Is There any Benefit to Joining the NRA for Life?


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Fleetwood_Captain
February 28, 2008, 11:15 PM
I'm currently an annual member and I just received an offer to join for life for $500, half the normal price. I've been trying to figure out whether or not this would be a good value.

If I took that same $500 and threw it in a bank account generating 5% interest, I could withdraw annual membership dues at the full rate of $35 dollars for 23 years before the well ran dry. This increases to 32 and 62 years for the discounted rates of $30 and $25.

Now I'm not planning on letting my membership slip, but given that it takes a lifetime for a life membership to pay off and that nobody can predict the long-term future of the NRA and the gun culture, are there any benefits to joining for life other than having bragging rights?

I'm just wondering what other NRA members have to say about all of this.

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JesseL
February 28, 2008, 11:37 PM
1. Good luck finding a bank that will give you 5% on $500.
2. I wouldn't count on annual dues staying at $35 for the next 23 years
3. I had heard about Life Memberships going for $350 recently.
4. $500 (or $350) given to the NRA now will probably do more to protect your freedoms than $805 over the next 23 years.

When is the best time to fight to protect your 2A rights? 50 years ago.
When is the second best time to fight to protect your 2A rights? Right now.

Gunnerpalace
February 28, 2008, 11:45 PM
That should be a poster, I am serious too that would make a good one.

gunman42782
February 28, 2008, 11:55 PM
Ditto what JesseL said. The main advantage I see is knowing you did your part to preserve all of our rights. That is why I became a Life Member many moons ago.

zxcvbob
February 28, 2008, 11:59 PM
I'd rather keep paying my dues rather than doing it all at once because I have more bargaining power that way. If the NRA pisses me off enough, I can threaten to leave and they lose a revenue stream. If they have all the money up front, what is their incentive to listen to me?

Harvster
February 29, 2008, 06:17 AM
If you're not a life member than you don't get the decoder ring or learn the handshake......dang...I've said too much already...nevermind.


Seriously, the price will only continue to climb, so if you can afford it I say do it now. I view it as similar to leasing a car vs. owning.

Double Naught Spy
February 29, 2008, 07:46 AM
Yes, there is. It means you will never be lonely, flooded with junk mail from the NRA and every gun-related company they sell your name and address to until you die. You will forever be hounded for more donations by the NRA because apparently if you can join for life, they think you have a goodly amount disposable income.

Linda
February 29, 2008, 08:39 AM
Yes, there is. It means you will never be lonely, flooded with junk mail from the NRA and every gun-related company they sell your name and address to until you die. You will forever be hounded for more donations by the NRA because apparently if you can join for life, they think you have a goodly amount disposable income.


None of which is true. I *maybe* get 2-3 pieces of "junk mail" from the NRA per year. They don't send that stuff to Life Members, plus I have never once received a phone call from them, as a Life Member.

The advantage of becoming a Life Member is, you pay $25 quarterly. You will be paid up in 5 years at a very cheap price of $500. That's half of what a Life Membership is going for right now. Plus, if you let your "yearly" dues lapse, and get a gun stolen, you will not have your automatic $1000 in gun insurance.

Titus
February 29, 2008, 10:50 AM
Q: How can I reduce the amount of mail I receive from the NRA?

A: Simply email us at membership@nrahq.org or dial 800-NRA-3888 and request to be placed on the "Do Not Promote" list. This will significantly reduce the amount of mail you receive without affecting important mailings, magazine service, or your membership renewal.

Titus
February 29, 2008, 10:51 AM
Also, you won't lose your vote for 5 years as you would if your annual membership lapses for any reason.

lee n. field
February 29, 2008, 11:49 AM
Is There any Benefit to Joining the NRA for Life?

You don't get dunned to re-up every year.

KMBRTAC45
February 29, 2008, 05:52 PM
Original quote by:Linda
None of which is true. I *maybe* get 2-3 pieces of "junk mail" from the NRA per year. They don't send that stuff to Life Members, plus I have never once received a phone call from them, as a Life Member.


I'm with Linda on this. Since I upgraded to Life Member I have gotten NO junk mail.

Border
February 29, 2008, 08:24 PM
PRIDE! Even the stickers etc. say I am pro Second A-All the Way!!!

I wanted to help increase their war chest NOW!

Plus, all the pro reasons above! :D

MaterDei
February 29, 2008, 08:37 PM
DNS, you're wrong!

While not perfect, the NRA is the best thing going for the RKBA community.

