Kahr Owners Poll


March 5, 2008, 05:18 PM
What kind of Kahr do you have and how do you like it?

Just Kahrs please, no Auto Ordanance guns.

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March 5, 2008, 05:31 PM
I own a P40 and I regulary CC it. It has been nothing but reliable with hollowpoint or fmj ammo. Recoil can be a little stiff after 50 or so rounds.

March 5, 2008, 05:33 PM
Crap double post. sorry

March 5, 2008, 05:38 PM
I own a kahr cw9 shots really well, and is extremly easy to conceal. Holds 7+1 9mm rounds and has not failed to fire or failed to feed ever. I have around 300rds so far. I have heard some issues about kahrs within the first 200rds break in period. The mechanics are really tight making a necessary 200rd break in, as it says in the owner manual. It is an extremly accurate, reliable and so easy to carry, and the CW9 is much cheaper then the other kahrs.


March 5, 2008, 05:41 PM
Stainless kahr K9 owner here. Reliable enough for me to give it to my dad for HD. Unfortunately, a bad experience recently with their Customer Service means that I will never buy another or ever recommend them to anyone again.

March 5, 2008, 05:43 PM
My CW9 had infant mortality issues but has been 100% since Kahr fixed it.

PM40 is my most frequently carried piece.


El Tejon
March 5, 2008, 05:46 PM
Carry Kahr P9 as a bug. No issues. Weapon has been flawless even in positions of duress (where I am likely to have to use it). Own 3 of them, no trouble with any of them.

March 5, 2008, 05:53 PM
As of this afternoon, 914 rounds through my PM9 and not one problem.

March 5, 2008, 06:01 PM
mk9 & love it

just under 500 rounds so far and zero problems whatsoever.

It loves the +P ammo. Num num!



March 5, 2008, 06:05 PM
I have an E9, PM40, and P45 and all are reliable and accurate...

March 5, 2008, 06:30 PM
PM9 with about 600rds through it, its been flawless. Its very accurate, the trigger has gone from great to awsome with use, and shoots +P really well. Will definately consider kahr for future purchases.

March 5, 2008, 06:54 PM
Had a K40. 100% reliable, great carry profile, accurate. The only reasons I sold it was that after I got my first Gov't model 1911, I decided i wanted my carry to be the same caliber and format. I was also consolidating to fewer calibers in my collection - no longer own any .40's

Anyway, I couldn't keep the Kahr and get another 1911 so off it went. Great gun. My decision to get rid of it had nothing to do with its quality and I highly recommend them to those who they "fit".

Ala Dan
March 5, 2008, 07:06 PM
9m/m polymer frame and its been reliable as death and taxes~! :D

March 5, 2008, 07:13 PM
Kahr PM9 x 2
both have been reliable

Dollar An Hour
March 5, 2008, 07:57 PM
Love my PM9, very fun to shoot, and threatening my J-Frame's supremacy for EDC. :)

March 5, 2008, 08:31 PM
PM9 is fairly new, but just ran 300 flawless rounds through it. CW40 has been sent back once and stiffer guide rod spring seems to have taken care of issues.



March 5, 2008, 11:02 PM
My PM9 gets carried more than any other gun. It has been flawless. I added Agrips to it and it made a huge difference.

March 5, 2008, 11:20 PM
I own a PM9 with DLC and night sights, and I love it. Out of 800 rounds or so, it has only had one malfunction. At around round 175, it had a FTF, but a simple tap on the back of the slide made it go bang.

I am unaware of any other pistol in a major caliber that is this small and has the desirable features of the PM9 (slide stop, real sights, etc.)

I own several other pistols of various calibers, but the PM9 is the only one that is always with me.

March 5, 2008, 11:21 PM
MK40. Reliable.

March 6, 2008, 12:25 AM
Have a K9 that's been great.


March 6, 2008, 03:36 AM
The only Kahr I've heard that has problems once in a while is the PM40. PM45s are too new to know anything about them.

March 6, 2008, 03:40 AM
I also like it how the people who voted unreliable haven't posted any comments. Almost like they don't own any Kahrs...

March 6, 2008, 06:16 AM
My PM9 has been perfect from day one.

March 6, 2008, 07:38 AM
I also like it how the people who voted unreliable haven't posted any comments. Almost like they don't own any Kahrs.I think at least two people voted for all the options just to see the poll. I should have put an option for that.

