[WhoKnowsWho]

about "How to shoot" at the used book store (I look for gun mags there) and I thumbed through it.

Shotgun sighting in... said it like this "have a friend stand downrange and look at you while you aim your shotgun at him. Your eyes should meet right over the top of the shotgun if you are aiming correctly..." :what:

So when did these gun rules come around? This book looked to be from the late 50's...

[J Miller]

I don't have a friend stupid enough to stand down range from me while I point a gun at him. Nor would I ask him too.
Even for 1950 that sounds kinda assinine to me.

[sm]

Actually the suggestion of making sure a shotgun triple checked by both parties and mounting the shotgun with eyes closed and having the 2nd person asks you to open your eyes to see relation of eye to bbl/rib is not a new one.

I have seen it referred to in many publications, not all were older publications.

Yes I have done it to check gun fit . Triple checked by both of us and a kerchief stuffed into the action. The similar results may be obtained by a mirror the user triple checking the gun, stuffing a kerchief into action , mounting a few times, then upon mounting opening eyes.

People tend to mount SGs wrong, they contort and put face to gun and think it fits . When in actual shooting the gun does not. If a SG fits a shooter correctly, and properly mounted the SG becomes a natural extension of shotgunner.

Yes 4 rules apply always. Some do not suggest/advocate this practice even with a mirror. I believe even the "Best Gun Houses" using try guns even did this.

Safety always, but I did shoot indoors as a kid in a school cafe with backstops with 22 shorts. This is what we did, we also shot live 22 ammo in gallery guns at carnivals too.

I equate it to Simunitions training, yeah 4 rules and all , but you do shoot someone and you get shot at.


Times may change, Safety , 4 rules never change.

[cslinger]

Hey Ya'll watch this.

Well I am alll for learning if I am doing it right so does anybody out there want to help a fellow THR member become a better shooter? Anybody?


While we're at it I have this idea that involves an apple and the top of your head. As long as you aren't too fidgity it could work I tell ya. :D

[lee n. field]

"Here, hold my beer."

[4v50 Gary]

Look at Greener's Story of the Gun (or History of Guns). There's an illustration of fitting a gunstock to the customer. It shows the gunsmith looking straight at the customer who is pointing a gun at him.

[JohnBT]

I've seen a picture of the same thing being done at the Holland & Holland shooting school.

John

[dandean316]

I have that book. I was going to save it for my kids because I think it's great because it simply explains the mechanics of shooting. However I must have skipped over that part about shotgun fit - I don't remember it, but it's been awhile. So, maybe it's not a good idea for kids! Seriously though, some of it is outdated, but think its a decent book overall.

[Carlos Cabeza]

This book was probably written long before the demise of common sense.

Common Sense
Today we mourn the passing of an old friend, by the name of Common Sense.
Common Sense lived a long life but died recently in the United States. No
one really knows how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost
in bureaucratic red tape. He selflessly devoted his life to service in
schools, hospitals, homes, factories helping folks get jobs done without
fanfare and foolishness. For decades, petty rules, silly laws, and frivolous
lawsuits held no power over Common Sense.
> > >
He was credited with cultivating such valued lessons as to know when to come
in out of the rain, why the early bird gets the worm, and that life isn't
always fair.
> > >
Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more
than you earn), reliable parenting strategies (the adults are in charge, not
the kids), and it's okay to come in second. A veteran of the Industrial
Revolution, the Great Depression, and the Technological Revolution, Common
Sense survived cultural and educational trends including body piercing,
whole language, and "new math."
> > >
His health declined when he became infected with the
"If-it-only-helps-one-person-it's-worth-it" virus. In recent decades his
waning strength proved no match for the ravages of well intentioned but
overbearing regulations. He watched in pain as good people became ruled by
self-seeking lawyers. His health rapidly deteriorated when schools endlessly
implemented zero-tolerance policies.
> > >
Reports of a six-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a
classmate, a teen suspended for taking a swig of mouthwash after lunch, and
a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student only worsened his
condition. It declined even further when schools had to get parental consent
to administer aspirin to a student but could not inform the parent when a
female student was pregnant or wanted an abortion.
> > >
Common Sense lost his will to live as the Ten Commandments became
contraband, churches became businesses, criminals received better treatment
than victims, and federal judges stuck their noses in everything from the
Boy Scouts to professional sports.
> > >
Finally, when people, too stupid to realize that a steaming cup of coffee
was hot, were awarded a huge settlement, Common Sense threw in the towel. As
the end neared, Common Sense drifted in and out of logic but was kept
informed of developments regarding questionable regulations such as those
for low flow toilets, rocking chairs, and stepladders.
> > >
Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust; his
wife, Discretion; his daughter, Responsibility; and his son, Reason. He is
survived by two
stepbrothers: My Rights, and Ima Whiner. Not many attended his funeral
because so few realized he was gone.

[willyjixx]

carlos pegged it.

that book was written when people were assumed to be responsible for there own actions

[narmer71]

be taken more seriously than newspapers or network news.