Enlighten me on the CZ P01


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Nikon777
March 8, 2008, 06:32 PM
Reliability?
Recoil?
Size compared to Glock 19?

Just sold my 19, looking for a replacement.

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Gary G23
March 8, 2008, 08:06 PM
Mine has been 100%.
No more noticeable recoil than any other 9mm I've shot.
About the same size but slightly chunkier. Still easy to carry.

schmeky
March 8, 2008, 08:10 PM
I had a G19. . . didn't connect with it. I shot a couple thousand rounds through it, just never was a good fit for me. Reliable and pretty easy to conceal. Sold it, but still have a G17.

I think you'll be pleased, maybe even thrilled a P-01. I'm not a big DA/SA fan, but CZ's can be carried cocked/locked. I strongly suggest a Wolf 15# mainspring.

My SP-01 is so accurate, it's not a question of if I'll hit my target (within reasonable defensive ranges), but where I want to hit the target.

vzenmn
March 8, 2008, 08:14 PM
Your life will never be complete until you own at least one CZ.

Go buy you one. All the cool kids do it.

jlbraun
March 8, 2008, 08:23 PM
Reliability: 2600 rounds of 9mm with no cleaning or lube. No failures of any kind. One bad primer that resisted multiple strikes.

Recoil: Low bore axis and metal construction plus 9mm = low recoil.

Size: Thicker than a 19, but fills the hand better.

A P01 does not lend itself to slingshot racking as the serrations are too small for that (slide inside frame instead of outside frame like Glock).

Treo
March 8, 2008, 08:46 PM
QUOTE: "Your life will never be complete until you own at least one CZ"

Yeah, like anyone owns just one CZ.

go get it

JDGray
March 8, 2008, 09:00 PM
The P01 is the same width as far as frame, and slide, however the grip is wider side to side, but slimmer frt to back. Recoil is about the same as the G19. My P01 fits well in my G23 holster, but the decock lever spreads it a bit at the back. The trigger reach in DA is way longer than the Glock, so you better go find one in a gun store, and try it on. CZs are very reliable, great choice for a ccw:)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b278/JDG357/IMG_2496.jpg

bikerdoc
March 8, 2008, 09:09 PM
not only will your life be complete you will get taller, lose wgt, and be better looking- it will be the first but not the last

vzenmn
March 8, 2008, 09:47 PM
QUOTE: "Your life will never be complete until you own at least one CZ"

Yeah, like anyone owns just one CZ.



I only own one (says the poor college student who is franticly trying to save up for a 75 Compact and 452).

People who own CZs on average live 20% longer then people who don't and CZs also improve your sex life. 9 out of ten hot super models find a CZ owner more attractive then a Glock owner and are seeking out CZ owners for a partner.I got these statistics from a very reliable source but I do not remember where.

piranha45
March 8, 2008, 09:52 PM
I want to be a CZ when I grow up!

Technosavant
March 8, 2008, 09:58 PM
1) Reliability: Thus far, absolute.
2) Recoil: Negligible. Compared to a nice and heavy full size 1911 in .45ACP, it's practically a .22.
3) Size: Can't compare it to a G19, but it is just big enough to fill the hand (many compact guns can be too small to hold well), but small enough to hide extremely easily.

The only thing about it that I don't love is the trigger pull, but then again, I'm no huge fan of DA pulls. SA is nice, but not awesome.

I highly recommend the P-01.

armoredman
March 8, 2008, 10:17 PM
Sheesh...layin' it on think, are we?
Note, the CZ PO1 and CZ PCR compacts cannot be carried cocked and locked - they are decocker equipped. The steel frame CZ-75 Compact has a standard safety, and can be carried either DA or SA.
My P01 is outstanding, the sidearm I bet my life on every day. Works well with whatever I feed it, and is a pleasure to shoot.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/silverplatter2.jpg

Nikon777
March 8, 2008, 10:48 PM
So far so good. Im starting to lose the regret I felt by selling the 19.

Sans Authoritas
March 8, 2008, 11:00 PM
You won't regret it. The feel of the 75-style grip in your hand and the superior pointability (for many hand shapes, anyway) is all it should take to convince you. And it only gets better from there. Has a good heft to it, and unlike a Glock, you'll be hard-pressed to notice it get lighter with each round you fire. I have a high regard for Glocks, but the ergonomics just aren't there for me.
-Sans Authoritas

EOD Guy in VA
March 8, 2008, 11:21 PM
Mine has been 100% reliable and love the ergonomics.

grimjaw
March 9, 2008, 01:09 AM
Reliability?

My G19 has been more reliable out of the box than my CZ P-01. However, the P-01 has only had FTF on some really crappy "NATO" 124gr ADCOM FMJ. Most times, the failure consists of the cartridge stuck halfway in the chamber. Forward assist gets it in the rest of the way. With better ammo and/or more attention to maintenance, there are no issues. This is compared directly to the G19, which has eaten 1500+ rounds of this ADCOM stuff like candy.

