[wankerjake]

Cobra derringer in .32acp. What a piece of crap. Trigger pull was damn near impossible and accuracy was...lets just say that the muzzle flip was so bad I would have had to aim at a bad guy's feet to hit him in the chest if he was 7 yards away. Why did I not get the stainless model in .22lr I will never know. At least that one looked cool, even if it would have been a piece of crap too. Anyway I don't have it anymore. Thank God.

[EdLaver]

Kahr PM9...sold it a week after I bought it because it tee'd me off so much. Bad trigger, feeding problems, mags falling out after 2 shots (and no my thumbs were no where near the mag release). I didnt want to deal with the customer service and sending back for repair crap so I sold it to my smith who wanted to tinker with it for $35 less than I payed for it.

[jbkebert]

Glock 17 and Norinco 1911. Both jammed way to often and I could not shoot them with any hint of accuracy.

[Gibbles]

I have been lucky and had very good luck, most issues were easliy fixable with a little bit of work not counting the SKS and some crap mags... and a drum that never worked.

My biggest dissapointment right now is my beretta 92fs, it was my first pistol and one of my nicest guns I own... and 100% reliable from day one... I just can't shoot well with it...
I have taken several classes and I have gotten very good with everything else I own, including 1911's and Glocks, and I love my G21, but I just cannot group with the 92fs...

I'm getting close to just parting with the gun, but I'm going to try replacing the barrel before I finally give up on it... :banghead: I may try a rental 92fs first... if I can group with that then there has to be something wrong with mine....

[rduckwor]

Taurus PT1911. MIne was a POS. Hope your's isn't.

RMD

[skwab]

Taurus 24/7C - I was so excited about this pistol - Loved the grip, the trigger had a light, smooth draw, had an easy to disengage safety. Decent size - not toot thick. Only problem - no matter what I did it wouldn't shoot straight. Even as close as 3-5 yards - aim at the bullseye - wouldn't hit it. I know a lot of people have great luck with theirs and love them - I didn't.

[newmenu]

FranklyTodd - Sig P239 CCP package. $756 of jam-o-matic fun!

I just bought that exact same package last weekend. Ive already put 500 cheap range ammo through it and I love it! Not one jam or failure to feed. Its laser accurate and feels great in my hands. I also think its one of the most elegant and aesthetically pleasing looking modern guns you can buy.

I would buy new magazines and or a slightly higher quality round for that gun. Otherwise, PM or email me, I would not mind having two of em.

[newmenu]

CZ-75 - this was my first gun, and my biggest dissapointment, mag issues

Glock 34 - this gun didnt like the cheap range ammo my G19 would eat all day

Kimber custom II - Jam city, even with good ammo and Wilson comabat mags

[SupraBo]

It’s funny to hear from bad things about Glock, Most popular hand gun in the world and the old guys still don’t like plastic

I bought a keltec sub 2000 9mm at a gun show. It was horrible, it was accurate when it worked. It looked liked someone went to home depot and made a gun

[markpcola]

I'm VERY disappointed in my Kel-Tec P3AT. I can't believe it passed inspection being SO prone to Fail-to-Feed...My G26 which I've had since 1996 has always been silky smooth and FLAWLESS.

[PaladinX13]

Ruger Single Six in .17 HMR... I wanted the .22 LR/mag but was gifted the "wrong" gun. Still appreciative, but definitely wish it was the gun I wanted. I never shoot the expensive .17 HMR unfortunately.

[20nickels]

Glock 23. A fine gun, but just didn't fit me.

[EnsignJimmy]

The first handgun I ever bought started out as a disappointment. I bought a Glock 23, having never fired anything other than some air-rifles and a .410 shotgun before in my life. The checkering on the grip was painful, the recoil distressingly snappy, and the gun would produce patterns, instead of groups.

That was all me, though. I eventually filled the checkering with black silicone, and learned how to shoot properly (putting more rounds through it than have gone through many of my other guns put together.) Now, it's not the most accurate autoloader I own, but it'll produce nice groups at 25 yards all day, and has been treated to night-sights and a nice carry rig.

Now the only two handguns that I could say were real disappointments was an old Browning Baby .25 ACP, and a Taurus .357 Magnum. The Browning would keep all six bullets in an area the size of a door at seven to ten yards, and had a reliability best-described as 'indifferent.' The Taurus looked nice, but was quirky. Fortunately, I never actually owned the Browning (I only had it because I was asked to clean it up and fix it,) and the Taurus was traded in for a Marlin rifle for zero regret.

[MJZZZ]

My Kimber Ultra CDP was my biggest disappointment. I got the first one, unpacked it, pressed in the mag release and it would not come back out. The gun went back, the second gun had all kinds if feeding problems. A trip back to Kimber and now all is well. It's an awesome shooting gun, but it has been a pain in the neck. Mike

[Glockman17366]

Kahr MK9
This is a high quality little handgun and, for it's small size, very accurate. But I bought it as a pocket pistol and it was just too damned heavy for that.
If I'm going to carry on my hip, as the MK9 would have required, I'm going to carry a larger handgun (in my case, a Glock 19 or Ruger SP101.

All in all,the gun isn't a disappointment...but the weight was, considering how I wanted to carry it.

[pakmcc]

First was a Colt Diamondback, 4" in .22 long rifle. you couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it at ten yards. (from the inside)
There was a dealer in Bridge City Tx. who had a case of the little raskiles, I must have brought five of them trying to find one that was accurate. I couldn't find any of them that were accurate. Great triggers, feel good in the hand and you couldn't hit anything with them. I laught at dealers at the gun shows with them.
The other gun was a browning high power. the feed ramp was curved in the wrong direction. it wouldn't feed from the mag. at all. The dealer wouldn't take it back unfired,
Thirty years later I was oftered a Argentina clone and it was accurate and relibable. 6 months later, I was oftered a FEG BHP clone. it,s still in my safe.
Then I tried a BHP. it was not accurate and the trigger was crap.
And there's not much you can do for the trigger on a BHP.
I turned the BHP into an M1 garand at the next gun show.
Pat

[Elbert P . Suggins]

The worst purchase for me was a Erma .22 semi auto. It's a Luger action except it is a piece of junk. FTF, FTE, in every clip. The gunsmith said he could do nothing to repair it because it was the nature of the beast. The next one was a Ruger Super Redhawk .44 mag with a 10 1\2inch barrel. All the recoil came back straight into your arm because of the heavy barrel. For a long gun it would be a Beretta 45LC pump action Gold Rush. Loading tube fell off and FTE were every other one in cowboy action shooting. It's for sale!

[TheStig]

Bersa Thunder .380

First 50 rounds I put through it were FMJ Winchester White Box, 27 rounds failed to feed properly in one way or another... one I couldnt get out of the barrel for almost 20 minutes and then THE ****ING TRIGGER BROKE, it just went limp, I could pull it and it just swung back and forth.

I returned it back to the factory, got it back and sold it the next day for 75.00 less than I paid for it...

Worst piece I ever owned.

[colemanw]

When I was a newbie I bought a snub .357 thinking I'd use it as a plinker... :banghead:

[Choclabman]

Sig P229 Elite.

Bought brand new, in the blue box.
Terrible trigger, and severe cosmetic flaws that started shortly after buying, and got worse. It was picky with the ammo both FMJ, and JHP it would digest.
Ammo that my G17, G19 and G26 will digest without a hiccup the P229 choked on. It even hated Gold Dots.

A replacement from Sig Sauer was just as bad.

I have an older non railed P220, that I love. I will never spend my money again, on newer Sigs and their pitiful Quality Control.

[280shooter]

Hmmm...
"Biggest handgun disappointment. " That would have to be not having one when I needed one

NO not having it go bang when you need it to go BANG,,

[280shooter]

MY BUDDIE and i hit the range with his brand new right out of the box, p-22,,, we tried 4 dif types of ammo. and the 2 mags that came with it, we could never get a full mag to shoot with out a failure.he and his nephew sold them. less then a month, after they went back to the factory;; they both said what a POS,,,lol.

mine would be Taurus. any of them,

[LoneCoon]

CZ-52. The new firing pin keeps sticking, taking out of battery after every other shot.

