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SuperNaut
March 4, 2008, 01:10 PM
How many of you guys carry more than just the mag in the gun; and what is your reasoning?

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DirksterG30
March 4, 2008, 02:02 PM
For my single-stack guns (MK9 & P3AT) I carry 2 spare mags. For my double-stack CZ P-01, I carry 1 spare mag.

My reasoning is 2-fold:
First, I'd rather have the spare ammo in the event that I need it. If I don't need it, fine. If I do, and I don't have it, I'm in a world of hurt.

Second, magazines are the weak link of autoloaders. It's better to have a spare in case the one in the gun malfunctions.

Guitargod1985
March 4, 2008, 02:04 PM
I'm somewhere in between the two poll options. While I usually carry more than just the magazine i the gun, it isn't exactly enough for a war zone. With revolvers I carry two speed loaders. If I am carrying an autoloader,
i will either carry one extra magazine or two, depending on the size and concealability of the mag. For example, my .380 mags are significantly smaller than the mags for my other primary carry gun. As a result I usually carry two spare mags for the .380 but only one for my Ruger P90 (.45 ACP). This also typically means that I carry more ammunition for weaker cartridges than for stronger ones, should the need arise to use multiple mags.

The way someone else at THR put it, "if your day is going bad enough where you have to draw your gun, it's not a stretch that you're having a bad enough day to have to use more than one magazine." Er... something to that effect.

Statistically improbable? Yes. But then so is having to draw your gun in the first place.

It's just like the fire extinguisher. It isn't likely that I'll need it, but since I have one I might as well have the biggest one I can get. :D

SuperNaut
March 4, 2008, 02:24 PM
I've been going back and forth between the two in my head. I lean towards the statistical improbability of needing more rounds, plus I'm lazy.

Landric
March 4, 2008, 02:52 PM
There is not really an option on the poll that fits me. Generally speaking I carry either a spare magazine for my primary weapon or a backup gun, but not usually both. Interestingly enough, I often find myself carrying spare ammunition for my backup gun, a S&W J-frame, because speed strips are easier to carry/conceal than double stack magazines.

SuperNaut
March 4, 2008, 03:05 PM
There is not really an option on the poll that fits me. Generally speaking I carry either a spare magazine for my primary weapon or a backup gun, but not usually both.

That's close enough to option one IMHO.

jlbraun
March 4, 2008, 03:10 PM
If I were carrying a 1911, I would have a spare magazine. As I carry a 14rd gun, I have my spare already in the gun.

And as my P01 has *never* failed in 2600 rounds, I feel that carrying an extra magazine in the event of a malf is unnecessary.

JDGray
March 4, 2008, 03:14 PM
If 14rds of 40cal can't save me, another mag full isn't either:)

dtalley
March 4, 2008, 03:15 PM
KelTec P3AT, I carry one extra mag. with me usually.. It is just kind of like a security blank type of thing with me to have it.

Cowboybootnut
March 4, 2008, 03:53 PM
Bersa Thunder 9 UC 14 rds + one-13 rd extra mag.

1911NM
March 4, 2008, 04:42 PM
Carry a single stack and one spare.

hobgob
March 4, 2008, 04:47 PM
I agree with dirkster on this one, my CHL is still in the process of being approved, but i plan on carrying at least one extra mag for my px4, even tho each mag holds 17.

Mulliganpaintdee
March 4, 2008, 05:22 PM
I only need to carry one 17 round magazine I think. If 17+1 rounds don't do me any good than I doubt another mag would make much of a difference, unless ofcourse the zombies are walking around again

Hawaiian
March 4, 2008, 10:33 PM
A double stack mag is enough for me. Single stack, I ofter carry one extra.

jimbob86
March 4, 2008, 10:43 PM
1 extra, as eight is generally enough for 1 fight. The extra is in case the bad guys' buddies get there before the cops do.

Mad Magyar
March 4, 2008, 11:17 PM
If you have exhausted your pistol in halting a life-threat, have not extinguished the situation; have not secured cover; and the "calvary" haven't arrived: you are in "DEEP S#$T"....
You ever get hauled into court armed to teeth, a.k.a "Rambo", you figure out the rest.....:)
Oh, yeah, what if your mag......Please, enough already with the "what if" scenarios....One should know his carry pistol, his capabilities under stress to the letter.....:mad:
It might be that I just don't "get it"...The way I dress most of the year really isn't conducive to extra gear...Concealment for a handgun is full time for me, let alone adding a mag or two....

sdj
March 4, 2008, 11:31 PM
Just the firearm (G32; high cap (13) round magazine, no spares).
14 rounds with the chamber topped up.
14 rounds of .357sig: for me, this is enough.

shadowalker
March 5, 2008, 12:38 AM
On the comment of multiple hits, once the conditions of deadly force have been met you aren't under obligation to stop shooting until the threat is over, whether that is 0, 1, or 15 rounds fired.

I carry a total of 3 magazines, for several reasons I view not having a spare magazine the same as not having a spare tire. I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

#1 There is absolutely no guarantee 8 or even 13 rounds will get the job done, there is no guarantee there will be only one attacker, that you will get hits, that those hits will be effective. Under stress the ability to shoot accurately deteriorates.