Sistema1927
February 29, 2008, 09:01 PM
The way that I look at it, I am not going to change my mind about the importance of guns, the Second Amendment, and self-defense anytime soon.

Being a Life Member allows me to demonstrate my commitment to the cause.

Junk mail? I haven't seen any, but wouldn't it be refreshing to get some that reflects your interests instead of the stuff that normally give my mailman a hernia?

Robert Hairless
March 1, 2008, 02:38 AM
When is the best time to fight to protect your 2A rights? 50 years ago.

When is the second best time to fight to protect your 2A rights? Right now.

Well said.

But let's not forget that DoubleNaughtSpy has spotted both a potential problem and a potential cure for it. He has identified the potential problem: the NRA/ILA does solicit donations, usually for such frivolous things as defending your Second Amendment rights. Why pay your way when you can be like DoubleNaughtSpy?

DoubleNaughtSpy's cure for the potential problem is twofold: don't support the NRA and discourage others from supporting the NRA. That is an effective cure. When the NRA is sufficiently weak, it will stop attempting to solicit money.

DoubleNaughtSpy has shown you how to cure the potential problem: when there is no NRA, there will be no individual gun ownership in the U.S., and no one will need be concerned about NRA requests for donations. Then DoubleNaughtSpy will spread his wisdom to other special interest forums and help them.

My wife and I both are NRA Life Members. There's little chance that I'll live long enough to balance that cost against the cost of annual memberships for the rest of my life.

But we didn't become Life Members to save money. If we wanted to save money we would have become like DoubleNaughtSpy and 95% of the other gun owners in America. Instead we chose to be one of the 5% of gun owners who carry the other 95%.

What's fascinating about that other 95% is that they show neither gratitude nor guilt. They insult the 5% who carry them. No surprise there.

We get no more NRA solicitations after we became Life Members than before. But DoubleNaughtSpy, like other non members of the NRA, is an expert on the NRA and absolutely everything else. We have much to learn from such people. I'm serious: it pays to read what they say because there's always much to learn from their opinions. Read them carefully and think about them. It's an education.

Anyone who is terrorized by receiving requests for donations from an organization such as the NRA has my sympathy. I envision gun owners cowering in fear at the approach of the mailman, piteously whimpering in a corner, cradling a telephone so they can speed dial 911 for assistance. I wonder sometimes how they can bear up under the stress and my heart goes out to them. Will their invasion of unwanted mail never cease? Many of those gun owners crumble. Their nerves shattered at last, they are institutionalized and spend the rest of their lives trying to recover, but to no avail.

Once a proud people, proclaiming their firmness in the face of all enemies, shouting cries of defiance such as Molon Labe, they were done in by solicitations from the NRA. Fortunate it is that Iran and North Korea have not yet discovered the power that could be theirs. Instead they focus on acquiring nuclear weapons.

average_shooter
March 1, 2008, 02:49 AM
Temporary jack - Rob, you might want to be careful who you jump on and for what. You deride Double Naught Spy here for apparently doing the same thing you are doing over in another thread concerning three very good pro-gun bills.

[Robert Hairless]'s cure for the potential problem is twofold: don't support [Ron Paul] and discourage others from supporting [Ron Paul]. That is an effective cure.

Fixed it for you. ;)

Robert Hairless
March 1, 2008, 03:38 AM
Temporary jack - Rob, you might want to be careful who you jump on and for what. You deride Double Naught Spy here for apparently doing the same thing you are doing over in another thread concerning three very good pro-gun bills.

Darn, would you believe that I thought Ron Paul and the NRA were entirely different. How much did you pay to be a member of Ron Paul?

It's not that I don't value your observations but are you planning to stalk me from thread to thread or is this only a brief fling in which you'll lose interest after your passion is spent? :)

By the way, my name isn't "Rob." Just thought I'd mention it in case you decide to continue this relationship.

If you're through with your "temporary jack" ....

Nobody's_Hero
March 1, 2008, 07:41 AM
I don't think this is helping the O.P.

