U.S. Parts compliance question.


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mountaindrew
March 7, 2008, 09:09 PM
I have a converted Saiga. It is in .223 and I use modified chinese .223 mags for it. I used the Tapco trigger group (3 parts), a US pistols grip, and I made my own stock out of hardwood, so I had the required number of US parts.

I recently found a side folding stock I want to use. I beliver it is american made (due to the quality of machining, and obvioulsy aftermarket) but it is not marked anywhere, so I guess it wont count.

Questions:
Does parts count still matter since the sunset of the AWB? I cant remember which law mandated the Parts count thing. I knew the law back when I did the conversion, but I can't remember

If so, what other part can I replace to be able to use my Stock.

Thanks, Drew

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Gator
March 7, 2008, 09:25 PM
922r still applies, it has nothing to do with the AWB.

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=18530

kcmarine
March 7, 2008, 09:29 PM
The law would be U.S.C. 922(r). And yes, you will still have to change out the parts, even with the sunset of the AWB.

If you want to, post a link to the site where you found the folder. Someone here ought to know if its made in the US.

The only other thing I can think of is to ask you if you also replaced the handguard of the rifle with a U.S. made handguard. If you did, I think you're in the clear. Take that with a few grains of salt.

Ash
March 7, 2008, 09:32 PM
If the part is US made, it does count. It is fully legal. Of course, proving it is US could be the tough part. But many of the US made parts, especially some older parts, are not US marked at all. That gave rise to many complaints and so US parts are pretty clearly marked these days, so well marked that you can see the US stamp without taking most firearms apart.

Ash

mountaindrew
March 7, 2008, 10:08 PM
Here are the details on the stock. :

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=345938

I bought it at a pawn shop, so I don't know where it came from. I suspect it is an older American aftermarket stock

And no, kept the hand guard. I really like the Saiga front hand guard better than any of the US make ones

Ash
March 7, 2008, 10:39 PM
Hmmm....

I'm not sure about that one. It doesn't really look like any commie side-folder I have seen, but it does kind of look like a Galil stock. Indeed, I think it might be an Israeli-made folder - though I could be wrong.

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as23-e.htm

Ash

BlackBearME
March 8, 2008, 12:34 AM
If you want to be able to use the stock, and you determine that the folder is foreign made, you will still need another part for 922 compliance, assuming you intend to use foreign mags. If you were going to use domestic mags, you'd be fine with that stock.

If you do end up going with the folder, and want to keep the foreend, I think your only other replacement option would be a gas piston. I'm pretty sure you can easily find a US Made gas piston. You can certainly find more info here (http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showforum=22). Also, I don't know how easy it would be, but another option might be to make floor plates for the mags - that would bring your count back down to 10.

coltcollector
March 16, 2008, 11:10 AM
That looks a lot like the folder that came on my "Hesse" Arms Galil .223. Only worse. Both of them came from some American garage workshop. Not military as it would not hold up. Get the Tapco folder for less than $50 and looks better.

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