#2 The magazine is most likely going to be the cause of a malfunction, magazines can fail with very little warning. I've seen factory Glock magazines crack in half at the range, magazine springs fail and render the firearm inoperable.

#3 The ability to reload and have a fully charged weapon is a great advantage, I'd rather have 13+1 than 7 in the magazine if their is a break in the action.

#4 Balances the weight of the firearm, better for the body and feels more comfortable.

Mandirigma
March 5, 2008, 01:06 AM
With my 1911's I carry 2 spare mags, with my Glock's just one.

My reasoning is simple, run dry once, you'll never want to be in that position again.

I do also keep spare mags and rounds for each in my trucks, as I am never sure which one I'll be carrying.

DWARREN123
March 5, 2008, 01:44 AM
I carry 2 back up mags just because I want to!

Valkman
March 5, 2008, 02:18 AM
With my Kimber CDP I carry one extra mag but if I ever start carrying my XD45 Compact I'll probably carry 2 13rd spare mags to balance the weight.

Northalius
March 5, 2008, 02:45 AM
Please, enough already with the "what if" scenarios....One should know his carry pistol, his capabilities under stress to the letter.....
It might be that I just don't "get it"...The way I dress most of the year really isn't conducive to extra gear...Concealment for a handgun is full time for me, let alone adding a mag or two....

You sound like you're attempting to justify not carrying extra mags by emotion, not logic. You seem to be forced (?) in not being able to carry more, so you're trying to tell yourself "I don't need any more..." Not good way to look at it, imo.

Secondly, no one knows how they'll act under stress, until that stress happens; you can imagine all you want (which actually helps, but is still not the real thing), but until it happens, you don't *KNOW* how you're going to act, nor how accurate you'll be. It's just a fact of life.

Therefore, I say, if you can do it, then bring at least one extra magazine with you, no matter how much your current mag holds inside the gun. I'd suggest bringing 2, if possible. But then again, I'd just take one extra mag, and then save room for a back up gun (like a sub compact) in my pocket or ankle.

Glocks are nice for hi-cap (high capacity) magazines. You can have 15 rounds (+1 in chamber) in a Glock 19 (9mm), or 17 rounds in the magazine (+1 in chamber) in a Glock 17 (9mm). Or, if you really need hi-cap backup, you can buy the 33 round magazines and put them in any Glock 9mm model! ;)

I am personally getting a Glock 20 in 10mm caliber. It holds 15 in each magazine, and 1 in chamber. I'll also have a backup 15 round magazine, and when I get the chance, I'll have a Glock 29 (also 10mm, but sub compact - smaller) for my back up gun, most likely hidden in my other pocket.

It's always best to prepare for bad scenarios. The ones that die in bad scenarios, are the ones that went by statistics (how crappy those are to listen to...) and thus didn't prepare beforehand; they didn't think it'd happen to them, but when it did, it was too late... and now they're not alive to all tell us how dumb it was for them not to prepare for the worst in the first place.

If only those that died could speak from the grave... then many more people'd learn not to listen to stupid "it's rare" statistics. When it's happening to you, I bet you're not going to be sitting there saying "But, how can this be! It's so rare! Why me?!" . . . Hey, it has to happen to someone, right?

"A prudent person foresees the danger ahead and takes precautions; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3

RCR29
March 5, 2008, 02:50 AM
Ammunition feeding devices are generally the weakest link in any firearm, and are certainly capable of going down at the most inopportune time. It seems prudent to act accordingly and carry at least one spare magazine.

Big Boomer
March 5, 2008, 03:12 AM
For the everyday at work carry spare mags (dress is business):

1911's: 2 10rd, 1 8rd
XD: 1 13rd

For the I am going into possibly shady area's:

1911's: 2 10rd, 3 8rd
XD: 6 13 rd

and yes it all fits on the belt just nicely and conceals nicely under a dress shirt.

and this is not counting the days that I carry my backup, seems to be less and less these days with the changeover to more ammo for the primary.

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EdLaver
March 5, 2008, 03:16 AM
I carry the mag in my gun and two spares with a box of ammo in the truck. Not being paranoid, just being prepared.

The Lone Haranguer
March 5, 2008, 03:23 AM
Neither of the choices quite fit, but I always carry one reload.

possum
March 5, 2008, 06:21 AM
i carry a miniimum of one extra mag more times than not i carry 2 mags extra

Mad Magyar
March 5, 2008, 08:12 AM
For the everyday at work carry spare mags (dress is business):

1911's: 2 10rd, 1 8rd
XD: 1 13rd

For the I am going into possibly shady area's:

1911's: 2 10rd, 3 8rd
XD: 6 13 rd

and yes it all fits on the belt just nicely and conceals nicely under a dress shirt.

and this is not counting the days that I carry my backup, seems to be less and less these days with the changeover to more ammo for the primary.



I'm wiping off my coffee.....That pic is priceless....:D
Whether you are serious or "tongue in cheek"; you made my day....

Big Boomer
March 5, 2008, 10:28 AM
Whether you are serious or "tongue in cheek"; you made my day....


I usually go light, but there are those days, and I am sure you know them, that before you go out, you think, hmmm, I wonder how much crap I can carry around and still conceal.

I think I've been up 50+ lbs before! I think of it as a ccw workout! :neener:

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