Buttermilk
March 1, 2008, 03:40 PM
I guess it all depends on what you look at, so here goes. The money derived from an annual membership is a very small amount. The magazine you will get will take a large chunk of it. Then, the payment on your FREE $1,000.00 policy on yours guns will take some money. I don't have any way of knowing how the money is dispersed after that but I'm sure it goes to pay a person to enter your name in the membership list and send you the decals. Gee, we are running short of money here. Some amount has to go to services. Do you have the time, ability, desire to travel all over the country and speak on behalf of all of us gun owners? I don't!!! BUT,,,, Wayne LaPierre and Chris Cox and others do. And they do a great job of it!! They are so much better at it than I that I will send them my money to keep putting the message out there.
Now, on the life membership, you get a term life policy of $10,000.00 and all of the above. And that extra money, goes to pay for a lot more things and people. And to get a lot more message out to a lot more people. There is an easy payment plan if you choose. And, you won't have to worry every year for the rest of your life whether you have paid up and kept people speaking for you.
Now, here's two other things that you get and/or support. You get to vote and you support all the hunter safety programs. The reason so many people don't get hurt when out in the field, is hunter safety, the Eddie Eagle program, or one of the state wildlife programs that are required by many states and are patterned after the program developed by the NRA.
Just go on and do it, And "Thanks" to you when you do. If at all possible, please join a state association of gun enthusiasts and help your association and the NRA become an unbeatable TEAM in your state.

Cesiumsponge
March 1, 2008, 04:14 PM
I did the NRA life membership promo. I still plan to donate when I've got a surplus.

I'm already a member of the Second Amendment Foundation
I'm already a member of the Washington Arms Collectors.
I also have an application for the Gun Owners of America.

I do what I can, within reason. As much as I try to make a difference on a personal level, these fine organizations are force multipliers for my hard earned dollar. None of them are perfect, but I'd take a flawed hero over no hero.

thegriz
March 4, 2008, 09:04 AM
Being a Life Member allows me to demonstrate my commitment to the cause.

I'm with systema on this one. I wanted to make a point and stand up for something important.

I am proud of my life membership and proud that I was able make that kind of financial commitment to the NRA. I look forward to the day I'm able to make every single family member a life member of the NRA.

I also want to show my boys that 2A is a real priority in this family.

I love to give money to causes I'm passionate about whenever I can afford it. I believe that kind of encouragement, along with personal service, yields ongoing and long-term benefits because it sometimes motivates others to put their hearts into the cause too.

hobgob
March 4, 2008, 12:24 PM
I am not a life member, i just joined the NRA two weeks ago thanks to the group buy discount here at THR, I'm a college student right now so cant afford the life membershiP. however, i believe very strongly in our second amendment rights and will continue to support the NRA as long as i can still carry a gun at the end of the day!

Mr. James
March 5, 2008, 03:50 PM
But we didn't become Life Members to save money. If we wanted to save money we would have become like . . . 95% of the other gun owners in America. Instead we chose to be one of the 5% of gun owners who carry the other 95%.

Yeppers.

What's fascinating about that other 95% is that they show neither gratitude nor guilt. They insult the 5% who carry them.

The insults are the manifestation of that guilt.

When is the best time to fight to protect your 2A rights? 50 years ago.
When is the second best time to fight to protect your 2A rights? Right now.

Simply brilliant. Pithy, to the point, true.

FLA2760
March 5, 2008, 04:58 PM
I am a Life Member of NRA and it was worth it. They offer EPL option (extended payment life) which many utilize.

Joe Gunns
March 6, 2008, 04:09 PM
Robert Hairless and JesseL nailed it.

lefteye
March 6, 2008, 07:42 PM
The NRA is not perfect - neither am I - but we are together in the struggle for the right of law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms, not to defend any particular government, but to protect ourselves against all threats -foreign, domestic, private, or public.

NRA Life Member
RMEF Life Member
Vietnam Veteran

PressCheck
March 7, 2008, 01:31 PM
I've been a Life Member for years, and never get junk mail or spam from them.

guil2000
March 10, 2008, 07:32 PM
Well, as you can tell from my sig line, the NRA has gotten a lot more from me than yearly memberships would have cost, and that's not counting the contributions to the NRA-ILA, Friends of NRA, etc. And guess what? They will be getting more!!!

Yes, it is that critical, and the greater the numbers, the greater the influence, and the greater the fear of the Brady Bunch et al.

Border
March 10, 2008, 07:57 PM
Yeah, I just bought more NRA stuff, sent the ILA some coin and wrote Arnold Schwarzenegger some hate mail for signing that microstamping bill! Yahoo has a function that will alert you to any anti-gun legislation etc. I am amazed that almost every day some political puke is authoring more legislation that will only punish the honest firearm owner!

LIFE MEMBER!

