[Zundfolge]

figured it was a bit political so I put it here. I thought some of you guys might enjoy it (I was feeling a bit angry at lunch today, so I put this one together).

The image is a relatively uncompressed .jpg at 1280x1024


It should be obvious to those of you who know Oleg's work that I used one of his photos. :)

(Oleg, if you would rather people not mess with your images then please delete this one and I'll make sure I don't publicly release any other edits I've done of your work :uhoh: ).

click here (http://forums.beyondunreal.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=64609)

[Tropical Z]

I like it!

[Skunkabilly]

Where do I get one of those helmets anyway? :D

[Drjones]

Awesome!!!

[DontShootMe]

Aren't some of the UN peacekeeping force US Soldiers?

[Deepdiver]

Well Done!!

[gunsmith]

I've all ready started annoying libs on
world political forum
www.craigslist.org

[Azrael256]

One suggestion. I think you may want to say "color" instead of "colored." I'm still working on my coffee, so I can't tell you why, but it just doesn't sound right.

[Oleg Volk]

Looks fine to me. You might want to add your (c) mark somewhere so that your work doesn't end up being attributed to me...wouldn't be fair.

[rock jock]

So let get this right. Because the UN is a bad idea and a worse organization, because they promote socialism, because they pressure the US to conform to their one-world policies, you want to shoot peacekeepers from some 3rd-World country who barely make enough to eat through the head? Comparing the UN to the Nazis is ridiculous.

[Zundfolge]

So let get this right. Because the UN is a bad idea and a worse organization, because they promote socialism, because they pressure the US to conform to their one-world policies, you want to shoot peacekeepers from some 3rd-World country who barely make enough to eat through the head?
Uh ... the helmets are symbols. :rolleyes:

However, I see nothing wrong with killing enemy soldiers in a time a war ... and someday we may very well have some "peacekeepers from some 3rd-World country who barely make enough to eat" wearing blue helmets marching through our streets to "keep the peace" (and consficates our weapons).

Comparing the UN to the Nazis is ridiculous.
No, its a very accurate comparison.

Both the UN and the Nazi party are examples of Fascism

[roscoe]

someday we may very well have some "peacekeepers from some 3rd-World country who barely make enough to eat" wearing blue helmets marching through our streets to "keep the peace" (and consficates our weapons).

Uuuummmm - - riiiiiight. Those powerful peacekeepers with their threatening blue helmets. They are just out oppressing people all over the place, like Bosnia, Kosovo, Liberia, you name it.

I shudder just thinking about those blue helmeted thugs burning my American flags and copies of the Constitution, stomping on my apple pie, forcing us to buy bland unfinished Danish furniture and watch soccer.

They are just over the Canadian border in great blue-helmeted hordes, waiting for the signal to descend . . . guard your women!

[fallingblock]

Do you enjoy hyperbole, or the concept of a world government in which you have no say? or both?:D

[roscoe]

This always cracks me up. You people should get outside of our borders. You would realize - - America rules the world, not the other way around. Somebody, please let me know when I am being oppressed by the UN.

I have been all over the world, to dozens of countries on every continent except Antarctica, and I can assure you that nowhere is the concept of national sovereignty more powerful than in the US. One justice makes reference to concepts of international law and everyone gets their panties in a bunch. Like our legal concepts just sprang from the brow of Zeus.

Don't people realize that the the UN is basically there to serve our purposes? I mean, we provide the bulk of the funding and have a permanent veto. Once in a while a vote doesn't go our way. That's politics. But when it comes down to it, they turn to us not the other way around. And believe me, if there was ever an blowhard impotent group . . . they mostly just provide food aid and birth control in third world countries.

Just who do you envision wearing those blue helmets? The French? The Dutch? The Liberians? The UN couldn't even get it together to save the Bosnians. I think we are safe over here.

[Combat-wombat]

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[fallingblock]

"You people should get outside of our borders."
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Not that it matters, but I live at present in Australia...seven years in New Zealand before that, and the U.S. originally. I am a citizen of all three nations:)


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"I have been all over the world, to dozens of countries on every continent except Antarctica"
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Me too, Antarctica is just too durn cold!;)


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"Don't people realize that the the UN is basically there to serve our purposes? I mean, we provide the bulk of the funding and have a permanent veto."
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Ah, except that the vast majority of the membership does not see it that way, and many hate the U.S. with a passion which approaches religious zeal.
But concerning that permanent veto...that's a very good reason not to leave the U.N....they could vote to do just about anything then:eek:


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"if there was ever an blowhard impotent group . . . they mostly just provide food aid and birth control in third world countries."
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Roscoe, try getting some U.N. designated 'biosphere reserve' reclassified to anything else, even for conservation use.

It is the many international treaties entered into under the auspices of the U.N that currently threaten national sovereignty globally, not just the U.S..
The people who operate within the U.N. are the ultimate 'control freaks'.
For an example suitable for the theme of this board, take the current Chair of I.A.N.S.A.:

Rebecca Peters

She has devoted her life to removing firearms from society and has resolutely worked her way from law school through The Soros Foundation to her current post at the helm of I.A.N.S.A..

Why is that? Why does a 'do-good' zealot such as Becky head for the U.N.?

It is because the U.N. gives her a world forum with no recourse to national sovereignty or citizen participation to oppose her. All she has to do is get enough members and NGO's on board and there will be treaties outlawing the possession of firearms by any non-government-sponsored individual.

The U.S. has been able to derail the most onerous demands of I.A.N.S.A.
ONLY because Bush happened to be in the Whitehouse instead of Clinton.

Maybe you prefer to think the U.S. can continue to pull off such last minute 'saves' at the U.N. indefinitely, but I'd rather have a say in what is being decided about my future, in whatever country, and the U.N. is clearly a threat to national sovereignty. If that goes, so does our individual liberty.

