[Thrash1982]

Hey guys, I was wondering if anybody knows where I can find a list of places that are off-limits for carry in Indiana. I have searched through the Indiana state law as thoroughly as I can but can’t find anything. I know that schools, government buildings, and casinos are a no-no but I’m sure there are others. Probably missed something when looking around so some help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys!

[MLH]

www.packing.org

[Kcustom45]

You forgot about airports past the metal detectors. Although now I don't know if I would even take my gun into the airport.

Thankfully I am not around there very often.

*Edited to add that you can carry TO a school as long as you are only dropping someone off or picking them up.*

[Thrash1982]

Ah yes, forgot about Packing.org. Found a couple more places I'd forgot about. Though of something else though. What about state and local parks? I remember reading that national parks are off limits but what about state and locals?

BTW, Thanks for the replys so far.

[cordex]

Not sure about state, but would think you'd be okay there.

Local parks are subject to local ordinances.

Plainfield in Hendricks county says parks are off limits ($100 fine for first offense, $200 for each offense thereafter). Not sure about anyone else.

[dance varmint]

Hopefully the resident pettifogger can clear this up, but only certain govt building are off limits. There is nothing in the law saying a permit is not valid in parks, but state parks have rules against loaded firearms. I don't know what legal basis there is for aribitrary and capricious bans like that.

[suijurisfreeman]

Indiana's Bill of Rights, Article I, Section 32: "The people shall have a right to bear arms, for the defense of themselves and the State."

I don't see any lawful authority delegated to the Indiana Legislature to regulate the RKBA, if you're going onto private property, that's a different matter, the owner has the right to say whether or not you can carry on their private property. Here in Elkhart, Indiana I see a sign on the courthouse door stating, "Weapons prohibited", however since Indiana's Bill of Rights doesn't delegate lawful authority to the legislature to regulate the bearing of arms, it would seem self-evident to me that sign would in fact be unconstitutional!

Jerry Gee, Sheriff of Monroe County, Kentucky admitted to me that's why the sign on the Monroe County Courthouse states, "Concealed Weapoons Prohibited" instead of "Weapons Prohibited". Kentucky's Bill of Rights, Section 1, Number 7 states, "The right to bear arms in defense of themselves and of the State, subject to the power of the General Assembly to enact laws to prevent persons from carrying concealed weapons." Here the people delegated lawful authority to their General Assembly to regulate the carrying of concealed weapons, therefore it's constitutional!

Again quoting the Texas Supreme Court in Cockrum v. State, "The right of a citizen to bear arms, in the lawful defense of himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it from the State government, but directly from the sovereign convention of the people that framed the State government. It is one of the 'high powers' delegated driectly to the citizen, and 'is excpted out of the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed to infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of the law-making power."

Earlier this spring, while at said courthouse I spoke at length with one of the Elkhart Sheriff's deptuties, his name was Robert. As I was walking out I noticed that 'someone' walked right past the 'metal detector', I being the nosey one that I am walked back into the courthouse and asked Robert how it was that 'someone' was able to walk into the courthouse without passing through the metal detector. He said, 'oh he's a lawyer!" I replied, but the sign says everyone must pass through the metal detector!"
He said, "I know, but that doesn't apply to 'certain people' around here!" I spent something like the next two hours discussing this and the 'Weapons Prohibited' sign with Robert. He's fully aware of the unconstitutionality of most 'laws' and regulations, but he's got his job to perform, so what's a man to do?

[suijurisfreeman]

Earlier when I was in the Courts Clerk's office, I noticed a sign which read, "valid ID required to file documents pro se with the court" . Just one problem with that 'court policy' though, Indiana's Bill of Rights, Article I, Section 12 states: "All courts shall be open; and every person , for injury done to him in her person, property, or reputation, shall have remedy by due course of law. Justice shall be administered freely, and without purchase; completely and without denial ; speedily, and without delay."

I asked one of the clerk's, by whose authority this sign was posted? She checked with her supervisor and told me that 'the judge' had that sign posted. Humm? :confused: Does a judge's discission over ride the Bill of Rights? :confused: Which states, without denial! I also asked the clerk exactly what constituted 'Valid ID', she said only State issued driver's license or State issued ID card. I said, let me see if I've got this straight now, if I come in here to file legal documents with this court and I don't have a State issued 'driver's license' or State issued 'ID card' you won't accept my legal documents? She said, that's correct! Sounds like I need to serve the Court Clerk Constructive Notice that the judge is in fact violating Indiana's Bill of Rights, Article I, Section 12! Either the Bill of Rights and/or Constitution mean something or they're not worth the paper their written on! :banghead:

I also asked the clerk, what about the Amish, they don't have 'Valid ID, she said well we'd make an exception for the Amish! that's arbitrary enforecement of the law! But then again, it's not a law, merely the judge's dicission to have the sign posted! But nevertheless unconstitutional!

[El Tejon]

Hi, Thrash, do you mean by state statute, trespassing laws, or contempt of court?