The Lone Haranguer
March 6, 2008, 08:39 AM
My E9 (c.1999) has always fed everything reliably. It did have a front sight come off and has lately developed some slide lockback issues, but this does not affect actual shooting.

My PM9 (2006) was unreliable until repaired. Although it took nearly a month before it was returned, it has run reliably since then and is in fact one of my favorite guns for when I just want to slip something in my pocket.

I am unaware of any other pistol in a major caliber that is this small and has the desirable features of the PM9 (slide stop, real sights, etc.)


March 6, 2008, 09:49 AM
K9 and PM9.
Both have been flawless.:)

March 6, 2008, 10:49 AM
Wow, a lot of folks own 9mm Kahrs. Especially the polymer framed ones.

March 6, 2008, 03:54 PM
There is a "see poll results" link.

March 6, 2008, 08:56 PM

Went back to Kahr once. Excellent customer service. 400 flawless rounds later it is my number three favorite carry.

1) S&W M&P 340
2) Seecamp LWS .380



March 6, 2008, 09:39 PM
On its way back to Kahr- 4th trip...better each time, but still has ftc occasionally, still doesn't shoot to poa with any loads. Initially couldn't get thru a mag w/o malfunctions.

Have a number of 9mm semiautos in various sizes/mfrs- no problems except for the Kahr. Soon as it works properly it's for sale.

March 6, 2008, 10:07 PM
PM9,,, Sweet!

March 7, 2008, 10:56 AM
I'm familiar with ftf and fte but what does ftc mean?

March 7, 2008, 04:20 PM
P40 is with me every day the 642 isn't. Utterly reliable from the get-go. Shoots 180 gr. rounds to POA and is just a great CCW.

March 7, 2008, 06:56 PM
I have P9 that I picked up LNIB a few years ago for $350.
When I first got it the slide would occasionally lock back with rounds still in the mag. The trigger pin also walked out.
I was able to fix the premature lock back myself and I also smoothed the slide release down (it needed it).
A call to Kahr got the trigger pin walking out repaired free of charge. Seems mine was a really old P9 and that they had engineered a fix for that since then.

Anyhow, it came back working perfectly and with a new slide release, which I then had to smooth down again.
It's my CCW gun now and has worked perfectly for about 1K rounds.
And it holds the distinction of being the only defective gun I've ever seen that was actually satisfactorily corrected by the factory.

March 7, 2008, 08:30 PM
I had a P9 that was great. Not something I wanted to shoot at the range all day, but I could carry it all day no problem and it went band every time I pulled the trigger.

Ukraine Train
March 7, 2008, 08:46 PM
FWIW, the gun shop I was at today told me to run away from polymer frame Kahrs but the steel ones are fine. I've wanted a CW9 for a while.

hand cannon
March 7, 2008, 10:37 PM
My P45 had light primer strike issues out of the box. This happened with five different brands of ammo. The overall failure rate was 7%. I realized that it was not going to magically fix itself at the end of the break in period. So I called Kahr and they sent me a new striker and spring. It has ran fine for 604 rounds since. I really like this pistol. Relatively light weight, fits my hand perfectly, points naturally, amazing accuracy. Another four hundred more trouble free rounds or so and I will make it my primary CCW.


March 8, 2008, 12:34 AM
Two steel Kahr's: K9, MK9

K9: Second owner, first owner only put a box or two through it. Probably 2k/2.5k rounds through it at this point. I expect it to go bang every time and it does.

MK9: Second owner, again first owner didn't shoot it much if any. Probably 1.5k rounds with zero issues. My wife had an FTF the first time she tried it. Discussed limp-wristing with her and no more issues.

I'll buy another K9 or MK9 the next time the opportunity comes along...

If you have a T9 and would like a Browning HiPower in trade give me a shout.

March 8, 2008, 01:06 AM
I have the PM9 and P45 with about 500 -600 rounds through each without a hiccup. Very reliable and accurate between 7 and 15 yards. The PM9 is my off-duty carry. Love it and would consider purchasing the PM40 if the price is right!

March 8, 2008, 01:49 AM
TP9 with 1 ftf in first 50 but nothing since with 600+ rounds.

Very rough shooting at first but after GOOD lube job and 200 rnds bullseyes galore...

Really needs a slingshot or slide release to chamber but nothing wrong with that i guess.