[Master Blaster]

SIG P220ST, unreliable inaccurate, went back to SIG when the extractor failed on the first 200 rounds (it didnt wowrkl right out of the box with full power ammo).

Second worst is a Ruger redhawk.
Bang Click Click Clikc Bang Click click, you get the idea.

[skidooman603]

During the Clinton ad. Last time I stocked up, Hands friggin down, Intratec Tec-9. OMG Piece of S***. Looked awesome functioned fine, just had no good use except to scare people. Sights are useless. Good news is I just turned it into a service grade Garand.

[Big Bill]

b) Nobody had a bad thing to say about Hi-PointThat's because nobody is dumb enough to buy one in the first place. :)

[rhtwist]

Inconceivably the worst firearm I ever purchased was a new Colt Series 70 Reissue. The gun began self destructing within 100 rounds. Sent back twice and they would not fix the remaining issues for a third return for repair.
rhtwist

[atlanticfire]

I too have felt the shame of the Sigma 40. I never though I could by a gun that would be as horrible as that thing.

[MDG1976]

KAHR CW 45. Innacurate & unreliable. I plan on getting rid of it this week.

[STARR15]

I bought a stainless steel PPK in 1985 just to be like James Bond. Just could not shoot the thing. Was glad to sell it to my brother. My Dad has it now. I don't think he has ever fired it.

[Dr.Rob]

.380 Russian Makarov... overcut chamber (left bulged, unreloadable brass) heavy triggerpull, overbuilt rear adjustable sight. Should have picked up an EG gun in 9x18.

[James T Thomas]

A cast steel 22 LR "Luger" look alike from Stoeger.

[geothefisher]

Lets see...I think it would be a toss-up between a Jennings J-22 and an Excam GT380. The best thing about the Jennings was that I got it with an extra clip, holster and over 5000 rounds of .22LR for $35. I think I paid 65 for the Excam with a holster and extra clip. You can't hit anything with either of them unless you put the barrel against what you want to hit. I got my money back for the Excam, and still own the old Jennings because my older son thinks it looks like a James Bond gun and he wants it.

[DJinCO]

Kimber.

I bought one because of a gun rag review. Jam-o-matic. Tried different mags, bullets and Kimber worked on it.

Sold it for a $400 loss.

Same story for a Walther PPK/S in the early 90's.

[Gibbles]

I would of given you $450 for that kimber... ;)

[KAK]

SIR its called the Glock 21 and it holds 13+1 ACP. The GAP is dumb but Glock makes the best pistols at any price.

[carguy2244]

To me, the bigger the price tag, the higher the expectations.
Wilson CQB, high dollar gun, $1800 at the time. Wouldn't feed anything but hardball. Nice tight gun, accurate too, but if it doesn't shoot, it's got to go, so it went.

[skwab]

For me it was a taurus 24/7 Compact. I loved everything about this pistol - if you ever hold one you'll understand - the grip is great, the trigger was shockingly pleasant. great capacity and versatility with two different size mags - the problem? Couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, even at ridiculously short distances. I thought it was me being my first SC and all - so I worked with it, adjusted the rear sight - put several hundred rounds through it (without a single failure mind you) but it never panned out - got rid of it, got a M&P 9C and first shot out of the thing was dead center. But I don't miss it, that's for sure. Luckily I didn't lose much on it.

[Gibbles]

I think the worst one right now was my Keltec P11, I liked the gun, I bought it as a cheap knock around gun.
Tobad I only had it for one week, I had it stolen out of my truck the one day I just happened to leave it in there, the night before I had just polished the feed ramp and polished the chamber due to a rough tight chamber.
I think it could of been a great gun.

[skeeter_08]

CZ 75B Compact; stovepiped like no other gun I've ever seen with regular 115gr. Blazer 9mm ball ammo; traded this POS on a Glock 17, which runs beautifully on anything you feed it, especially Blazers

[NMGonzo]

Perspective:

Any of my guns were cheaper and less disappointing than my first marriage.

[Publius1688]

Walther P22. Jam-happy. Pain in the rear to take down.

[bwsmith2850]

For me it was a S&W Sigma SW9 that I bought because it was cheaper than a Glock shortly after I got married. The thing was unbelievable. I thought as a last ditch pistol I could live with the crummy sights and I could. I could even hit with them. What I couldn't abide was its absolute refusal to feed hollowpoints off a full magazine. Any size, any weight, any shape, any maker. It didn't carry enough bullets to short the mags a couple to make it happy. It would feed FMJ all day but not JHP. I had to look at the side regularly to convince myself that that thing really did come from S&W. I love Smiths. I had 3 other Smiths, revolvers and autos, by then that I never had a problem with and now have 3 more. Just bought a Model 48 .22LR/.22MAG last week. I still can't believe that thing came from the same co.

After 2 months I sold it at a loss, bought a Glock 27 and haven't had any trouble with it in 12 years. Live and learn. Don't buy it just because it's cheap.

[FunYet]

2 round trips to Kahr for FTF, premature slide lock and light strikes. Each time it came back it was in worse than when I sent it to Kahr. Bummed because it's the perfect size and shape for pocket carry and it is scary-accurate (when it actually goes bang).

[tomwalshco]

Like Gibbles, I've got a love/hate relationship with my Kel-Tec P11. I think it's a great little gun, nice feel, manageable recoil, good footprint, VERY reliable, but Jeez, that trigger!!

By the time the firing pin releases after what seems like a 3" pull, coupled with a 10lb+ resistance, your hands are shaking.

Unfortunately the spring for the trigger operates the firing pin, whichs means light strikes if you mess with it. Get use to it or sell it to Chuck Norris...

[Offfhand]

dhoomon, I'm with you on that. their service attitude is us against them, customers are barbarians at the gates

[gbw]

A new Smith & Wesson model 317, 3".

This is an expensive revolver, and the parts fit and function is very poor and not worth near the price.

The hammer wobbles around on the pin - it wobbles on firing and during retraction from he block. Same with the trigger. Extractor rod fit is very sloppy. Frame is not even the same on both sides where it should be. One instance of the extractor slipping over a fired cartridge (yes, possible the cartridge was at fault).

Sight screws both turn so freely that I doubt there is a spring under either.

Accuracy mediocre at best.

Very disappointing from Smith. I have some older guns of theirs, comparing the new with the old is just very sad and discouraging.

[frankiestoys]

Before buying my SS GP 100 i was looking at a Taurus Tracker 357 i liked the look of it and the ported barrel .
I immeditly rented one , and found it poorly made and inaccurate.
I spent about a $100 more and bought the RUGER, and never looked back.

[feedthehogs]

biggest disapointment in a handgun


The shooter behind it in most cases.

[EddieNFL]

Toss up between S&W 659 and Kimber Tactical Custom.

[bigred0383]

Kimber Custom TLE 2

I really wanted it to work. It was beautiful. Fit and finish was perfect. Accurate beyond my wildest dreams....

...but it wouldn't even reliably feed ball.

Went through the break in period...right up to 1,000 rounds. Still wouldn't work right. Gunsmith was going to repolish the feed ramp and retune the extractor, but he said they were fine.

Wasn't limp wristing, had several people try it all with the same results.

Tried singling out the mags. Still no luck.

Lost 200-300 on it. Just couldn't keep it if I couldn't rely on it.

[texagun]

Kimber Custom TLE 2

I really wanted it to work. It was beautiful. Fit and finish was perfect. Accurate beyond my wildest dreams....

...but it wouldn't even reliably feed ball.

Went through the break in period...right up to 1,000 rounds. Still wouldn't work right. Gunsmith was going to repolish the feed ramp and retune the extractor, but he said they were fine.

Wasn't limp wristing, had several people try it all with the same results.

Tried singling out the mags. Still no luck.

Lost 200-300 on it. Just couldn't keep it if I couldn't rely on it.

I've heard that story before. Our local police department sent a bunch of them back to Kimber for the same problem. They just couldn't get them to be reliable. Most of the officers went back to Colt 1911's.

