Gun lube question


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Blarelli
March 1, 2008, 04:39 PM
Right now, I use hoppe's #9 oil, but my carry gun keeps running dry (p3at). Is there a lube that I can get that will penetrate the metal to make it a longer lasting lube?

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4thPointOfContact
March 1, 2008, 05:33 PM
I placed my firearms in a non-controlled environment for three years while I did a tour overseas. They survived three hot, humid summers and wet winters without a single blemish or bit of corrosion. There was no special preparation aside from a cleaning and lubricating with Eezox.

I like it becasue it doesn't have an unpleasant smell, and it dries to a slick, dry finish.

rcmodel
March 1, 2008, 05:55 PM
P3AT's like a good grease on the rails & locking surfaces & cam.

http://www.goldenloki.com/guns/keltec/care2.htm

rcmodel

Gun Slinger
March 1, 2008, 06:08 PM
Blarelli,

I have always been pleased with the performance of Mobil 1 Synthetic, especially the 20W50 (VTWIN), in every firearm that I have used it on.

I use it not for the fact that it is considerably cheaper than the 'gun specific' lubricants, but for the fact that it remains present longer without "burning off" after extensive firing/operation than the lighter "gun" oils and makes clean-up easier due it's detergency as well as offering superior lubricative qulaities as compared to the every other firearms lubricant that I have tried.

GS

JohnBT
March 1, 2008, 08:08 PM
I pocket carried a P-32 daily for many years using TW-25B. Put a little on, spread it around and wipe most of it off. Pocket lint will blow off and you only need to reapply it when you clean the gun.

www.mil-comm.com/weapons_lubricants.html

John

The Lone Haranguer
March 1, 2008, 08:51 PM
The Hoppes oil tends to evaporate or get cooked off easily. My favorite oil (unless and until something else comes along) is the Break-Free in the little bottles with the nozzle.

orionengnr
March 1, 2008, 09:19 PM
Another vote for Eezox. Hard to find, not cheap, but better than anything else I've come across in 40 years plus...

nwb01
March 1, 2008, 10:47 PM
I have had really good luck with FP10 made by shooters choice.

Menel
March 1, 2008, 11:20 PM
How long does it take to go dry?

Right now I am using Kleenbore, solvent/oil and Tetra gun grease. All the parts are still oily after 2 weeks. I rarely go 2 weeks without a range trip.

dewidmt
March 1, 2008, 11:39 PM
+1 Tetra gun grease.....has fluoropolymers that actually bond to the metal to reduce friction. If ya can't get that, a little graphite on yer slide rails will last longer than thin gun oil or grease.

Blarelli
March 2, 2008, 12:43 AM
Where does one find Eezox? I can't find it online, and have never seen it locally.

astark
March 2, 2008, 01:08 AM
A quick Goggle search shows many places it can be purchased, including eBay. The stuff is a lot cheaper than I would have expected and I may try it myself.

AEA
March 2, 2008, 01:15 AM
Lubriplate

LUPUS
March 2, 2008, 05:07 AM
I have always been pleased with the performance of Mobil 1 Synthetic

the fact that it remains present longer without "burning off" after extensive firing/operation

If I am planning extensive amount of shooting, I lube the critical contact surfaces with Mobil One.
When carrying a pistol, I prefer Würth's Dry Lube. It is also one of the most resistant lubricants to heat and cold.

Regards.

The Bushmaster
March 2, 2008, 09:44 AM
I hate this. Still need a "DELETE" button here...:D

The Bushmaster
March 2, 2008, 09:54 AM
Hoppe's dries up? Hoppe's burns off? Where do you guys get all these "invented" problems from? I've been using Hoppe's products for the last 47 years and have had no problems. And, I too, have had to leave my guns with my parents when I went to sea or was stationed over seas for extended periods of time and returned years later to find my guns in fine shape. And believe me. My parents never touched them while I was gone. Use automotive products on my guns? Automotive oils and greases are formulated for the Auto industry. Not for guns. I have a fair back ground with these oils and greases as I was a Master Marine/Industrial Diesel Mechanic for 45 of those years...

If Hoppe's is so bad...How come it's been around for so many years?

1911NM
March 2, 2008, 10:46 AM
George Fennel, who formulated FP10, now has a new product on the market, Weapon Shield. I asked for a free sample, and am really impressed with it. Shooting a 1911 in competition, I really need the gun to run for a couple hundred rounds fast, and with no burps. Weapon Shield is da' bomb. Now, my reloads on the other hand still need work (muttering about OAL and SWC)

smokingun45
March 2, 2008, 11:02 AM
Don't use grease, it makes a gun sticky in cold weather & is tough to remove when it is time to clean. I have used Breakfree LP (not CLP) for years & it is the best, IMO. Hard to find locally, but Midway sells it. It won't evaporate & protects parts like no other. I use it on every action type. YMMV

rcmodel
March 2, 2008, 12:13 PM
"Don't use Grease" on a P3AT is just plain bad advice.

I was in on the ground floor with the first generation P3AT, and I can assure you, some of them just won't run with CLP, or other light oil on the friction points.

As for "getting sticky" in cold weather?
I'm gonna take a wild axx guess here and say he probably carries his P3AT in a pocket close to his body.
As such, it won't get cold enough to make one bit of differance.

Here is some info on lubes from a test I did a couple of years ago.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=3948187&postcount=6

rcmodel

LUPUS
March 2, 2008, 12:25 PM
Don't use grease, it makes a gun sticky in cold weather & is tough to remove when it is time to clean

I share the same experience.So I never use any kind of grease during carry.

But, I have to admit that it is one the best ways to use a quality grease on the aluminium alloy frame rails, especially on the SIGs, to prevent the anodising from chipping. It serves pretty well during extensive shooting periods.

As for the automotive products, they serve pretty well as a lubricant even not better than the gun specific lubricants. But, they are not as effective as the gun spesific rust or corrosion protectants, especially for longer storage periods. Also they are not so much impervious to sweat and humidity.

Regards.

Rustynuts
March 2, 2008, 01:53 PM
Grease should be used on any moving contact surface. Oil just doesn't hold up and will migrate too easily. Notice how in cars, most tough high-pressure applications use grease? Where oil is used, it's either completely submerged, sprayed or pressurized with oil to keep the film going. Last time I checked, my guns don't have oil pumps!

I too like Tetra Gun Grease. Also use CLP and Eezox. Eezox smell like skunk piss to me! Not something I'd want to handle everyday. If so I'd probably use gloves and a respirator! Got to be some nasty stuff in the mix.

LUPUS
March 2, 2008, 02:26 PM
Grease should be used on any moving contact surface

In extreme cold weather, it really makes all the small parts sticky.
It also attracts all the dust and grid, even during shooting and carrying.
So, I do not prefer them on any part and enviroment, other than the rails and the range.

Oil just doesn't hold up and will migrate too easily

Würth's Dry Lube holds up and stays pretty well on the applied surfaces.

Last time I checked, my guns don't have oil pumps!


Thanks God since mine, too. It would have been so diffucult to build pistols that can be carried concealed and work reliably. :D.

Regards.

Fishman777
March 4, 2008, 09:37 AM
I like Prolix. It is Non-toxic, smells like citrus and it is very effective. When applied, it dries and leaves a layer of protection on the metal. Good stuff.

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