March 8, 2008, 02:46 AM
I have one of the 10 out of 13 (!) steel .40's that works. I dutifully fired 200 rounds through my MK40 to break it in and had no failures at all.

10 out of 13 in the poll so far. Holy cow. I expected better than that. I wonder if that's really representative.

eta: Yikes, the plastic .40's are 50/50! That can't be right. I'm glad I didn't have to shoot 200 rounds through a 16 oz .40 tho.

March 8, 2008, 08:46 AM
I have an MK9 that has been very reliable after the 200rd. break-in. During break-in, the slide would occasionally fail to return to battery. Since then, the only issues I've had are strange jams when I don't lube the gun adequately.


I'm familiar with ftf and fte but what does ftc mean? Failure to chamber?

March 8, 2008, 09:11 AM
I own, and carry, an 11 year old E9 and a year and a half old K9 Elite. Both are rock solid reliable and very very accurate.

March 8, 2008, 05:37 PM
I have a K9094NC and it has been 100% reliable.:D

March 8, 2008, 06:15 PM
I currently own a stainless K9. It has never failed to feed, except with 115 grain Silvertips. They wouldn't make it up the feed ramp, perhaps due to the shorter bullet length. With any other ammo, the feeding is utterly flawless.

I used to own a P9. It had numerous little issues, so I returned it to the factory for repair. Recoil would push out both the slide lock and the trigger pin. The feeding wasn't up to the same level as my older K9. After the hack job the factory did to retain the trigger pin, I sold it for a hundred dollar loss. Oh well.

Now here's my big problem with Kahrs - small parts breakage.

Strikers - In just my stainless K9, I've been through four strikers - broke one today!
Trigger springs - I've broken two trigger springs, albeit they were the older two coil springs.
Cocking cam springs - Two of these have broken. When they went, it was the sickest feeling in the world.
Ejectors - Broke one of these too.

So my feeling is, Kahr cannot produce a durable product. I was considering purchasing a twin to my K9, but no longer. I appreciate the ergonomics, the simplicity, and the style of the Kahr. But they don't last.

March 8, 2008, 06:20 PM
Strikers - In just my stainless K9, I've been through four strikers - broke one today!
Trigger springs - I've broken two trigger springs, albeit they were the older two coil springs.
Cocking cam springs - Two of these have broken. When they went, it was the sickest feeling in the world.
Ejectors - Broke one of these too.
Just curious and since I have one of the very early K9s and have not had a single problem of any kind, I'm wondering how many rounds you have through the pistols?

March 9, 2008, 01:26 AM
I'm wondering how many rounds you have through the pistols?
Good question. Frankly, I'm not sure myself. Mine's a somewhat early one, s/n AR0xxx. I purchased it new - wow, 11 years ago, as a 21st birthday present to myself. I can only guesstimate 8000 to 10000 rounds. I shoot much more often now, and at higher round counts per outing, than a decade ago.

March 9, 2008, 01:55 AM
My experience is that you have to watch ammo. I have thousands of rounds of 147gn 9mm hydrashok, and it doesn't feet too well in my K-9. The long bullet is just a little too long. Best results seem to come with lighter bullets with a shorter OAL. I have found that Glaser is 100% reliable. That plastic ball in the nose really works well.

Basically, make sure whatever load you are using doesn't scrape the magazine and you should be GTG.


March 9, 2008, 09:27 AM

Any questions??? :evil:

Except for the broken extractor from Wolf, this is the norm. :eek:

The Bushmaster
March 9, 2008, 11:03 AM
ftc= failure to cycle...

March 9, 2008, 11:34 AM
MK9 elite model, excellent quality, hundreds of rounds of reloads and commercial no failures, accurate for a small compact.

March 9, 2008, 08:19 PM
I have a kahr cw9. Love the slimness, ergos, low recoil, accuracy, and under 400 price. Great gun. Only con--- no night sights.

March 10, 2008, 12:05 AM
I have had a P9 covert for about 2 years now. I love it - it's been utterly reliable so far. Wouldn't hesitate to trust it.

March 10, 2008, 05:50 AM
MK9 here and I think it is just about perfect. It is a triffle heavy for such a small gun so it isn't optimal for front pocket carry, but the gun produces so little felt recoil that it can be shot all afternoon without discomfort. And inside fifteen yards it shoots just a couple of inches high. Which is not a problem. I've never had a jam, even during break-in. I love this gun.