Recoil?

My impression is that there is more upward muzzle flip with the CZ compared to the G19. Just enough to be different, not enough to make much of a difference shot to shot.

Size compared to Glock 19?

Darned near the same. I had the G19 first, and the CZ fits in the same holsters, albeit a bit tightly.

I'd have a hard time letting either of them go. I really like the CZ, but the G19 gets more use.

jm

Treo
March 9, 2008, 01:57 AM
I heard that owning a CZ cures male pattern baldness, as well as erectile dysfunction.

yhtomit
March 9, 2008, 03:31 AM
JDgray -- thanks for that pic, amazing just how close in size they are. (I would have guessed the Glock quite a bit smaller.) I also would not have guessed how much shorter the trigger reach is on the Glock!

timothy

The Lone Haranguer
March 9, 2008, 11:25 AM
Mine is a PCR Compact (essentially the same gun but without a light rail), sufficiently comparable that we can draw conclusions from it.

Reliability?
Recoil?
Size compared to Glock 19?

Except for one failure to feed a JHP in its first 100 rounds, and a later problem with failures to eject only with Blazer aluminum (I am going to call ammo incompatibility on those), very good. The last 500 rounds - 100 of which were JHPs - have been perfect.

No real difference - better or worse - from any other lightweight 9mm I've shot.

Very close in size. The Glock is a little shorter - perhaps half an inch - from the bottom of magazine floorplate to the top of the slide. The CZ's slide is slimmer and more rounded, as is the grip. The reach to the DA trigger (no cocked-and-locked option on this decocker model) is longer. This is mitigated somewhat by the fact that the trigger stroke begins with the hammer already about one-third cocked. The slide fits very low in the frame, has smaller/finer grasping serrations and is a little more difficult to grasp for quick racking.

P. Plainsman
March 9, 2008, 11:31 AM
My P01's at around 2,300 rounds now. A lot of that was hot +P.

It's never failed to feed and fire any brass-cased ammo.

I ran one 50 round box of Blazer aluminum case 115 gr ball through it a few months ago and did got a few feeding problems. My CZ 75B (3,500 rounds) is the same way: dead reliable with all brass ammo tried, but jams with aluminum Blazer.

I regard CZs as not cleared for use with aluminum case ammo. Otherwise they're excellent.

Seven High
March 9, 2008, 11:35 AM
I have a CZ PCR also. It will not feed Remington UMC rounds. I believe that the crimp was not properly set at the factory. Something else to look at is the curvy trigger. After extended firing it can irritate your trigger finger. A straighter trigger can be fitted for $85.00 from CZ.

armoredman
March 9, 2008, 12:49 PM
I have owned my CZ PO1 for a few years now, and have used a Glock 19 professionally for over 6 years now. I can state that I have had Glocks fail on me personally 300% more than my PO1 - three times at qualification versus none with factory ammo- managed to get my PO1 to jam with badly done first time reloads. Glocks just don't fit me - and I remember being all excited when they first came into the country, had to have one. Nope.

vzenmn
March 9, 2008, 02:06 PM
My 75b had problems with UMC also.

Nikon777
March 9, 2008, 04:05 PM
Thanks for that comparison pic, thats what Ive been looking for. They seem almost identical.

Calhoun
March 9, 2008, 08:09 PM
As far as size goes, they are close enough in size that the p-01 will share many holsters with the G19.

jlbraun
March 9, 2008, 08:18 PM
I ran one 50 round box of Blazer aluminum case 115 gr ball through it a few months ago and did got a few feeding problems. My CZ 75B (3,500 rounds) is the same way: dead reliable with all brass ammo tried, but jams with aluminum Blazer.

9mm aluminum case Blazer will jam my P01, my Sig 226, and my buddy's Glock 17. Blazer ammo as a whole sucks.

Rayden
March 9, 2008, 10:17 PM
I have about only 300 rounds with my P-01, so far so good.

robctwo
March 10, 2008, 01:15 AM
My P-01 rides around in my car in a fanny pack. It's there for carry, in the pack or with a belt holster. I was shooting some other guns today and ran into some reloads that didn't have enough oomph to cycle the slide on the 1911 9mm, so I pulled out the P-01 to give them a try. Very nice. Not as good for target accuracy like 3" at 25 yards, but could hit 6" at 25 yds pretty consistently, and the misses were all in the torso. I ran through 100 fairly quick with good results. Good enough DA trigger and very nice SA with fairly short reset.

Luis Leon
March 10, 2008, 01:20 AM
Great little pistol, there is a lot of info on them just keep digging. But be forewarned, if you like the P01 you might start looking at the other CZs. The P01 was my first CZ75 pistol, now I own four, you will hear many tales of woe like mine. CZs are good values and solid shooters.

