Best .22lr ammo to buy in bulk


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timfromohio
March 2, 2008, 08:45 AM
What is everybody's opinion on the best .22lr ammo to stock up on? Will be used primarily for 10/22. So many choices ... Just want for plinking/general purpose.

Thanks for opinions.

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NGIB
March 2, 2008, 08:48 AM
I use a lot of the Federal bulk pack from Wallyworld. Price recently went up a few bucks though...

takhtakaal
March 2, 2008, 08:49 AM
I go back and forth and buy Federal, Winchester, and Remington value packs, depending usually on what's cheapest. The worst case scenario is that I have one bulk pack from a bad run, and the rest are okay. Some swear by one manufacturer, others swear at them. My thought is this: buy it now for whatever it still costs, have it later to use and don't have to shell out that much extra. FWIW, ammo costs seem to be going up faster than the average COL.

goon
March 2, 2008, 08:53 AM
I've shot a lot of the Federal and it has worked fine out of most guns I've shot or own.
My dad's Rossi model 62 doesn't really like it much though.

If you're looking to hunt much, get something that isn't a HP. Tears up too much meat.

Dave Markowitz
March 2, 2008, 09:47 AM
I would first try several different kinds of ammo, see which one my rifle shoots most accurately, functions reliably with, then stock up on that. .22s can be finicky WRT to which ammo the function with (if semiautos) and may shoot certain ammo much better than others.

I gave up on cheap, bulk pack ammo. My stash consists of CCI Mini Mags and Subsonic HPs. I keep it in GI ammo cans.

Marlin 45 carbine
March 2, 2008, 09:52 AM
I haven't had any luck with PMC or Remington. Federal does OK but not the groups Winchester SuperX has but occasionally the Winchester has what seems a low-powered round.
if you can find bulk buy on CCI MiniMag they do fine. of course this is plinking ammo. for hunting and serious target shooting I pay more to get the good stuff.

wnycollector
March 2, 2008, 10:03 AM
Both my revolver and rifle (10/22) like the federal 550 round bricks at walmart.

22-rimfire
March 2, 2008, 10:12 AM
The consensus seems to be the Federal bulk pack and the cheapest place to buy them is Walmart even with the recent price increase. The Federal 510's tend to shoot a bit better for most and are sold in 50 round boxes. Remington golden bullet bulk packs have been getting better in the QA/QC area, but the price on them went up a lot more than Federal at Walmart. A year from now, people will say the prices today are cheap in comparison to the price then. Buy as you have money.

I know we aren't in a high inflation cycle currently, but the "buy now" on commodies was the general opinion back in the Jimmy Carter years when inflation was sky rocketing. Things have really been increasing in price in the last 3-months.

MrBorland
March 2, 2008, 10:44 AM
The bulk Federal 550 from WalMart seems to shoot from my guns ok. In none of my .22s is it the most accurate, but none of them seem to hate it, either. I have a bunch of it, and for general plinking I'd use it, but I generally shoot Federal 714 from Dick's. Generally, a bit more than the Federal 550, but, in my guns, much more accurate.

Shawnee
March 2, 2008, 10:44 AM
+1 for Winchester, especially for use in semi-autos.

Even the $9-per-box (500) Winchester "X-pert" 36gr. lead HP cycles my Browning Buckmark just fine. It's not target-grade but it isn't target-grade priced either.


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CajunBass
March 2, 2008, 11:28 AM
I've got about a dozen 22's. Trying to figure out what ammo each one likes, and then keep up with what goes with which gun would be a major hassle. So I've just settled on the Federal Bulk Pack from Wally World for everything. It's inexpensive and "good enough" for all of them.

Jeff F
March 2, 2008, 11:48 AM
I've gone over to the Federal bulk pack. I was shooting Winchester but had problems with it. the Federal seems to be a little more accurate then the Remington's in my rifles. CCI mini mags is my go to field ammo for hunting or killing pests.