[benzy2]

Mine would be a Ruger Single six. Nothing wrong with the pistol at all, just that single action wasn't my thing. I was told it would be better than sliced bread and it was just meh. I got lucky that prices sky rocketed right after I bought mine so I sold it used for a profit. Worked out for me.

[bigred0383]

I've heard that story before. Our local police department sent a bunch of them back to Kimber for the same problem. They just couldn't get them to be reliable. Most of the officers went back to Colt 1911's.

I went back to my 92fs (talk about being spoiled with reliability). Still rent 1911's quite often though.

[plateshooter]

In buying, shooting, and trading handguns for almost 50 years, I only had one genuine POS handgun. It was a Llama MiniMax 45ACP. Jammed constantly, and I had to wear goggles to keep the brass out of my eyes.

[Malamute]

Self loaders. 1911's in particular. Reliabilty, terminal performance with ball type ammo, ergonimics. All of these things in comparison to Smith DA and Ruger SA revolvers in 357 mag, 44 mag, and 45 Colt cals.

YMMV

[jad0110]

Self loaders. 1911's in particular. Reliabilty, terminal performance with ball type ammo, ergonimics. All of these things in comparison to Smith DA and Ruger SA revolvers in 357 mag, 44 mag, and 45 Colt cals.

I've been fortunate with my 1911. It is reliable with all loads I've run through except for 230 grain CCI Blazers and one particular home brew I tried.

But like you, I still prefer S&W and Ruger wheel guns.

----

My biggest dissappointment was a Taurus Model 94, 22LR, 4" stainless steel.

First off, a lot of people have nice Taurus 94s, so please don't take the following the wrong way; mine was simply a Turd (note the capital "T" :) )

I traded in a perfectly good blued 6.5" Heritage Rough Rider Combo in 22LR/22Mag (stupid :banghead:) for the 94 because I wanted an inexpensive DA revolver on which to work on trigger control.

The 94 I ended up with had such a heavy, extra crunchy DA pull that it didn't make a good training aid for my other DA revolvers. Actually, the pull on mine was so bad that it was not useable. There was a huge rough spot on the trigger about 1/3 of the way into the pull that usually made me throw my shots trying to compensate for it. The SA pull, in fairness, was useable. So often, that's how I shot the gun, obviously defeating the purpose of buying it in the first place.

Worse, the gun would bind every 100 rounds or so at first. Note that I always eject the empties straight down to avoid lead build up under the ejector star. I tried cleaner shooting CCI Stingers. I even attempted cleaning the gun every 50 rounds. It would still bind up. The cylinder gap appeared to be in spec, so it wasn't that. Maybe the hand wasn't fitted properly.

So I sent it back to Taurus, specifically stating that I cleaned it every 50 rounds or so. After 6 weeks I got it back in the exact same condition with a note to clean it more often. Huh? You mean like, after every cylinder full? So I had the same problems, except I noticed that Taurus somehow managed to turn the gun into a lead spitter. I always wear safety glasses, ajnd ths gun reminded me why. When I heard chunks of lead bouncing off my glasses, I put the gun down and never fired it again. I sold it for a substantial loss, disclosing my troubles to the buyer.

I then bought a 1959 S&W K-22 / Model 17 and have never looked back. And I recently added a Heritage RR to my collection again, and it is every bit as fun as my first.

[btaylor73]

toss up with a walther p-22 or kel tec .380

[stu454]

One of the first Kahr K40's.

It was in matte nickel and was beautiful. The chamber was cut too tight and brass as well as loaded rounds would hang up and you couldn't eject them.

One of several Kahrs that was selectivly reliable.

[PowerG]

I wouldn't call it a disappointment, as I had little expectations for the gun, but my G/F had a Lorcin .25 in a drawer for home defense. She had a box of ammo, and had never fired the gun, though it had obviously been shot quite a bit. In two magazines it displayed just about every malfunction possible short of actually exploding. I stopped fiddling with it when the firing pin locked up in the firing position, it had fired two consecutive rounds one time. It would probably REALLY hurt if you hit somebody in the face with it, if you threw it hard enough.

[OLDTRUCKER]

Bought a HERITAGE ARMS .22-.22mag Rough Rider because it looked like an old west style gun. After shooting it the first time was wishing i hadn't bought it. Now it stays in the bottom of the gun locker collecting dust.

[mcdonl]

Huh... I have never been dissapointed in any handgun I purchased.

[Sniper X]

For me it has to be the AR-7. I thought it was soooo uber cool because they featured it so many times in James Bond movies and in a few other movies where it was the prefered (sniper) weapon of the secret Agent or even baddies. When I first got one to shoot, I thought it was one of the biggest POS things I ever laid my hands on quality wise. And it didn't shoot anything like I thought it would. It was OK but was my personal biggest disapointment. On the other hand, the best gun I ever got after lusting after one was my model 29 six inch blue like Dirty Harry's.

[OrangePwrx9]

This thread's been around awhile, so I may have already posted this.

Biggest disappointment is a S&W 586 with 4" barrel. Just not accurate. Been back to Smith, gunsmith put a fancy target front sight on it, put together tailored reloads, even got a trigger job. Nothing helped. But I like its looks and have kept it around.

Every year or two, I'd drag it out and spend several sessions trying to get to the bottom of its issues. Never succeeded.

Finally I've gotten so old I have trouble seeing the sights on any handgun. In my present state of deterioration, the 586 shoots as good as any.
Bob

[Full Metal Jacket]

an XD45 midsize--biggest POS i've ever wasted money on.

horrible accuracy to begin with, and went downhill the hotter the barrel got.

also would not feed any brand of FMJ without jamming. after 700 rounds i called springer, and they said it would be 6-8 weeks to get it back. i got 3 months free range time with the purchase so that was unacceptable to me.

sold it and bought a G21SF. never had a prob after that.

[Leafy Cronmer]

Not something I purchased personally but my grandfathers old Charter Arms undercover 38 special is the poorest quality firearm I have ever handled or shot. It is the biggest piece of junk I have ever seen, and I can assure you that if my grandfather was internet savvy this is what he would have posted. Maybe they make a better quality product now, but compared to his i have played with higher quality cap guns.

[cobblestone]

EAA Witness fullsize 9mm, refuses to feed fmj with any factory magazine. EAA's customer service is also dreadful.

[fflgundealers.net]

Firestar M-43. Remember these? Heavy. "Low" capacity. Couldn't hit squat!

fflgundealers.net (http://fflgundealers.net/)

[Jonah71]

Kahr CW40.
I thought that I had found the perfect CCW. Lightweight, easy to conceal, great ergonomics, DAO, and in a decent caliber.
But there were too many quality control issues; starting with the barrel which looked like an unfinished casting, the polymer frame that was coming apart in rather large pieces, and ending with the gun turning itself into a single shot pistol, by way of the slide stop engaging after every shot. Definitely a very big disappointment.
I'm experiancing exactly the same problems with mine. The worst buy I've made in 2 years.

[Nushif]

I'd say the SP101 I sold.

I loved the look of it, I liked the options ... and then I pulled the trigger.
Now, I realize this was my first handgun and all, but even since I've improved my familiarity with handguns I have yet to find an SP101 with a trigger pull that suits me.

[lloveless]

S & W Sigma 40V. That thing shot 6 inches to the left and 6 inches low with 180 gr bullets. I was able to qualify with it, but had no trust in it and sold it soon after qualifying. I haven't owned another .40 cal gun either.
ll

[SharpsDressedMan]

Bought an early Smith & Wesson Model 60, then a Model 67, then a model 66. Stainless was a new thing...seemed like a great idea. Problem was, S&W didn't have all the bugs out yet, and shooting them regularly caused the timing to go out on every one of my stainless guns. I gave up and went back to blued guns. Later, they quietly acknowledged (by way of rumors in the industry) that different alloys were needed to prevent wear and galling, and brought the stainless production to better standards, even still using carbon parts today to get the best results.

[Tully M. Pick]

My biggest handgun disappointment was the Bulgarian Mak I sold a few years back. The thing was beautiful, looked brand new, and I regret selling it every time a see a Mak listed for sale.

