Help Identify This Folding Stock (and other AK questions)


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mountaindrew
March 7, 2008, 07:59 PM
I picked up this stock at a pawn shop today. It is obviously an AK style side folder, all steel with an aluminum mounting block and a plastic spacer/cube thing. It folds to the left rather than the right like Tapco, and it seem very similar to the Ace Ltd. stock but it has the hinge integral to the stock. No markings.
I also bought a grip that might or might not be from the same source, it says "Stock Options, California" and is made in USA. I think they came together because the grip had the mounting screws for the stock in its package. (the grip was is the box with the handgun grips, and the stock was is a box in the corner with other junk.

The problem is it does not fit my AK perfectly. I have a Saiga conversion, which equates to a standard stamped receiver. The mounting block is slightly small, and the holes are slightly widely spaced. I am thinking it is maybe for a Milled receiver?

Anyone know where I can get a different adapter?
Anyone have a Ace Ltd stock, and can measure the mounting holes between the mounting block and the hinge/stock? (I think That might work)

Here are some pics:

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg315/messianicdrew/guns/IM000446.jpg

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mountaindrew
March 7, 2008, 08:01 PM
Mounting Block (in folded position):

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg315/messianicdrew/guns/IM000447.jpg



Mounting screws between stock/hinge and mounting block

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg315/messianicdrew/guns/IM000448.jpg

mountaindrew
March 8, 2008, 03:49 PM
her are some bettwr pics, these are with the stock extended straight:

right side:
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg315/messianicdrew/IM000472.jpg



left side:
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg315/messianicdrew/IM000473.jpg

top:
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg315/messianicdrew/IM000475.jpg

PAC 762
March 8, 2008, 04:28 PM
I would just shim the rear block and drill rivet holes where needed.

Wolfgang2000
March 8, 2008, 04:34 PM
They are terrible stock!! Just ship it to me and I will dispose of it for you. ;):D:D

I hear they are suppose to be some of the best stocks out there. If you check around you can get different mounting blocks for the ACE stock.

Or you can just do what mountaindew said. Either way you have a good stock.

mountaindrew
March 8, 2008, 05:21 PM
Yeah, PAC 762, that is my fall back plan. it would just look bad with gaps between the block and the receiver, but it would work. I am sure I could make it strong enough to hold up. Another option is to make a block out of wood and imbed some nuts in it to mount the stock hinge.

PAC 762
March 9, 2008, 11:13 PM
...Another option is to make a block out of wood and imbed some nuts in it to mount the stock hinge.

I'm not sure if I understand, but if you're contemplating making a new rear trunnion / block out of wood, please don't. It will shatter very quickly and send the bolt carrier flying back at the shooter with possibly leathal speed.

I'm not sure how much gunsmithing experience you have, but if you haven't built more than a few AK's from kits, fitting the stock might be something to have a qualified gunsmith do.

mountaindrew
March 11, 2008, 10:39 AM
No, not the rear trunion. Basically I would make the front inch and a half of a wood stock. Just the part on a wood stock that inserts into the trunion on a stamped model. The factory trunion stays there. This in not like a yugo side folder that replaces the trunion, it is closer to the tapco folder, on which the mounting block is simple plastic. I have some dense hardwood available that should be plent strong. Ill post pics later.

By the way, I have made two a AK stocks before, so I am familiar with the shape I wil need to create. Wood working is a favorite hobby of mine.

PAC 762
March 11, 2008, 08:37 PM
Ohhhh... I understand what you're saying. Basically like sawing a fixed stock right off the rifle and bolting the stock to the wood stub.

I don't know much about wood, but there's an aweful lot of torque at that hinge area. Post picks if you get it to work.

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