TEDDY
March 11, 2008, 08:30 PM
I joined the NRA in 1939 as a jr in high school.kept my membership up whill in the navy.did not alway get the magazine,somthing about the mail went down with the ship.became life in 1960 and endowment in 2000.(you also get your name on the front door when you pass by.)dont forget the museum,fantastic.
--:rolleyes:---:confused:---;)

zxcvbob
March 12, 2008, 10:56 AM
Did anyone answer the question (I may have missed it) about Life Membership vs. sending them a check every 2 years? Is there a difference in the insurance or something?

I am a regular member, and I had trouble for a while with them calling all the time when I wasn't home and pestering my wife. I called them up and told them I never wanted to hear from them *by phone* again, but I would read anything they mailed or emailed to me. It hasn't been a problem since.

I'm looking to join another organization too, and not sure who. SAF maybe?

Titus
March 12, 2008, 11:39 AM
The differences I can think of are how much you might pay over time depending on membership price increases and the possibility of losing your vote for 5 years if your not-life membership lapses.

IllHunter
March 12, 2008, 01:07 PM
I chose long ago to upgrade to life and stop fooling with annual dues. Now years of activism (FNRA,EVC,ISRA etc.) I realize that I have a soapbox, I know folks who think like me, and where I live that ain't so common. I've taken to giving $ to NRA instead of wasting it supporting political candidates that have no chance of winning. It's a hard and bitter pill to swallow knowing that I have no political representation but I communicate with the lawmakers and speak my mind. My dues haven't paid for my subscription,premiums,hat and other goodies, my contributions have. If you think $35 annually is a "revenue stream" you should try and look at a bigger picture. The point of membership is that no other group can say to a politician, "I'm one of 4,000,000, I'm the NRA"

MattB000
March 24, 2008, 03:24 PM
If for no other reason, your formula is flawed due to the fact the annual membership will likely go up in price over time. Someone already mentioned you aren't going to find a 5% rate. Even if you did, you would be taxed on the interest anyway.

Range Hound
March 29, 2008, 02:18 PM
Membership in the NRA is an investment in your 2nd Amendment right. I totally agree that you become a Life Member and then you donate as you can to help protect your rights and investment. I bought my son a life membership when he turned 18 as my dad bought mine. I recently upgraded both of both of us to Endowment Members. It was a great way to give a gift to both my son and the NRA.

So is it worth it to take advantage of specials offered on memberships? Absolutely, it gives a great justification to send money to protect our hobby.

Zeke/PA
March 29, 2008, 04:36 PM
I have been a Life Member since 1960 and just recently used the Endowment Member option.
Minimal shortcomings beside the point, the N.R.A. is in the forefront as far as protecting our Second Amendment rights.
We certainly need the Second as studying national politics shows.
Zeke

geekWithA.45
March 29, 2008, 04:40 PM
If I took that same $500 and threw it in a bank account generating 5% interest, :what:

I haven't seen banks offer rates like that...well, certainly not since I've been old enough to have enough money to save.

GearHead_1
March 29, 2008, 08:02 PM
While not perfect, the NRA is the best thing going for the RKBA community.

MaterDei,

You're right! Though the NRA doesn't always have its act together, nobody else is out there doing anything good for me. I recently upgraded my membership from an Endowment Member to that of a a Patron. My Life Member leather jacket was starting to show the wear so I ordered a Patron Member jacket while I was at it. I'm not someone who likes to advertise for anyone but I do like wearing an NRA jacket.

brickeyee
March 30, 2008, 09:49 AM
The NRA-ILA is NOT funded by regular membership dues.

It is the political/lobbying arm and ALL its money must be kept separate or the NRA would loose its tax status.

Even as a benefactor I continue to give money to ILA.

Dorryn
March 30, 2008, 01:02 PM
The OP wanted to know what differences he could expect as a Life member versus continuing a yearly membership... NOT whether he should bother with the NRA or whether it was worth it. He stated clearly that he is already a member.

These pro-NRA threads are priceless, all the martyrs come out of the woodwork, patting each other on the back. :)

I would feel guilty about not joining, except I would hate to deny people the pleasure of looking down on others who dont. I might feel gratitude if I thought you contributed money for my benefit- but the fact is that you support because you feel its worth it for yourself. The fact that you end up supporting my right to own guns is completely incidental.

Edit: I dont hate the NRA, im just entirely indifferent.

BBQJOE
March 30, 2008, 07:31 PM
I got the $500 offer and took it. That was well over two months ago. I still have as yet to see my jacket.
I did get a card saying they were backlogged.