Ala Dan
March 2, 2008, 11:58 AM
I shot a lot of the Federal "Champion" .22LR thru my Browning BuckMark on
Saturday (03-01-08); and did not have a single misfire~! :scrutiny: ;)

doubleh
March 2, 2008, 11:59 AM
I have had better luck with Remington Golden Bullets. Federal is not as good. more FTF's and not as accurate in what I am shooting now, and I just gave up on Winchester. Although it's not bulk, Winchester T-22 shoots good in every thing I've tried it in.

rangerruck
March 2, 2008, 12:24 PM
red box single pack american eagle, though made by federal, and can only be gotten in 1 box, is very accurate. Otherwise, Federal, then winchester, usually in that order. Feddy makes a few diff bulk pacs, and so does winny.

rangerruck
March 2, 2008, 12:26 PM
remington, by overwhelming majority, will be the loosest, worst crimped, worst runout, dirtiest, etc., etc.,.....

aka108
March 2, 2008, 12:36 PM
Recently bought a case of Eley Sport. Stuff is standard velocity. Seems to shoot pretty well, a flier once in awhile. Parent company is in England. The Sport is made in Mexico.

jpwilly
March 2, 2008, 12:37 PM
remington, by overwhelming majority, will be the loosest, worst crimped, worst runout, dirtiest, etc., etc.,.....

Especially the Rem Thunderbolt!! I affectionaltaly call it Dirtybolt! Will never use it. My bulk needs are Fed 550 packs!

Hiaboo
March 2, 2008, 01:04 PM
I honestly say 100% whatever your gun shoots the best of the cheap pickings and buy a bunch of those.. Oddly enough mine LOVES the 745 (wallyworld bulk) and shoots 1" with them, not bad at all! Otherwise w/ wolf or eley and the like it does 1/4" or so. I HATE dudbolts and Golden Bloops. Ugh. Oh, wincehster 22x whatever it is, does well for me too but?

Air,Land&Sea
March 2, 2008, 01:10 PM
So far, Aguila 38 or 40 gr. high velocity is it.

Savage Shooter
March 4, 2008, 01:34 AM
I'm a winchester man myself but my gun shoots Remington golden bullets best and there cheap 9.00 a for a box of 550. can you say run little squirrel run hahaha:evil:

Odnar
March 4, 2008, 02:07 AM
It's been said before and I'll repeat it all the way down here. Try a few different kinds. Get a few boxes or a bulk pack of each of the cheapo brands. Arrange a free afternoon at the range and bring a notebook.

Shoot mag after mag of every type, alternating brands now and then. Keep track of the brand and magazine of any misfires and which brands seem to shoot the best. If you have multiple magazines (and who doesn't?) be sure to shoot each brand out of all of them. Some brands misfire, some magazines don't feed well. Not only can you weed out bad ammo, you can weed out bad magazines. Yes, Ram-Line. I'm looking at you.

Maybe you'll be able to disqualify some of the brands for other reasons. For example, I can't stand the way Aguila SSS smells when fired. Once you find a brand that shoots reliably and is accurate, stock up... Save the rest of the ammo until you get a bolt action.

Caimlas
March 4, 2008, 02:47 AM
My favorite is Remington Game Load. 440 per pack, seems pretty clean and don't have too many failures compared to the other stuff. No idea on accuracy, though - good enough for plinking and pistols. :)

Mostly, it's what's cheap and works. That leaves Blazer straight out of the equation.

Average Joe
March 4, 2008, 03:50 AM
I use the Federal bulk packs at walmart.

Greek
March 4, 2008, 08:13 AM
Wal Mart Federal for me too.

offshorebear
March 4, 2008, 08:27 AM
All my .22s are either revolvers or bolts, so they arn't that picky when it comes to ammo. Thunderbolts FTF all the time. The Federal 550 pack seems to treat me well so thats what I buy in bulk. Of course CCI is the best for me when it comes to rimfire.

foghornl
March 4, 2008, 12:54 PM
Federal and their American Eagle brand work well for my guns..10/22, Marlin 99, MKII and Single-Six for cheap plinking ammo.

Had too many problems with Rem Dud-bolts...although I do have 2 of the plastic tubs from when Rem marketed the Thunderbolts as "A Bucket Of Bullets"...will hold 500 rounds.

For serious .22LR work, I prefer the CCI 'Stingers'.

doc2rn
March 4, 2008, 01:04 PM
Federal Bulk packs are cheaper, Winchester have better knock down power, Remmington are dirty, and Acquilla is getting too expensive to be competative.

Dobe
March 4, 2008, 01:11 PM
Wal Mart Federal Bulk. I just picked up 14 boxes last weekend. Anticipation for a new TC R-55. . . can hardly wait.

HM2PAC
March 4, 2008, 06:54 PM
Wally World Fed Bulk Packs.

Last summer I was paying $8 per pack.

I noted the price this weekend at $13.

arcticap
March 4, 2008, 07:09 PM
The Federal Bulk won't function well in all Ruger 10/22's, so try some in it first before you invest in too much of it.
One of the favorites for the 10/22 are Winchester Dynapoints, especially if you can find them at a Walmart or elsewhere for a good price. Usually they cost about $15 for a 500 bulk pack, but generally the prices have gone higher everywhere else. :)

jonboynumba1
March 4, 2008, 07:35 PM
As in all things it depends on what you want it to do. I shoot a LOT of rimfire and shoot matches some...hunt and pest control some. I've owned customized rugers stock rugers (10/22's) remington speedmasters, marlin and Zastava 99 (remington mod 5/ Charles Daly 99 -all the same rifle) I've shot quite a few friends CZ's that also shoot matches and plink a LOT. People at the club compete with everything from $69 marlins to over a grand Anchutz (sp?) with CZ making up the middleground. You can get a gem or a mut anywhere...some ,more likely to be shooters than others. Some shoot nearly anything with great precision but will put some into less that 1/2" at 50 yards all day. You have to shoot it al and find what yours likes and then see what it's best used for (target,hunting cassual plinking ect) But here are some things I've noticed.

Federal bulk pack...on a rare occassion you might get a bad run that doesn't do well in semi autos but in bolts actions and revolvers I've NEVER had an issue...actually I've never had a semi-auto iossue wither but have had friends say they got a bad box before (usually at the same time from walmart...it does happen) But I've had more problems from remington bulkpack than all other rimfire ammo combined. Federal shoots VERY close to POI in almost all riofles with CCI Mini-mags. If your guns like CCI mini-mags they will likely lshoot federal bulk pack with very similar results. I consider mini-mags a great all around hunting round but when I've been down on my luck (years back) all I had waqs my storage federal and I never lost a squirrel or rabit for it. It's also way cheaper than CCI to stock....you should have at least 4-6 bricks MINAMAL put back IMHO (you can't reload it and it only gets more expensive over time...though the metals market is so high right now (and the dollar so low) I don't know if that will be the case right now...but I doubt it will get cheaper anytime soon so stock up!

CCI Mini-Mag- Most guns shoot this well...some shoot it amazingly well. I've seen it be "decent" in many Ruger semi-autos and group around an inch...those are the ones that usually like Federal Automatch Aguilara match (sp?) or Blazer 40gr solids better. It always functions well in all semis and is a tad hotter than bulckpack ammo...mostly it's just more consistent and clean (not being bulk packed and dinged up)

Federal American Eagle- it looks like federal bulkpack in 50rd boxes inside a brick box. Yet oddly it usually shoots a little better in most rifles and seems more consistent like minimags. On sale it can be a great economy match/plinker round.

Blazer 40gr solids- This is without a doubt some of the best "affordable" match grade ammo out there...it's not billed that way but it shoots extremely well in most CZ and other quallity bolt actions. Often it's mediocre in 10/22's but always worth trying out in any rimfire. Some pistols (especially Ruger single sixes) really like it as well. It will shoot right alongside the $5-6 a box stuff in my remington mod 5 and several buds CZ's Very good budget target round!

Aguilla match ammo (I've shot some of the various types...best I can recall it comes in silver and gold and match and match extra versions. One will generaly bu just sub HV speeds and one will be subsonic speeds (I think the match extra best I can recall) It used to be a lot cheaper (what hasn't gone up in ammo) some of this stuff will outshoot anything in certain rifles and in some it seems mediocre....usually it's good shooting stuff but your rifle may preffer one or another...best to order a few boxes rather than bricks and try it out. Lately it hasn't seemed a great value.

Winchester super-X match completely unimpressed....it shoots well in some rifles but had much different POI in my mod 5 and in it and several CZ's was not as good as wolf or blazer solids. I think winchester just wanted to fill the $6 a box niche more than they wanted a great match round...waste of money in all my guns.