[DasFriek]

Ive owned about 15-20 handguns and i honestly cant say any of them disappointed me. A few had a bug or 2 that needed tweaked, But after that was never an issue.

Luckiest man/woman here?
Or it could be i don't keep anything long enough to find out if it has flaws.
I think the longest ive owned a gun is 1.5 years and thats my PT1911 and im happy enough with it its carried 80% of the time as my ccw.

Instead of buying guns i should just lease them, With the price of ammo im sure i can keep it under 1200 rounds per year!

[dogsoldier0513]

AMT Longslide. After seeing 'The Terminator' for the 1st time I just HAD to have one. Junk........

[SharpsDressedMan]

I have another! S&W 952 9mm target. It just wasn't that accurate. I custom loaded match ammo, weighing cases and powder, etc, and still couldn't make it shoot well.

[Captcurt]

Walther p-22, it is someone else's biggest disappointment now!
I had a P22 for about a month. Worst trigger that I've seen on a pistol. Well, maybe not the worst, but a close second to my 40 cal. Keltec.

[doc2rn]

Oh I almost forgot the Glock 32 that Kaboomed on me!

[EAJ]

Bersa .380 CC. Most problematic pistol I've ever owned, both before and after repairs.

[chardin]

L.E.S. Rogak. A Steyr GB in stainless -- who could ask for better? Sadly, they made the thing so badly that the gas system leaked. (Yes, that would be the gas system that was the pistol's central selling point.) So they just jammed in some crap around the barrel and made it into a sort-of blowback. Genius move!

I don't think the thing fed five FMJ rounds in a row without a jam. It was abysmal.

That will teach me to buy a pistol made in Morton Grove, Illinois.

[TheProf]

Sig P238....

1. It's cute. Accurate. Easy follow up shots. Easy to conceal.
2. But... it was simply not reliable. Too many feeding issues.
3. It's now collecting dust....
4. (It's like a pretty gal that has a reputation for being unfaithful..... No thanks.)

[HGUNHNTR]

Full sized XD 9mm Huge muzzle rise for a 9mm, poor accuracy. I sipped the koolaide and spit it out.

[agoodpeter]

i really love all guns, i love the way the feel against my skin, to watch a war movie while cleaning a gun is the best way to spend a quiet eveing at home

the most f up and fastest way to piss away any money ever spent on a gun: is to own a taurus made gun

i bought a new pt1911, ftfeed, ftfire, fte, stuck case, the rear sight drifted on the first box of ammo, i used federal factory ball ammo, if the pos did shoot, the bullet at 5 yards was all over a 9x11 photo copy of my home made target, while shooting off a bench,,, really sad,, it feels good, the over sized safety and trigger were nice but wow what a pos

i bought a new judge,, the cylinder would not always line up with the barrel the stop thingy would stick, the front sight was crooked, the trigger got stuck a few times,, then the real pain in the ass was the 410 shells would get stuck(i tried a bunch of differnt types),, never bothered to waste any 45lc on it

[br549arkie]

Had a AMT hardballer 1911 about 20 years ago.Looked/felt great sure wish I could've fired a full mag out of the POS without it galling the frame rails and jamming.
Had a lot of guns since then and have never been able to talk myself into trying another AMT product even though some models looked pretty interesting.

[9mmforMe]

Taurus 85 .38, had to send it back 3 times, finally told them to keep it...they sent me a new one and it had problems too, the cylinder would bind up and the firing pin would not retract back into the recoil shield. Then there was the Taurus PT-22, terrible trigger, many FTF, sold it off. I will never buy a Taurus again.

Other pieces of crap: Bersa thunder .380 (FTFs), Beretta 21 .25. The first shot out of this .25 sent the firing pin assembly backward into my face. I had a thick beard at the time, otherwise that thing would have cut me up and not just have bruised me.

[Joe3of3]

Bought a brand new Taurus PT145 Mil Pro (3rd Generation) in 7/08. It has been back to Taurus four times, for Failure to Fire problems (and once for FTF as well as failure to feed). Taurus replaced the firing pin and firing pin spring assembly, the mag release button, the firing pin block pin, adjusted the magazine body, replaced the barrel (with a used one), but the fourth return was a doozy...Problem Found: "part damaged..replaced". When I called, Taurus did not know what part was replaced! :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

[Erik M]

Taurus Millineum .40 - what can I say. . . nothing good tahts for sure..

[xr1200]

desert eagle 44mag POS
ruger super redhawk -for deer hunting , not accurate at all
Keltec 380 broke
SA 1911 very not accurate
interarms ppk not accurate, although new one is accurate from craigs list
SW 659 9mm heavy and poor trigger
M1A - not accurate unless in match form
M1 garand - not accurate unless in match form
SA FAL 308, not accurate at all
FM hi power, poorly made, parts break
thompson contender, not very accurate due to barrel tension, causing shift of impact.

[texagun]

ruger super redhawk -for deer hunting , not accurate at all
SA 1911 very not accurate
interarms ppk not accurate, although new one is accurate from craigs list
M1A - not accurate unless in match form
M1 garand - not accurate unless in match form
SA FAL 308, not accurate at all
thompson contender, not very accurate due to barrel tension, causing shift of impact.

Wow, you sure have lots of problems with accuracy....:eek:

[walker944]

I was young, semi-poor and excessively hopeful when I purchased a Jennings .380, many years ago. I guess the $85 price tag screamed my name and with all the ignorance in the world, I responded. It was at a pawnshop, and I thought I was getting the deal of the year. Well, it jambed, and jambed, and jambed. I eventually sold it (for what I paid) at a gun show. I hope that guy was able to "bless" someone else, and that person someone else, right on down the line...until everyone on the planet learns that Jennings (and their related Ring of Fire vendors) are complete junk. :cuss:

[xr1200]

bought a jennings 22lr new for $55 25yrs. ago and shot it alot and carried it for 3 yrs, then sold it for $50

[VA27]

S&W 351. Shot nowhere near point of aim and even after a trip back to the factory it wouldn't fire seven in row.

[EVIL]

...jennings .22LR...

...though, truthfully, I paid $0 for it, since it was given to me by a friend who though I could "fix" it...I could not get the thing to extract the first rd, as the slide would only "blow back" 1/4 of the way. I new it was a POS before i got it; but I was more dissapointed that I couldn't get it to work (not that I would carry it anyway .... Yikes!) It was a reliable single shot w/ a six rd mag capacity...:confused: :confused:

you get what you (or don't) pay for ...:banghead:

I gave it back to my buddy after a couple of years and he actually CC it :eek:

[JoelSteinbach]

Every Taurus revolver I ever purchased , Including the NIGHT COURT Judge, the worst of all.

[Prosser]

Let's see: Disappointment is caused by expectation, fueled by value or cost as a variable. Sometimes the problem is between the shooters ears.

So what have I bought that I was disappointed in?
S&W Model 63. Cute little snubbie, in 22lr that was as accurate at 7 yards as most shotguns. Check that, it wasn't that good.:mad:

Colt Trooper III in 22lr. Shot a thumbnail at 11 yards with a cylinder. Wasn't happy with it, so I traded if for an FA 83, 252. Turns out the chambers are so tight on the 252 seating ammo often took a dowel, and removal likewise.

252 bench rested 1/4" at 50 yards for the new owner. I was expecting the greatest 22lr ever, and, I might have had it, but, it required match grade ammo, or some gunsmithing on the cylinder for standard ammo.
Also, when you buy a 2500 dollar gun, you expect it to have a decent trigger pull, matching the guns potential accuracy, so that would be 1-3 pounds for a 252. It came with a nearly 6 pound trigger. Just what you need on a target grade 22lr, with tight match cylinder. I asked Bob Baker why, and, you'd think I spat on Mother Theresa. Whole thing left me with a bad taste in my mouth.

Walther PPK/S. How did Bond ever stop, or shoot the darn thing with huge hands? Bad trigger, HEAVY.

Mac 11 9mm closed bolt. Not a range gun, heavy trigger, never jammed, but, it really wasn't fun, and wouldn't go full auto, and, in Kali, no suppressor either. Loading 32 rounds of tiny 9mm wasn't fun easy, each time.