As one who is widely-travelled, you will no doubt have observed that many people in many nations regard the U.S. as a 'bully' and the U.N. as the rightful 'world authority'.:uhoh:

I have in-laws in New Zealand who would be happy to see the U.S. reduced to a smoking hole by terrorists, and have openly said so.

These people want that 'world government', and the petty tyrants at the U.N. want to give it to them. ;)

It would be wiser to do what we can to defang the U.N. now, rather than wait for it to gain even more power and influence.

[faustulus]

I have no real affection for the U.N. but, could someone explain to me when they started constructing gas chambers?
I'm with Rock and Roscoe on this, as far as I know anyone can leave the U.N. at any time.

[fallingblock]

I believe the smart move would be for the U.S. to remain within the U.N. and use its influence to reduce the U.N. to something more akin to a world debating society than a world governmental body.

Just a little 'balancing act' to give us peons a country of our own.:)

[Coronach]

I believe the smart move would be for the U.S. to remain within the U.N. and use its influence to reduce the U.N. to something more akin to a world debating society than a world governmental body.Thats pretty much what we've done the past few years. I'm completely in favor. Use them when they'll work to our advantage, ignore them when they won't, and veto them if they decide to do something we don't like.

They're only really a threat if we 1. leave, and lose our veto in the Securoty Council or 2. allow them to do bad things (like Clinton would allow them to do).

Mike

[Minuteman]

http://www.getusout.org/index.htm

http://www.usasurvival.org/

fallingblock: thank you fallingblock for the explanation.

Minuteman

[rock jock]

Both the UN and the Nazi party are examples of Fascism
Sir, do you understand the definition of fascism? The UN has made a lot of blunders, but they don't go around the world using brutal force and executions and quashing political opposition to achieve their will. Instead, they appoint America-bashing wet noodle leaders who complain incessantly, criticize our foreign policy, and then beg us for money. If and when they actually make threats of violence against the U.S. for not towing the line, then I will use the Blue Helmet for target practice. As it stands, your poster comes across as the ranting of a paranoid lunatic fringe militia element.

[faustulus]

Fallingblock,
I didn't mean to suggest that the U.S. pull out of the U.N. (really I don't care) just that membership is voluntary.

[roscoe]

As it stands, your poster comes across as the ranting of a paranoid lunatic fringe militia element.

Exactly.

[Zundfolge]

Sir, do you understand the definition of fascism?

Fascism is a system of government whereby the means of production are privately owned, yet are under strict control of the government (which is why many call it "Socialism with the illusion of Capitalism").

The left have so distorted the meaning of Fascism that most think it just means a government that rules by brute force and racism. While fascist regimes do tend to rule with brute force, there is more to them then that.

In most every way, the ideals and goals that many ranking folk in the UN have put out on the table as their ultimate goals are pretty much cut from the socialist/fascist mold.

If and when they actually make threats of violence against the U.S. for not towing the line, then I will use the Blue Helmet for target practice.
I doubt the threats will be against the US government ... they will be threats of violence against the civilian population from the UN via a UN sympathetic (if not controlled) President and/or Congress.

As it stands, your poster comes across as the ranting of a paranoid lunatic fringe militia element.
Jeez ... nobody has a sense of humor any more :neener:

[roscoe]

I don't know about you, but I always get a big laugh out of the Nazis. Especially when they are being outsmarted by Col. Hogan and his merry men.

[Moparmike]

I see nothing, I hear nothing, I know nooo-thing!

Sshhuuulllllttttzzzz!!!!!!! Hoooogggaaannnn!!!!!! [Mmmmmph!]

If the UN wants a world government, they can copy the Constitution and cannot deviate from it before I give them any recognition.

[atek3]

The UN has no teeth right now because we have a president who is doing just fine stealing our freedoms without international help. However if we got a hardcore social democrat into office the UN conference on weapon disarmament would have received cheers from the white house. "See, US made assault weapons are causing problems world-wide, ergo regulating, registering, and confiscating firearms will help."

I mean have you read the "universal declaration of human rights"? its the biggest socialist rag and it is supposed to be the the world's bill of "rights"? I mean come on people. Any country that experiments with "unhealthy" levels of freedom is inviting a blue-helmet intervention to restore "order" and "democracy" aka socialism and more socialism.

atek3

[MicroBalrog]

Any country that experiments with "unhealthy" levels of freedom is inviting a blue-helmet intervention to restore "order" and "democracy" aka socialism and more socialism.

Did that ever actually happen?:confused:

[Edward429451]

Couple of us need to get our head out of the sand...


Nice work Zund.

[rock jock]

In most every way, the ideals and goals that many ranking folk in the UN have put out on the table as their ultimate goals are pretty much cut from the socialist/fascist mold.
Agreed. But there is a big difference between having a goal and actually implementing it. In the case of the Nazis, I would say that difference is about 50 million.

Jeez ... nobody has a sense of humor any more
Sorry, I didn't find it particulary funny. I would imagine the typical sheeple would find it more so.

[HBK]

If the Nazis were as portrayed in Hogan's heroes, WWII would have been much less bloody. I think the UN is as dangerous as we allow them to be.

[MJRW]

Oh, I get it. Let's skip any attempt at peaceful resolution....

[Edward429451]

Governmental organizations don't understand anything but violent resistance or billion $$ grants/bribes. If you don't speak in ultimatums to them, they wont take you seriously.

[MicroBalrog]

Governmental organizations don't understand anything but violent resistance or billion $$ grants/bribes. If you don't speak in ultimatums to them, they wont take you seriously.

Yeah, right. Just don't tell the Canadians.:cool: