10mm recoil?


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trbon8r
March 2, 2008, 10:00 AM
The coming reintroduction of both the Colt Delta Elite and the Fortis 10mm pistol has me considering trying out a 10mm pistol.

What is the recoil like on a 10mm pistol? With full power loads, is it "snappy" like its shorter cousin the .40 S&W? What about muzzle flip?

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Ford
March 2, 2008, 10:25 AM
I have a 6" longslide and the recoil is easily manageable. I shoot it about as well as 5" .45

wally
March 2, 2008, 10:43 AM
It's recoil is more than .45ACP from the same gun, but I don't find it to be an issue. What I dislike is 10mm guns seem to launch the brass into never-never land. Where I shoot, doing good to find half of it, usually find 99% of my .45ACP brass.

--wally.

fchavis
March 2, 2008, 10:49 AM
I really like 10mm recoil. It is a little snappy like the .40 s&w but also has the push of a .45 acp. Over all it makes for a very balanced recoil and is back on target about as fast at a 9mm. ymmv of course, I've never fired 10mm from a 1911.

MrAnteater
March 2, 2008, 11:25 AM
Glock 20 here. The recoil is slightly more that a 5" 1911 .45. Thats the best way I can describe it.

NWdude83
March 2, 2008, 02:37 PM
I borrowed my dad's 10mm Kimber Stainless Target II 1911 and took it shooting yesterday. I shot 150rds of 200gr ammo through it. It has a little more recoil than a .45ACP, but not too much. Almost like shooting a .357mag of similar size. I can see women and little boys not being able to handle the recoil. But an average man should have no problem.

Harley Quinn
March 2, 2008, 02:52 PM
Glock 20 here. The recoil is slightly more that a 5" 1911 .45. Thats the best way I can describe it.

It has to do with the weight of the pistol I would think. I believe the 10 mm is an easy shooter in comparison to the revolvers that are in the same class.

I shoot the 10mm in a Mdl 21 Glock with a 10mm barrel from "Lone Wolf" it is a 6"... I like it.

The number of rounds you shot out of the "Kimber" would start to be felt, right in the palm of the hand, I would think.

I usually practice with the 10mm and not to many rounds, just to make sure it is shooting well. My main practice shooter is a 17L in 9mm (very accurate) of late because it is quite a bit more reasonable to my pocket book. Then I have a 22 cal slide I put on it also and it is very reasonable...
:)

NWdude83
March 2, 2008, 03:12 PM
Yes, I couldn't see myself shooting many more rounds. 100-150rds is a good number for 10mm.

trbon8r
March 2, 2008, 03:51 PM
Thanks for the info guys. I probably should have mentioned that I shoot a lot of .45 ACP out of 1911 type guns, so that is my baseline for recoil. I grew up shooting a .357 Magnum, and also own a Model 29 .44 Magnum, so I'm not particularly shy of recoil. I was just wondering how "usable" the 10mm is compared to other calibers in terms getting the gun back on target for follow up shots, and overall use for defensive work, and maybe some IDPA shooting. :)

Harley Quinn
March 2, 2008, 04:09 PM
The FBI did a lot of testing with various loads and that is why the 40 S&W cal is the main line of defense for LEO.
The 10mm is a good round for some and for others, it is a no no.

The thing about it, most will say who like it, the capacity and minimal recoil, it is great. Others don't seem to like it (hunting).

:)

mpmarty
March 4, 2008, 01:03 AM
All depends on the vehicle you launch with. In my Witness full size all steel (read heavy) the 10mm has far less recoil than my target loads in my 1911 45acp (200gr cast semi wad cutters with 5.0 grains of Red Dot for around 900fps). In my compact Witness the same 10mm rounds seem to kick more than the 45 baseline but not nearly as bad as my old Glock 23 did with factory .40 S&W ammo. That darn model 23 actually hurt to shoot with SD loads and when the slide jammed off the rails I was glad to part company from it.:evil:

Chuhhuniban
March 4, 2008, 01:12 AM
I have and shoot M1911s in .45 ACP and 10 mm almost exclusively (6 of the former, 3 of the latter). The 10 mm is more accurate at the longer distances than the .45 ACP, but both are just fine at ranges under 60-feet (where I commonly shoot). The recoil from the 10 mm PD ammunition (generally Winchester SXTs) and the .45 ACP (either the same Winchester or Remington Golden Sabers) is not sufficiently different that I can't go back and forth in one range trip. The 10 is a little sharper (quicker), but the .45 actually pushes off the point of aim farther. I reload 10 mm to a softer range load (about 900 fps with 180 gr FP jacketed slugs) and then I really can't tell any difference relative to Wally World white box .45s. My DEs are tricked per Tuner (20-pound recoil springs, 25-pound mainsprings and EGW firing pin stops with tiny little radii on them); my .45s are stock with 16-pound recoil springs. All have had the attention of a good gunsmith to smooth out triggers and cycling. I've got my order in for one of the new DEs can't wait! :)

jeff-10
March 4, 2008, 01:15 AM
The ammo you shoot through it will make a big difference. There is ammo out there equal to a 40S&W running all the way up to a 41 Magnum.

davepool
March 4, 2008, 01:28 AM
If you shoot a .357 and .44 the recoil won't be hard to handle. I have a Glock G20 with a KKM 6" barrel and a Dan Wesson RZ 10 1911, i'm a little more accurate with the DW during rapid fire, but i think that is due to trigger and weight differences between the two rather than recoil, felt recoil is a little snappier than a .45 but that also depends on the ammo you use. I use DoubleTap ammo that's loaded to the full potential of this caliber, the factory ammo such as Hornady and Federal are more of an FBI light loading with similar ballistics to the .40SW. It's taken a lot of practise(and some adjustments to my grip) to get off accurate, rapid follow up shots using the hotter ammo from DoubleTap, and even after 500+ rounds of practise i'm still better with my .45's during rapid fire....and for those who keep saying the 10mm is dying ... NEENER NEENER...WRONG

Zak Smith
March 4, 2008, 01:33 AM
Comparing a Glock 20 to 21, I thought the 20 had a sharper but shorter recoil impulse but recoiled "flatter." YMMV.

10X
March 4, 2008, 01:47 AM
In a 1911 the 10mm bucks about one-third to one - half more than a 45 ACP 230 gr ball. It all depends upon how hot the 10mm ammo is.

Empties for a 45 acp go 4-6 feet away on a properly adjusted gun. The 10 mm empties fly 25 feet or more. It is difficult to find the 10 mm empties.

The 45 ACP is definitely more accurate than the 10 mm. The 10 mm has a lot more blast.

CZF
March 4, 2008, 02:07 AM
I've shot 9mm, 40 and 45 Glocks, but no 10mm.

I wonder if the the 10mm has more felt recoil than the G22 .40?
Hated they way it stung my trigger finger and the harsh recoil
with the then new .40 caliber 180 grain Pro Load ammo.

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