Two Browning, FN Hi-Powers. I expected a Browning/1911 type trigger and accuracy. Got neither.

[axeman_g]

Both Walthers...

A P22... bought one, never really worked well, traded it... bought another... same issues.

A P99... the design is perfect in my opinion, especially with my being a lefty. Great look, great company, capacity and features are spot on. Accuracy and felt recoil were the issues. Thing jumps like a pissed of wildcat in my hands. Dont know why.

I still want to try them both again though. But it has been proven i am insane.

[Wishoot]

Every DAO semi auto I've ever fired. Particularly the police trade-in S&W 4586 I bought several months ago.

I'm just not a DAO semi auto fan.

[dakota1911]

Without a doubt a Cobra Patriot in .45 ACP I bought years ago. Horrible trigger, jammed up solid after about 100 rounds and regular 1911 mags would not work in it. Only paid $200 new for it but it is not worth $2.00. I would not feel good about unloading it even on someone I don't like. I threw it in the bottom of a gun safe where it has been kicked to the back over time.

[GCBurner]

A WWII surplus Walther P-38 that I got via mail order, sight unseen, from Interarms' ad in Guns & Ammo for $59, just before the Gun Control Act of 1968 went into effect. It was supposed to be NRA Very Good condition, but while the finish wasn't bad, the barrel was shot out, and the slide had cracks in two places, evidently from being shot a lot with hot submachinegun ammo.
I only got to shoot it once before I noticed the cracks, and it printed all over the target at 10 yards. I was afraid to shoot it after that, so I tucked it away for a few years, and eventually sold it for more than I paid for it to a collector who wanted one with the Waffen markings, so I guess it wasn't a total loss.

[TonyT]

A Sig 220 Sport - the gun was totally reliable and very accuate but the Sig 45 ACP barrel fouled badly unlike Sig barrels in 9mm or 40 S&W.

[Prosser]

Walthers for me, as well. I also had a new P-38, and it was not very accurate. Nor were any of the 9MM's I bought in the late 70's, early 80's.
Same with the Walther PPK/s, though it was heavy, inaccurate, and the DA/SA trigger
made me wonder how Bond stayed alive so long.

[aryfrosty]

Mine dirty word special was an HK P-2000sk in .40 cal. First problems was the mag release. I was glad it had ambi-mag releases because it took a couple pounds of force applied to both sides at once the release any mag...full or empty. It was just a crummy gun with pp accuracy on target. It isn't the brand because the P7 I have is the best pistol I have ever had.:barf:

[MattDFW]

Kimber Pro TLE II. Still suffered FTF issues after 3 return trips to Kimber. Even with Wilson Combat and Tripps magazines it was too unreliable. Most expensive paperweight I have ever bought.

[marswalker]

5 rounds and it was traded in

[GETxSOME]

I only have limited experience, but so far mine has been a Kel-Tec P11. I borrowed a friend of mine's and it was an all around ugly experience. The fit/finish was terrible, several malfunctions, poor accuracy, and no matter how I adjusted my grip it kept wearing a rough spot into my hand... after splitting 100 rounds with a friend I sent it back

"So what'd you think? I love this little gun.."

"er.. yeah it worked.. sometimes.."

[rambler]

I've read every post on every page and I'm happy to admit that only 2 of my handguns made the list- a CZ 75B and a S&W 586 4" - and thankfully I've had zero problems with either of them.

By far the biggest piece of junk I ever owned was also the most beautiful handgun I've ever owned...a Browning BDA .380...she was by far my prettiest gun but oh my goodness that girl was a stovepipe machine.

To paraphrase one of the earlier posters - it was like an extremely attractive woman with infidelity issues...no thanks...

[gofastman]

My PF9 let me down, its a great concept: its light, good firepower, and small. It was just too uncomfortable to shoot enough to get proficient with also it had some reliability and quality issues.

[cobblestone]

EAA Witness full size 9mm in wonder finish. Jam-o-matic.

[gohogs93]

Sig mosquito

[jr4521]

Taurus Judge 3 inch magnum, this is my "i should of known better "purchase or my "what did I expect " purchase. Poor fit and finnish, all around bad handgun IMO. Some people love them, I hated it. Traded it in for a down payment on a 300 Win Mag.

[bingo]

Safari Arms Matchmaster on .45: two times a barrel broke down on the "link". Two times waiting for months to repair them. I think they gave me new barrels...But my faith in Safari Arms was below zero, so I sold the nice-looking toy.

[Hypnogator]

My Kahr PM-45. It was larger than the published specs, wouldn't reliably fire a full magazine without jamming. Sent it back to Kahr, who made it more reliable, but still jammed with hardball every two or three magazines. :uhoh:

I might expect something like that from a cheap foreign gun, but a $700+ made in USA handgun sold for defensive purposes should work out of the box. :banghead::banghead::banghead:

[papa_bear]

Steyr M40-A1. Slide would lock up at least once a trip and could not hit the side of a barn with it.

[lizziedog1]

WOW!!!

363 responses and not one mention of a Hi Point Pistol. If I missed one please let me know, but going through this whole thread several times I failed to find one.

[Skinsanity]

Lizzy, I think theres a couple of reasons for that, Those who dont like them would never buy one, and those that have bought them have liked them..

[powwowell]

lizziedog1 says "WOW!!! 363 responses and not one mention of a Hi Point Pistol. If I missed one please let me know, but going through this whole thread several times I failed to find one".

I have owned several Hi Point products. They were NOT big disappointments. I might even get some more one day.

My biggest disappointment was a CZ PO1. The trigger actually hurt my finger. I mean bad. I exchanged the trigger for a combat trigger. There was a small improvement. And the slide was difficult to rack.

The second biggest disappointment was a Heritage Rough Rider. While it was reliable, it was very unaccurate.

[451 Detonics]

C.O.P., what a useless gun...

[Prorock]

Chiappa 1911-.22. A jamboree every time. Also a Hi-Point .380. Not really a disappointment because I know what it is all about. I did not have any expectations about it's beauty or refinement just wanted something inexpensive to take to the range. An extra gun to add to the mix. Well a hex screw broke in half while I was playing with the rear sights. That was before I even was able to shoot the thing. Not a big deal but kind of a letdown. Sent it to the factory and when it gets back it will be sold to the friend that talked me into buying it.

[merlinfire]

Would have to be the S&W model 66 I bought over the internet in unfired condition. As you can see the seller missed the description a wee bit.

See, it didn't so much "fire" as it did "explode".

[doc2rn]

Since my last post in '08, I would have to say....Glock 32 that Kaboomed on me in '09. That was a scary dissappointment!

[Jbabbler]

Walther PPS
I should have read up on them before I bought one. That gun is truly the plague. I found a thread concerning reliability of the pps on the Walther forum and my gun had every problem mentioned. Feed failures, RTB issues, etc..... I really wanted that gun to be everything it appeared to be.

[exavid]

My mistake was the much mentioned Jennings .22. Someone should make a conversion kit to convert the thing into a cigar lighter, at least then it would be useful for something.

[metalax]

This is only my opinion.
The Kel-Tec PT-9 and P-11 are by far the worst widely distributed pistol I’ve seen and should not be allowed to be sold with their present design and quality control system. The only thing that is worse than the pistol as a whole is the trigger system; with all trigger markers far out of any ergonomic norms. I purchased a PT-9 for my son and the P-11 for me. The 2 pistols I received would not fire a complete magazine. They where more like 50 percent fire to jam ratio and the PT-9 never fired more then 2 in a row. It took a new firing pin, a 2 hour tune on each gun with some creative machine work to bring these guns up to a mediocre level. I would not trust this weapon anywhere other than a range. These are gun safe fodder and not worth a dime. I’ll be picking up a couple of the new Ruger LC9 real soon!
(Never trust an unreliable or unproven weapon, it could cost you your life)

[AZ Five seveN]

XD45c

[FatPants]

XD9

Very accurate, very unreliable.

[Jonah71]

Kahr CW40. Ejector problems, slide stop problems, mag problems. I expected higher quality from Kahr. Not to mention, when it did work I couldn't hit anything with it. (but that may not have been just the gun.) I didn't keep it long and traded it at a loss.

[Winkman822]

Kimber Eclipse Target II...Worst $1,100.00 I ever dropped on a gun. I'm still trying to get it to run just because, aesthetically and feature wise, I like the gun, but it's an absolute dog when it comes to performing. It's ammo picky, mag picky, and just a flat out disappointment, especially as compared to my Springfield 1911's and my Colt 1911.

[larryf1952]

...By far the biggest piece of junk I ever owned was also the most beautiful handgun I've ever owned...a Browning BDA .380...she was by far my prettiest gun...I had pretty much the same experience with my BDA .380, although I'd not call it a piece of junk by any stretch. I wanted so much to love that gun. It was gorgeous, felt great in the hand and functioned fine. But, it's accuracy was like throwing rocks at a fencepost. 8" groups at 10 yards, no matter the ammo. One shot might be in the bull, the next in the 6 ring, or even further out. I tried and tried and tried to find something that would make that gun shoot better, but I finally gave up and sold it.

[Kurt]

Freedom Arms Model 97 Premier Grade

Ejector rod housing screw broke during hunts, and on two separate guns.

Result; housing, ejector rod and spring 100% lost in the vegetation . . . both times.

I knew to tighten them down enough (without over-tightening them) and use blue Locktite.
One was chambered in .44Mag, and that caliber shouldn't over stress anything on these
revolvers. Also, I used only factory loads in both guns.

It was a "back-to-the-factory" event in both cases (great CS) but still an absolute Royal PITA.

LOVE their overall quality, but . . . .

[sliverflinger]

I guess I should have known better, but the LLama mini LOOKED to just what I was looking for:cuss:.Then I tried to shoot it. 25# trigger, wouldn't hit the ground if you dropped it, and feeding three HB rounds in a row was cause for celebration. It never did feed a round of HP. Tried others Glock, Para ( still have a 12-45 but its heavy to carry all day.) and then I found a used Detonics CM, that is the one I'll be buried with.

[Deen Macheen]

Charter arms explorer- My step dad has one that will also not feed. And now one of the screws/pins fell out of the frame and he cannot fix it. Pure junk.

[Deen Macheen]

Taurus Judge is the only pistol I have ever bought that I wish I hadn't.
Is the Judge junk? My friend had one that has been sent back to Taurus twice because the cylinder kept falling out.

[Deen Macheen]

The CZ-52 was a huge disappointment to me. For ~$100, I got a large, uncomfortable, inconsistent, potentially unsafe, jammomatic range frustration (not toy, definitely) that was unpleasant to shoot for long strings because of the recoil impulse and sharp trigger edges. In comparison, for $135 I got a Makarov PM that was more reliable, accurate, useful, and able to be converted to .380ACP w/o the skills of a gunsmith. The only kind of 'tank' the CZ-52 resembles are the WW2 vintage ones that Saddam buried in the Iraqi sand. I wouldn't take a CZ-52 now if you paid me.

jm
By contrast, I carried a CZ-52 as my sidearm while doing bail bond recovery (bounty hunting). FMJ rounds will go through level 2 body armor and JHP rounds are astoundingly capable self defense rounds. Have had 2 and loved them both.

[Jbabbler]

lizziedog1 says "WOW!!! 363 responses and not one mention of a Hi Point Pistol. If I missed one please let me know, but going through this whole thread several times I failed to find one".

I have owned several Hi Point products. They were NOT big disappointments. I might even get some more one day.

My biggest disappointment was a CZ PO1. The trigger actually hurt my finger. I mean bad. I exchanged the trigger for a combat trigger. There was a small improvement. And the slide was difficult to rack.

The second biggest disappointment was a Heritage Rough Rider. While it was reliable, it was very unaccurate.
People don't have high expectations of a Highpoint so there is no surprise if they don't like it. It's not really a disappointment if you started with low expectations to begin with. Maybe a thread entitled "Pleasantly Surprised by Hipoint" would be a better place. I have not owned one but those that do seem to like them.

[SonofGilnockie89]

Hmm. I haven't had the first problem with my CW9. I have to say that my biggest handgun disappointment was when I came across a beautiful Colt Series 70 MarkIV (I think that's what it was). This was before I knew much of anything about handguns, but the 1911 worship I heard from older friends led me to have high expectations. Out of 7 rounds, 2 failed to feed. I loaded another magazine, another jam. i was shocked that the stainless steel beauty in my hand simply refused to work. In its defense, the owner of this particular sidearm is utterly unconcerned with maintaing his firearms even on a minimal level.....so that was probably the issue. Nevertheless, it put a seed of doubt in my mind regarding 1911s that remains to this day.

[jbr]

"My biggest dissapointment right now is my beretta 92fs, it was my first pistol and one of my nicest guns I own... and 100% reliable from day one... I just can't shoot well with it...
I have taken several classes and I have gotten very good with everything else I own, including 1911's and Glocks, and I love my G21, but I just cannot group with the 92fs..."I have the Beretta 96 .40 cal - same here until i had a trigger job done on it - now i can shot it spot on - just a thought

[simonm2211]

Fails to feed about once per mag, fails to eject every 3rd mag or so. The large backstrap fit the gun exactly once and after that never would stay put again. Oh, and the trigger doesn't reset with such frequency that I have developed a habit of pushing on the rear of the trigger between shots. It is with S&W now for these issues so we will see what it is like when I get it back. Great accuracy, feel and concealability though, so hopefully...

On the opposite end of the spectrum, my Glock 22 has had around 5000 rounds thru it and has been incredibly reliable; zero failures. It is accurate and dependable, though it lacks any kind of charm or charisma. 15+1 of 40S&W. I trust my family's lives to that.

[Jbabbler]

+1 to simonm2211 I wanted the PPS to be as great as it is on paper...

[1858remington]

After working on a gun range for 4 years and dealing with rental guns, these are my dissapointments:

01. Desert Eagle .44 and .50, the only guns that i know can be dissassembled while firing. Recoil and a left thumb make the dissassembly latch rotate and the firearm chambers a round as the slide flings forward off the gun. Also, its mainsprings are heald in place with weak E clips.

02. Colt mustang .380, I thought this would be a perfect carry gun, shame it wouldn't feed reliably.

03. Colt 2000 9mm, the worst firearm to come from colt. works well as a crab weight though.

04. Smith and Wesson Sigma series, Jammity Jam Jam. So bad, our local city PD dumped their use after 2 years of trying to make them work.

05. Bryco,Jennings, and Raven, these cheap little guns only get worse with use.

[Tusker10mm]

Mine had to be a 4" S&W MDL 610. I have the first versions of this gun and jumped at the chance to get the snubbie. However, It just didn't work for me. Yeah, they command a high price these days, but I already sold mine. :(:eek::uhoh:

[Jim NE]

Colt Single Action Army in 45 cal. It was a $1000 (retail) gun in mint condition that couldn't hit the broad side of a barn at 25 feet.

Very VERY pretty, but that didn't matter. I got rid of it.

[AlexanderA]

OK, I'm a 1911 fan. I have small hands. The Beretta, with its double-stack magazine, is too thick in the butt. Plus, you can't carry it cocked-and-locked. For the first shot, you have to either manually cock the hammer, or use the long double-action trigger pull. These are both awkward when the handle is already too big for your hand.

The 15-shot mag capacity is way overrated. I'd rather have an ergonomically better-fitting gun that I could reload faster.

[NMGonzo]

sp101.

How something so small can be such a bear to shoot in double action?

I am getting a spring kit next week.

[bergmen]

As others have said, anything Taurus (PT-99, PT-945, Model 94) Jams, FTF, FTE, broken parts, sights flying off, etc.

Won't ever have anything by Taurus again.

Another disappoinment is North American Arms guardian .32 ACP. Small all stainless DAO auto. Bought it because of small size for carry gun. Jammer, FTF, dumps the mag all the time and it beats the crap out of your hand. Hard to hit anything with sights you cannot see at all.

