing blast of grapeshot at point blank range.............But I don't think thats a wise action to explain to the judges later.

But as a peaceful and calm person as I am, I would have mediated and pleaded with the girls to the last minute before letting them have it. I can't stand sh*t like this. Attacking someone for no reason. Gang initiation or no, well if they are initiating a new member, that new member could smile at death, and anybody else who wants to join in the fun can say hi to the grim reaper too.

I am a hard working man who supports his family and cares dearly about all his friends. I won't ever take scumbaggedness like this.

I would have changed cars before anything else could happen. I like to avoid situations, actually there are a lot of times on the subways when I changed cars to avoid a potentially dangerous situation. Always expect the worst, and when you know that things are about take a turn to the sh*tty brothel toilet, time to leave.

Unlike those nasty pop songs these filthy teens listen to nowadays, which last no longer than a month or two, the LeMat has lasted for over 150 years, and more than several scum were smitten by it during the War of Northern Aggression. This video is an example of materialism and consumerism gone completely wild. What has happened to the America of buckskinners, tanned deer hides, the smell of gunpowder in the morning, and untained meadows and clear crisp pastures as written in Frazier's novels.

You carry a LeMat revolver on the NYC subway!? I call shenanigans! I seriously doubt you A) have one. B) Have a carry permit in NYC.
The rest of that post is just chock full 'o Tyler Durden!

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=4239806#post4239806

Even though I don't carry to class because of the stupid gun free zone, I am still pretty much a student of Chinese Wushu for the past 7 years.
If someone barges into my class and holds a gun to anyone's head, I would find ways to get close to the perp and break their neck and spine, and crawling/running while crouched low and between people and rows of desks makes good distractions and also throws the brains of anybody into momentary confusion. Enough confusion to get right there in front of them, up close and personal.

Really? That's pretty fantastic. Counter Strike fantastic. You should join one of the "Seel Teems". Oh, and if you could have carried to class, would it have been that single shot NEF scoped rifle? Don't forget your trauma plate and Tactical SHTF wheel barrow.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=4152159#post4152159

Actually I am serious because these things can make the uneducated male think that it is MANLY to downgrade females and it also teaches them the only reason that females exist is for the pleasure of the male. WELL THAT MEANS THAT MEN ARE GOING TO BE EDUCATED IN THE WRONG WAY. THEY WILL STOP THEIR DEVOTION TO FAMILY AND BECOME ADULTERING SCUMBAGS.

I am sorry but I am a respectable man from a respectable society, I don't want anything like these unnatural sins to be loose around the community and befouling the air. I have seen how people are turned negatively by porn. And where I come from, porn is treated just like opium. Anyone who trafficks it or promotes it will be sentenced to death, anyone who possesses them are sent to reeducation camps in order to get their minds right again. We have to cure them, and at the same time punish those who spread poison in our community.

Go sell crazy somewhere else. Wer'e stocked.

:D

TimboKhan
March 1, 2008, 05:36 PM
It's all fun and games until it causes our community to be divided and irreparably segregated. Then we wonder why it is so hard for us gunnies to get along.

If you want to know the truth, I think one of the reasons that gunnies can't get along is because not enough of it IS fun and games. We take ourselves much to seriously as a group. There are serious aspects to shooting and guns, and we need to protect our rights, but we need to loosen up a bit too.
Who wants to join a community in which a simple celebration of having 1000 things to say is met with "We are on the verge of being herded to concentration camps. Get active.". Not me, thats for sure.

So, lighten up. THR is a general gun forum, not an activism forum. There are ample posts in which activism is the key topic, so it shouldn't be hard to find those if thats your thing.

Rachen
March 1, 2008, 05:48 PM
Code Monkey, you are going way beyond the line. Comparing me to a mall ninja and phony.

You are like Hillary Clinton, trying to smear mud on a fellow party member.

I was trying to start a civilized conversation with you in my last post and you come back and pull some Clinton tricks on me just because you disagree with my views. Sure I have had disagreements with many people here, but I never went over the line didn't I?

NI SHI YI GE HUN BEI BI DE XIAO REN.

Code Monkey
March 1, 2008, 06:02 PM
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/3/1/iztoolate128488858670312500.jpg

Rachen
March 1, 2008, 06:09 PM
You can insult me, bash me, call me fake, etc.......
But you won't ever see me replying back to you with the same rudeness and juvenile inconsideration that you posted. I have no problems with my self-identity and I certainly don't have to resort to cowardly bashing.

You can find all my other posts you don't like and put em' all here. I still would be just as comfortable as I always am when I am here talking to everybody.

WAO BU SHI YI GE XIAO REN. WAO NAI MEI YI GE REN DANG WAO DE PENG YO, YIN WEI WAO SHI YI GE ZHEN ZHEN DI NAN ZHI HAN. TING DE DONG BA?

Winchester 73
March 1, 2008, 06:11 PM
Code Monkey just inspired me to take the Mall Ninja Aptitude Test.The lower the score the better.
I scored a 31 out of a possible 100.Good, but could show improvement.
For my age group though, I'm almost unbeatable ,a 99 out of 100.
Think I'll go to Outback and celebrate.
You too can take the test:

http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=6753325773046944943

Code Monkey
March 1, 2008, 06:17 PM
Rachen, I'm not insulting or bashing you.
But I am calling you out because you are a fake.
There are a lot of holes in the tall tales you spin. We really don't need people like you here.

Have a nice day.
:D

Rachen
March 1, 2008, 06:18 PM
I took it. I scored 20/20. Thanks for posting the test though.:D

Rachen
March 1, 2008, 06:20 PM
Rachen, I'm not insulting or bashing you.
But I am calling you out because you are a fake.


I am no more fake than Hillary Clinton is a pro gun conservative.

I do want to ask you one thing though?
What do you know about LeMats?

Also want to ask you something: NI TING DE DONG ZHONGGUO HUA BA?

Code Monkey
March 1, 2008, 06:29 PM
I do want to ask you one thing though?
What do you know about LeMats?

I carry my massive LeMat when I have to take the subway during the bleak hours. I guess I am lucky I don't have to take the A or the 2,4,5.

I know you don't carry a LeMat on the NYC Subway during the "bleak hours".

Hmmm... you own a LeMat with a carry permit at tewnty years of age in NYC?

Fughettaboutit.

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