Wolf- There's a couple versions but the cheaper match is what a lot of folks I know shoot matches with...or do when they can find it. Supply has been spotty at best over the last few years at wholesale and retail levels. In some rifles it is unbeatable...it smells funky though and I don't care for it as blazer will shoot better in mine and as good in most way cheaper.

Remington thunderbolts- In many rifles these are not really accurate...they can be but don't seem as consistent as other bulkpack ammo like fEDERAL EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE BOX/BRICK PACKED. However I have seen them do great work in some guns...my SA ruger LOVES them!! If they are on sale that make a great plinker...also if you like to bust rocks at 100 yards they seem to have more wallop than most downrange being a full 40 grains and solids. If they are on sale for a good price I buy them...but I wouldn't shoot a match with em.

Remington Subsonic- These are HP 40gr and look like thunderbolts with a HP but seem WAY more consistent...they used to be way cheaper but they finaly jumped up the wholesale/retail price to about what thunderbolts go for (sometimes a bit more a brick) They usually function in speedmasters and Ruger 10/22's while being a bit quieter around the yard and at 20-35 yards will bust a bunny or squirrel...though it may be more like being hit with a blunt at long ranges...cheaper than CCI CB-longs though...another great garden/yard round for pests. One thing I've noticed is in many bolt actions these are MATCH GRADE accurate. It's one of the best 3 rounds in my mod 5 and at the club they use them in 4H rimfire shoots and have also gotten great accuracy out of them. It can be a great budget target round and is worth trying out in your gun.

CCI other stuff -stingers...halfway to magnum they will have a higher POI by about 1 1/2" at 100 yards and about 5/8" at 50 yards in most guns. Can be handy in stretching out the stopping power...also does blow up varmints great inside 50 yards. Does not group really great for me in anything I've ever owned though...usually around 1" best at 50 yards rifle if that. But it's a favorite of many as it has a lot of "umph" up close...if you had to protect yourself from a dog with a .22 it would be right up there with HV 40gr solids fo me (I know first and second hand it can stop things bigger than a breadbox) but it's certainly not ideal. I don't stock much...if I owned a 10/22 (and when I did) I kept a 25 rounder full of it around the house though I usually swapped to CCI CB longs for yard/garden use. If you had coyotes or foxes hitting up your chickens that or mini mags would be a good choice though if you'r zeroed for em (stingers) or know the hold difference at greater ranges. The POI shift and lack of precission is why I don't use em now though. velocitors seem a lot like mini-mags in performance but I've seen some pistols REALLY like them. So worth a try...but maybe no the money unless your gun is like that with them.

Just a few observations...all guns are different....your mileage may varry and all that.

kart racer
March 4, 2008, 10:02 PM
Cci blazer shoots the best in all of my 22's of the cheaper brands.

MD_Willington
March 4, 2008, 10:22 PM
Blazer.. it's made locally, my friends work for ATK so I try to get the local brand.

Chester32141
March 4, 2008, 11:27 PM
Where's the best price online for bulk .22lr ...

Chester

LiquidTension
March 4, 2008, 11:35 PM
I like the Federal bulk pack. It's about $12/550. It's accurate and stays subsonic out of a 5.5" barrel. More importantly, it runs flawlessly. Remington bulk pack and Wolf target both give me problems. I really hope it works well in my soon to arrive GSG-5.

I also really like the CCI Minimags. I used to have problems with my MkII with anything else. Apparently the bad juju has fixed itself :uhoh:

cash--
March 5, 2008, 08:59 AM
joynumba1 Thanks, that is some serious detail, I can tell you've spent alot of time trying out lots of ammo. I can attest to the spotty availablity of that wolf m/t i cant find it anywhere.

QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW
March 5, 2008, 10:17 AM
federal bulk pack at wally world.

thunderbolts FTE almost every round in my marlin M60. the federal i can shoot 1-2K rounds in one sitting with no problems.

cornman
March 5, 2008, 11:36 AM
American eagle. It can be bought in a 400 brick

DMK
March 5, 2008, 01:58 PM
Another vote for Federal. I love the 510 Champion. Absolutely the best of the cheap stuff.

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