CZ452 American .22 lr (first CZ rifle)
CZ527 in 7.62x39mm
CZ75 P01, CZ75BD, CZ75B and CZ75 kadet kit (.22 lr)

beware of CZs!

Good luck in your search

lanternlad1
March 10, 2008, 01:37 AM
I have one suggestion regarding ammo for the P01:

STAY AWAY FROM ALUMINUM CASED AMMO!

My P01 HATES Blazer aluminum cased ammo. FTEs and stovepipes like crazy, have had no other problems with any other ammo. Glad to see I'm not the only one with alum. ammo problems.

I like mine, but I would trade it for a Glock 19. My wife can't rack it - the slide is narrow at the top and difficult to get a grip on. I have problems gripping the slide myself. Thats the only drawback I've had. Otherwise, its a great gun.

P. Plainsman
March 10, 2008, 03:51 AM
The P-01 fits well in some holsters for the HK USP Compact. I use a Galco OWB Concealment for the USP Compact to carry my CZ. Fits like a glove.

Trigger reach is the one serious issue to watch in comparing the P-01 to the G19. Glock is shorter and some people will really appreciate that. I have a buddy with stubby hands who simply cannot use DA trigger CZs for that reason. He uses Glocks and swears by them.

If you have at least average sized hands and length of fingers you should be fine with a P-01. I love the pistol's ergonomics.

I also agree with lanternlad1 that the CZ slide configuration may be an issue for some. The slide rides on rails inside the pistol frame, not crimped to the outside. Some attribute the CZs' excellent accuracy to this. But it can cause problems if you seek to rack the slide in "approved gun school fashion" by arching the support hand over the top of the slide and jerking it back.

The traditional steel-frame CZs like the 75B aren't too troublesome on this score. The sides of the frame are flush with the sides of the slide. However, the P-01 has an aluminum alloy frame. For strength's sake (contributing to the little pistol's rep for toughness) the frame protrudes on the sides past the sides of the slide. Makes the slide seem narrow. Combine that with the relatively short slide length and the tightly-sprung slide (it's a compact pistol), and it becomes hard to operate the slide effectively in "gun school" fashion. Unless you're strong, you may need to use the fingers and thumb of your support hand in "slingshot" manner to rack the slide back and load or clear the chamber, if you are manipulating a gun that begins with the slide in battery. (In normal use you never have to mess with this because the slide hold-open at the end of the magaizine takes care of things.)

Great pistols but they have their quirks.

The Lone Haranguer
March 10, 2008, 10:35 AM
The P-01 fits well in some holsters for the HK USP Compact. I use a Galco OWB Concealment for the USP Compact to carry my CZ. Fits like a glove.
I also find that the PCR fits well in leather holsters for the SIG P228/229. The P-01 should fit in those as well. On the packaging for the Galco Summer Comfort, it shows the 01 as an alternative.

TimM
March 10, 2008, 11:34 AM
I know other CZs can be carried cocked and locked but I was told that the P01 could not because it was a decocker only model. Is that correct? I was wanting one very badly but if it can't be carried coked I am not interested.

jwxspoon
March 10, 2008, 11:40 AM
I don't have a P-01 but I do have a CZ75 Compact in Satin Nickel, which is a fantastic weapon. Very similar in shape and size to the P-01. Virtually no recoil. CAN be carried cocked and locked.
http://www.imageseek.com/hakan/albums/customers/Craig_sCompact75_Cocobolos1.thumb.jpg

This one is not mine, but it's the same pistol.

jw

Pilot
March 10, 2008, 11:52 AM
I also find that the PCR fits well in leather holsters for the SIG P228/229.

X2. I carry my CZ-75D PCR in a Bianchi Shadow II holster designed for the Sig P228/P229. Never tried a P-01, but the muzzle area does look similar in size to my Sig P228, so I would bet it will fit.

Technosavant
March 10, 2008, 12:40 PM
I know other CZs can be carried cocked and locked but I was told that the P01 could not because it was a decocker only model. Is that correct? I was wanting one very badly but if it can't be carried coked I am not interested.

The P-01 has no provision for C&L carry; it has a decocker, not a safety. For that, look at the CZ 75 Compact; same size and everything, but removes the accessory rail and replaces the decocker with a safety for C&L capability.

JDGray
March 10, 2008, 12:46 PM
The P-01 has no provision for C&L carry; it has a decocker, not a safety. For that, look at the CZ 75 Compact; same size and everything, but removes the accessory rail and replaces the decocker with a safety for C&L capability.


The guns are the same length and height, but the heavier 75 compact is quite a bit more narrow, especially the muzzle:)

TimM
March 10, 2008, 01:20 PM
Thanks for the info.

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