No way to lock the slide open, I don't like that in any auto handgun, won't have another one that does that.

http://inlinethumb40.webshots.com/15719/2854429710053667879S600x600Q85.jpg

Wife sold hers, mine is in the back of the safe (and should be sold I suppose).

Dan

[Billyj571]

Raven 25 worse gun made

[Fleetman]

Star Firestar .45acp. Way too heavy to carry for it's size, inaccurate, and slide fails to lock back 99% of the time. Other than that, no problem plus it's a .45acp.

[Hess]

My biggest disappointment was with a Glock that had a broken rear rail. The entire lower had to be replaced.

The disappointment was caused by my own belief that Glocks were super-guns that never had breakages. Live and learn.

[rich e]

I've never owned either of these handguns but really,really wanted too,,BAD...

I never buy anything new until there are reports out and everything looks good..I waited patiently,,read reviews and seen both models shoot at my range.....Neither could hold a candle to my Rugers....

I really wanted these two pistols to be reliable and accurate...

[Palehorseman]

Ruger .357 Max bought in 1984, gave to my son-in-law and he loves it, to look at. (and brag about the price for one keeps going up)

Another disappointment was the Ruger Hawkeye 256 Win Mag Single Shot Pistol bought in the 1962. (but with the collector value now, sure should have kept it)

[ksabo45]

I'll have to agree, the Walther P22. What a piece of junk it was, I couldn't wait to get rid of it.

[BigN]

Taurus Tracker in 44 mag. Keep in mind I've had this gun less than 30 days and 40 rounds have been put through it. I bought it new. My first clue to what was in store was when I got it home. I took it out of the box and the cylinder fell out onto the floor. Not to be outdone, I fooled with it a bit and got it locked back in. Took it to the range twice and both times something just felt "not quite right." Yesterday, on my third trip to the range, it locked up on the first cylinder of shells, completely locked up, cocked. The hammer was locked back, cylinder was locked, couldn't do anything. I fooled with it a bit, let some other handgun guys who were there fool with it. We couldn't get it unlocked. So...I made the trip home with a loaded, cocked, 44 magnum in my car. When I got home, I had to take the thing apart to get at the mechanism inside. Got it unlocked and took the shells out. After the shells were out I fooled with it and it either locked completely or the cylinder wouldn't turn. I bought this gun for a trail gun, short barrel, powerful, pretty gun, easy to handle and pull out of my jacket. Stainless steel. It may be able to be fixed but I'm not going to fool with it. I've lost all confidence in the gun and I just don't want it anymore. When I load a gun and pull the trigger, I expect it to go off. I'm going to get rid of it. Sell it, trade it, or whatever but I won't keep a gun like that in my house. That's my first and last experience with anything Taurus. The next one will be Ruger or Smith. It's a pretty gun to look at but that's about all you can do with it. It was around $100 less than the next one up. You get what you pay for...

[dickttx]

S&W 6906. Worst trigger pull I ever saw.

[jeepmor]

10mm Witness jammo-matic.

[snow]

Mine was a ruger sr9. Purchased and before I had a chance to even shoot it the dealer called me regarding the recall and that mine should be sent back. Did this thought everything was ok but approximately 800-1000 rnds and the barrell is peening. I have to send it back again. When I get it back this time it will be traded for a SA XD or Glock

[jman74]

Kimber CDP. Jam-o-matic to the extreme. Sent it out twice and it never got any better. Then it decided to start eating firing pins. So much for a Custom Defense Pistol! My Springer GI ran circles around it for about a third of the price including a host of mods.

[Trad Archer]

Ruger Vaquero 44-40.....cylinder throats measured .425" and barrel was .429".

2 Ruger Vaqueros both 45 colt....cylinder throats on both measured .448" and barrels .452"

[klutchless]

Ruger Blackhawk 357 finaly saved up the 600 bucks for it and couldnt hit a fish in a barrel regardless of what factory round I shot out of it.Had it two weeks and traded it for a 20ga and a taurus 357 mod 66 and never looked back.I always wanted a ruger but you cant pay me to own one and thats sad I have hi points and ravens no problems.

[Cop Bob]

Used to see quite a few "Warranty Issues" with the old AMT Back up... not much of a design...

When I was just a pup I bought a LLama .380, kind of a tiny 1911 knock off... darn thing came apart on me with the fiest box of ammo, the slide actually came OFF and hit me in the face, glad I was wearing safety glasses...

I'm surprised to see some folks mentioned the S&W version of the Walther, outside of the recall, which Smith took care of in an average of 3 weeks turn around.. they have run fine, and we bought 5 of them for our partners and key office staff..

A lot of the overseas made knock offs do not surprise me..

[pastordigger]

Glock makes the best handguns in the world?

*NOT* if their ergonomics don't fit your hands, they don't.

I've shot every kind of Glock made many different times over the years (owned by various friends, etc.) and I've *NEVER* found one that would fit my hand properly and comfortably. Hence, it was a lot of work to shoot one accurately.

No thanks.

That being said, I've discovered that plastic guns in general just don't seem to fit me -- so there you go. I'll stick with that "old-guy" old-fashioned steel.

[Texshooter]

Glocks

[ahil925]

Biggest disappointment, M1895 Nagant, though no fault of the gun's. I knew going into it that the trigger would be a tiny bit heavy in the DA department, but I figured it'd give me a fun workout dry firing it. Ordered some ammo for it online at the same time I ordered the pistol and found a couple of boxes of .32 S&W Long to feed it locally. Was surprisingly accurate in SA fire, and towards the end I was even getting decent with the DA fire (stage the trigger, or god help you...). Put it away for a few months, wanted to shoot it again and went on an ammo hunt.

Christ, seems like no one had any of the substitute cartridges for it anywhere in El Paso, and for awhile no one had the proper cartridges online either. Moved back to Alpine and yeah, the local store carries the substitutes but at like 1.5-2 times the price I used to find them at. The shipping and handling fees for online purchases precludes anything but bulk orders and I'm a bit bad about building up enough funds for that.

Guess its a good reason to start reloading as any...

[gyvel]

Browning BDM. Overly complicated, horrible trigger pull, die cast Zamak parts, and internal parts held in place with silicon cement.

It felt REAL good in the hand, but once I got it home and started looking closely...:barf:

[helitack32f1]

I bought one of the first Walther P22's when they came out. that was a waste of life, time, energy and money.

[ACP]

Glock 19, followed by Glock 17. Neither were reliable. And I froze them, buried them in mud, and ran over them with my Humvee, too! :(

[johnnydollar]

Kimber CDP II Compact .45 ACP. Loved the look, the feel, the 1911 aura, but it just did not work, even with the "modified" slide stop Kimber sent me "no charge".
JD

[280shooter]

i wanted one of them diamond backs for years, your lucky.. ya just cant find them,,

[280shooter]

I read everyones list of bad guns for them.. One I didnt see was FEG,, I love my little Feg, R61 in 380,, I never had a FTF, never had one issue, and I shot it for ever,..
But one thing I just cant figure out,, WHY is it, that everyone i know, who has or had a Taurus even my self. had to send it back..I dont get it,,,my buddie has bought at least 5 dif. ones. and brand new right out of the box, they had to be sent back, his 1911, shot it one time, the safety fell apart. his litte 22, had to b sent back... he bought the new 45 colt, in flat stainless..it wouldnt shoot.. no marks in the primmers,,, they sent it back fixed,,, the trigger was a dif, metal finish, the hammer was blue,, he thought im not sending it back,now it fires,,but im sure after a box of ammo,, it wont work,,I your in a business,, why not have a good product, get better quility control.
I want another small 22 wheel gun, But it wont be Taurus,

[doc2rn]

Well since my last post in '08, my biggest dissappointment of late came from a Kimber Compact 9mm. Cost a grand and shot worse than my cheap beater the FNP-9. The trend is higher cost and lower quality. Its just sad.