March 10, 2008, 02:21 PM
My PM-9, after a little work, is now completly reliable and my primary carry. My P-40 still has an issue loading the first round out of the magazine and is currently at Kahr for work.

March 11, 2008, 04:32 PM
Alot of people have the 9mm poly frame. I didnt see that many posts on how they are Not reliable, but alot voted such.

March 11, 2008, 07:57 PM
I bought my K-40 6 years ago I carry it nearly 24-7 and shoot it often. I could say 2000 rounds I may have had 2 failure to feed in all that time.
It seem to work for me.

March 11, 2008, 08:20 PM
E9 works 100%

Invisible Swordsman
March 11, 2008, 08:45 PM
I have an MK9 and love it. It's accurate, reliable, carries well and is a joy to shoot.

March 11, 2008, 10:44 PM
I loved my pm40, and it is a REALLY accurate gun for a 3 inch barrel, and the trigger was REALLY nice for a DAO. But for my daily CCW that I am willing to bet my life on???????????? NO!!! I had the same crumbling followers as everyone else (that never seems to come up in pro kahr posts). And in about 2000 rounds i had only 2 problems with trigger reset. yet this was enough to remind me i never had ANY probs with any j-frames i have ever owned. hence I traded my pm40 towards a M&p 340ct. I miss the kahr trigger, and it was more FUN at the range but i am talking about WORST CASE SCENARIO moments here and I will count on my revolver first.

March 12, 2008, 03:44 AM
i have a kahr k-40 and it has been 100% reliable.

March 12, 2008, 08:50 AM
been flawless for over 9800 rounds since taking it out of the box. never shot a better handgun, goes bang every time, rides in my front pocket 24/7. Just got it back from cylinder and slide and their kahr custom work is totally awsome. not cheap work but what a job they did on my kahr PM9. Had the grips stippled 360 degress and it changed the entire feel and looks of the gun. Had a super trigger before I sent it in, now it is even much better, looks like every part was super polished. Had xs 24/7 tritium big dot sites installed on it and this is one heh of a defence gun IMO. With the big dot sites It is very fast to acquire the target at 15 yards and under.

Also have a k9 that has around 3000 perfect rounds through it also. I honestly cannot say one thing negative about the two that I own. They have NEVER malfunctioned one time. The k9 is just one totally awsome handgun, and what a range gun. I carried it in my 5.11 tactical pocket T-shirt while my PM9 was at cylinder and slide. And although heavier than my PM9 it was still very concealable carrying the way I did. Certainly not able to pocket carry though like the PM9. KAHRS ROCK

March 12, 2008, 09:08 AM
KP4544N, it is my all the time carry gun and is ultra reliable, controllable and accurate


March 12, 2008, 12:03 PM
K40 800+ rounds very reliable, never a problem with HP or FMJ.

March 12, 2008, 11:12 PM
I shot 225 rounds on Sat for the first time break-in. Had one ftf but overall very pleased.

March 15, 2008, 09:17 PM
I recently purchased a CW40. I really dont like anything about it other than the size and weight. I have put nearly 500 rounds through it. The last time I shot it, after I cleaned it, I put two mags through it and it started jamming on me, put another mag through it and it jammed again. Two jams within 18 rounds after a cleaning ***. :banghead:

Oh and my biggest gripe about it is that you cannot eject a live round after it has been chambered.

Have not felt comfortable enough to carry it for fear of it either jamming or not being able to clear a fouled round. Called Kahr about it they said give it another few hundred rounds and it should start to come around. I think i am going to just send it back to them and make them look it over.

I guess i will give it another try because there are a lot of people out there that like Kahr but right now i am a bit disgruntled.

J Lambs
March 15, 2008, 09:26 PM

April 6, 2008, 07:38 PM
brand new P9 first 300 rounds. 115gr ball, hydrashocks and silvertips

not a single bobble

April 6, 2008, 07:45 PM
Otis, my experience with the two Kahrs I own is, first they are the tightest pistols I have ever owned and that's why Kahr says you need to loosen them up by running 200 rounds through them.

I had no failures of any kind with either my K-9 or PM9, but they were really tight.

April 6, 2008, 07:59 PM
I have the PM9 and it has been rock solid reliable with 6 round mags, but fails to feed the 1st round out of the 7 round mags.

msg usa
April 6, 2008, 08:19 PM
K-40 100% reliable with over 1,000 rds. My full time partner.

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