Fburgtx
March 31, 2008, 06:49 PM
I would feel guilty about not joining, except I would hate to deny people the pleasure of looking down on others who dont. I might feel gratitude if I thought you contributed money for my benefit- but the fact is that you support because you feel its worth it for yourself. The fact that you end up supporting my right to own guns is completely incidental

Yeah, that's what I'm looking for is your gratitude. Good grief. I'm trying to protect a right for myself, my children, and my grandchildren. That's why people vote. That's why people contribute money to political campaigns. That's why people fight in wars. Unfortunately, the money I contribute DOES benefit you. It's rather sad that you wouldn't do the same for your fellow gun owners. Yeah, man, you're a real rebel.

Fleetwood_Captain
April 1, 2008, 03:22 AM
Just to clarify, my question is just like what user Dorryn mentioned, an argument in Annual vs. Life membership.

I've been reading american rifleman since clinton was in office and I like the NRA as a whole. Granted, their not perfect, but I think they do more good than the macro 2nd amendment organizations give them credit for.

After all, there are is a lot of misinformation out there. The liberal media paints them as nut jobs that want to give loaded guns to toddlers, whilst certain groups accuse the NRA of secretly wanting to outlaw firearms ownership.

I've already made up my mind that I like the NRA, I'm just looking for feedback on whether or not joining for life is worthwhile compared to annual.

I know that if your willing to pay a few dollars more each year, compared to a life membership, you can get neat little goodies each time you re-up your membership each year. And from what I've seen, the NRA also sends you free bonus stuff like bumper stickers each time you extend your membership. Last time I had my dad renew my membership down at the grand american in sparta IL for $25 and I recieved 50 commemorative fiocci shotgun shells and two sets of bumper stickers. I know most of the goodies the NRA offers with their memberships are tacky, but they do have cool promotions once or twice a year.

Seeing that it takes at least twenty years for the life membership to start making subscription dues cheaper, at the yearly rate of $35, I was wondering if the benefits you get from life membership outweigh all those neat little NRA promos.

Thing is, I've been looking at this renewal paper with an offer for this neat looking knife since for a few months now and the line next to it that says I can go life for $470 more.

I'm thinking about saying hell with it and nabbing the knife and upping to life if the supreme court knocks down the DC gun ban in the Heller case this summer.

Anyone want to throw their two cents in, in regards to the goodies?

IllHunter
April 1, 2008, 03:55 PM
IF you think it's about "the goodies" you should re think it.

Border
April 1, 2008, 10:37 PM
I did receive some nice goodies prior to joining as a life member but they way I figure it now, not taking any freebies just leaves more money for them to fight for the cause!

Kingcreek
April 2, 2008, 02:56 PM
Life member and glad I did it.
several years ago they were raising rates to $500 but I could convert to a Life membership with 3 payments of $100 each. Now it is a similar deal for 5 bills now or 1K later.
see a trend here?
why not jump now? the mass mailings and such are not an issue.

peteinct
April 2, 2008, 05:41 PM
I just upgaded to life this year. I got a 500 dollar deal so it will pay off over time I suppose. My club requires that I be a member so why not? It is easier, less hassle, and you get a say ( a tiny one, one vote) in how your NRA is being run. What is not to like?

pete

VAshooter10
April 3, 2008, 05:06 PM
I signed up for a life membership in the NRA in 1963. It cost me $100.00 which was a lot of money for a young sailor back then. I was stationed on Midway Island so there wasn't a lot to spend money on anyway.

I think it was a pretty good deal when you look at how long I've been a member. Let's see....45 years divided into $100, that comes out to $2.22 a year. The younger you are when you get it the less it's going to cost you.

Now for you guy's that think I am a cheapskate, when I became more financialy able I moved up to Benifactor Life.

VAshooter

TEDDY
April 3, 2008, 10:35 PM
when I joined it was $3 a yr and $25 for life do the numbers.that was in 1939.
free life insurance,free gun insurance and a crew of fighters for OUR RIGHTS.and I try not to favor people that cant win. :uhoh:--:confused:-
:fire:--:banghead:--:D

Winchester 73
April 4, 2008, 02:11 AM
I upgraded to Life Member on the installment plan several months ago.
Now thinking of cashing out to get that nice leather jacket they're offering.
I really believe everyone of us should belong to the the NRA.Not perfect but what is?Without their efforts the past 25 years ,where would we be?
Every year I try to recruit at least one new member.
There are 4 million in the NRA's ranks and it is the most powerful force, along with the dreadful AARP ,on the Hill.
Double our numbers and we can roll back 75 years of Socialism a lot faster.

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