[csa77]

Sig Sauer p238

I tested one at my local range, absolute garbage. often wouldn't feed the first round, last rounds slide never locked back.
also racking the slide when the gun was empty the slide got stuck and wouldn't return with out a stiff push of my thumb.

it surprised the hell out of me with this gun being a Sig, always heard great reviews about Sig thought it was just a lemon....till i checked the net and saw allot of the p238s had major problems.

this gun really tarnished my perception of Sig Sauer.

[Tallinar]

EAA Bounty Hunter in .44 mag

Hammer and trigger were ridiculously heavy. Screws/pins came loose frequently when shooting even light loads or just working the action in the basement. Accuracy was acceptable, though.

A little work and some lock-tite would have probably smoothed it up fine. What can I say, I got what I paid for. I sold it the first chance I got and moved back to a Ruger.

[DC Plumber]

LMAO. I hope some of you guys are writers for ad agencies. Some pretty funny stuff. I'm not laughing at your problems, just your writing. Good stuff.

OK, I've never really been dissappointed with a gun's quality, but I've had a few that don't feel right, such as Ruger single actions.

But, I'm surprised to hear about lack of Glock quality, especially the 30. Had one, loved it. Traded it for a Colt 1911 that I loved more.

I'm also surprised to hear that someone had bad luck with a Smith and Wesson 586. Got one, will never part with it.

I never hated it, but probably the gun that I've been "least" in love with was a 1995ish Browning HiPower. Beautiful gun, very reliable, but not the best trigger, but fun to shoot.

[grant1265]

NIB Springfield XDM 9 Bitone. Shot it at 10 yards out of a gun vise.......9" group. Took out my CZ75 BD and blew out the 10 ring offhand at 15 yards. I brought the XDM back and traded it on an M&P VTAC w/ trijicon sights. Might be a while before I buy another springer.

[helitack32f1]

I had a Beretta Tomcat .32 I was happy to sell to purchase my LCP. Wasn't much impressed with the Tomcat.

[Bobson]

Springfield XD 40. I loved everything about that gun - the look, the feel, the size, the design. I wasn't disappointed in the gun, so much as I was disappointed that I hated to shoot it. I learned my lesson though. Will never buy another gun without finding a way to test it first.

[Exeter]

Tanfoglio TZ-75. Group sizes expanded and contracted for no apparent reason. Never did figure out what was going on with it.

[Jonah71]

Springfield XD 40. I loved everything about that gun - the look, the feel, the size, the design. I wasn't disappointed in the gun, so much as I was disappointed that I hated to shoot it. I learned my lesson though. Will never buy another gun without finding a way to test it first.
I just never seemed to get that comfortable with mine either. Traded in within a few weeks. It was an impulse buy (just like the CW 40 I also traded after about 750 rnds. I wanted another .40cal. And I did test fire this one. As far as .40 cals., I guess I'll just stick with the G 23. I would like another one though.

[Bobson]

Mine was a bit of an impulse buy too. I knew I wanted a handgun, and I thought I wanted a .40. It was my first handgun, and it was everything I thought I wanted in a gun, and everything I still want in my next one. No manual safety, striker fired. And Glocks don't fit me...

[chardin]

Tanfoglio TZ-75. Group sizes expanded and contracted for no apparent reason. Never did figure out what was going on with it.
Can you give details? Some group size changes are an issue for a combat pistol. Others aren't.

[Exeter]

Can you give details? Some group size changes are an issue for a combat pistol. Others aren't.

Keep in mind, we're talking ancient history, here. It was back in '80's, back before CZ started importing into the US. To the best of my recollection, at 15 yards you could anywhere between 2-4 inches or 6-8 inches with the same load and the same magazine. I remember spending a lot of time at the range trying different loads, never did find anything consistent.

For a purely defensive sidearm it would have probably been OK, but I was shooting local IPSC matches with it and since I was shooting minor anyway, the accuracy issue was a big deal for me. I sold it to a friend with full disclosure. He didn't have any better luck with it than I did and wound up trading it in on something else. We had a good laugh about it, too, because the shop that took it in trade gave him a higher trade-in value than I had paid for it NIB.

[OARNGESI]

My desert eagle 50 it just didnt live up to the hype

[elano]

Smith and wesson 915. Everything I wanted in a semi auto and reliable as they come, but I'll be damn if I can hit anything with it.

[Super Sneaky Steve]

My NAA Pug kinda sucks. I don't expect it to be like a sniper rifle but I did expect the bullets to come out of the barrel without tumbling.

Because of this trait it's worthless outside of arm's length.

[Cornhusker77]

Beretta Tomcat
The frame broke right above the trigger pin, Beretta isn't interested in fixing it even though it's a known issue they have.
Worst customer service ever.

[Ranger30-06]

EAA Witness Polymer Compact .45 ACP. The Jam-O-Matic king! Once I found some magazines that actually solved the fail to feed problem, it would only shoot factory +P loads or handloads that I loaded really hot or else it would stovepipe EVERY. SINGLE. SHOT. Total junk.

[RRBunn]

1 - I have a Raven .25, a Jennings .22 and a Rohm RG 38 ALL JUNK. I keep them to show NRA students that you get what you pay for.
2 - I have a Kimber in 10mm Love it, not a problem. (Stainless Target II)
3 - Not much on Glocks, but lots of friends have them and say they are great stuff.
4 - I have a Ruger Redhawk in .44Mag, All it needs is REAL grips or like others have said, it's a pain to shoot.
5 - I had a Blackhawk 357/9mm convertable in 1977, it would keyhold 357/38 but loved 9mm bullets. I got rid of it and I have one made 5 years ago and it shoots well. Super Blackhawk also shoots well but it's lighter then my DW and Redhawk so more felt recoil.

Thanks all, I've learned a great deal from this thread.

Rick in Alexandria

[greyling22]

a 1911. pretty nice one too. It just wasn't me. Mostly it was the caliber, but also it just wan't that good a fit for me. I ended up happy in the cz75 camp.

[joed]

+1 for the Charter Arms Bulldog, bought one new for $300. That gun was so bad the only way you could use it for self defense was to throw it at your attacker and run. Then laugh if he tried to shoot you.

It was so bad I sold it after the first trip to the range on the first day of ownership. I still cringe when I hear someone say they want one.

[joed]

On the good side a Taurus 445 in .44 Spl that I bought to replace the Bulldog. Never let me down and works great.

And I can't believe someone had bad luck with a Kimber Pro Carry II. Mine is one of my favorites, only 1911 I ever liked.

Funny how one can be bad and one can be good.

[thefamcnaj]

For me it was either the "swock" (s&w sigma 9mm) or the Taurus pt 709 slim. The sigma was a Glock wanna be with a horrible trigger pull. The pt709 slim had Ftfs ftes and a all around pos. I don't want any part of s&w or Taurus.

[jimmy245]

My worst gun: A cast steel 22 LR "Luger" look alike from Stoeger.

I too have a Stoeger .22 Luger. Quality looks good, but it is jammer. Never took it to a gunsmith since I have so many other guns to play with. I would like to see it work properly. Anybody out there have any recommendations re the jamming problem. By the way, I have tried every quality type and velocity of ammo in the thing. Nothing seems to make a difference.

Jim E

[IBEWBULL]

Detonics Pocket 9
I was rather excited about a 9mm the size of a PPK
It was heavy enough where I figured the recoil wouldn't be out of line.
It looked great.
At seven yards I would not be able to even call it a group.
I would have been happy to have 4 out of 6 0n a pie plate. But the plates are not made big enough.
No holster available at the time and the worst trigger pull ever.About 25 pounds.
Worst part was is I traded a .32 PPK Nazi marked for it.
I hope you still like it John S , I know you did when he got it from me in 96.

[Blacklabel82]

Ruger LCP....after owning many Keltecs, I thought the "smoothed out" little LCP would be nice. I unfortunately got one of the bad ones...traded one of my bersas in on it...it hurt...lol. Finally sold it and bought another p32 for the wife.

Im sure the LCP has all the bugs worked out now, so no offense to anyone! lol

[heidad01]

My Sig Sauer xo 1911 has been the worst. It came new out of the box with a loose grip pad and a lot of scratches. It was sent to sig and came back in worse shape. I have not even shot it yet.