Glock 36 or alternative


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mewachee
March 10, 2008, 12:52 AM
In the next week, I am going to pick up a HD pistol. I am leaning heavily toward the G 36. My buddy shoots a 40 S&W, he likes the G-26. This is a utilitarian gun.

Purposes are:
1. Comfortable conceal carry.
2. Sturdy, this gun will get abuse.
3. I will not shoot less than a .40 caliber.
4. Every day carry.


I want to know why this is the pistol for me. If you don't think it is, then please detail why?

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mewachee
March 10, 2008, 12:56 AM
If you disagree with the G-36, but have a better alternative, tell me why. This is my first auto.

sfmittels
March 10, 2008, 01:49 AM
I can't argue against a G36, owning one myself. However, I would suggest you factor in a few other considerations.

1) Maybe we're talking semantics here, but in your first sentence you call your choice "an HD pistol" - generally, "HD" denotes "home defense". However, in your explanatory points, you go on to describe the characteristics of a concealed carry weapon; sometimes called a "CCW". There are HUGE distinctions between a weapon meant for HD and a weapon meant for CCW. An HD weapon should be chosen less for size, weight and capacity, and more for firepower and ancillary attachments (e.g.: weaponlights, laser sights).

2) As stated, I own a G36 along with several other Glocks. I bought my G36 from a co-worker who simply couldn't get it to shoot reliably for him, yet I had no problems with it. We compared our shooting stances, and we decided his style caused sufficient elbow flexing as to almost replicate limp-wristing. The G36 does not like to be limp-wristed. I would suggest you attempt to borrow or rent one and put about 100 rounds through it to make sure it will be 100% reliable for you.

3) How well-trained and experienced are you with a Glock, and how much are you willing to train? I love Glocks and feel perfectly comfortable carrying one concealed. However, IMO, the Glock is the most dangerous CCW weapon there is for the uninitiated. That 5.5 pound, 3/8" trigger pull is the only "safety" you've got. If you screw up the manual of arms, particularly during re-holstering, you can put a .45 caliber hole in your lower extremities.

4) Who else besides yourself will have access to it? If you are going to give it double-duty and also have it standing by as an HD weapon, all the considerations in point #3 apply equally to anyone else who may have access to it.

Bottom line: if you want a great concealed carry weapon with small but adequate capacity and .45 ACP power, a G36 is hard to beat. But you really, really need to know what you're doing.

GunNut
March 10, 2008, 02:03 AM
First gun......I'd probably go with a .40s&w Glock 23. It's more likely to be trouble free for a hangun Newfie and it holds more rounds.

denfoote
March 10, 2008, 05:28 AM
My HD gun is the G36.

Lobotomy Boy
March 10, 2008, 08:59 AM
I own both a 36 and a 26 (which, btw, is a 9mm--the 27 is .40 cal.). Both guns are great, and I carry both regularly. I carry the 26, which is fatter, in the winter and carry the slim 36 in the summer, when I wear lighter clothes. I don't use either for home defense--I have a full-size Glock 21 for that.

Any of the guns are fine choices. I elected to go with .45 ACP instead of .40 S&W because it's a lower pressure round and there have been some questions about the Glock's design when it comes to a high pressure round like the .40 cal. It might be nonsense, but since I prefer .45 ACP anyway, I figured why take a chance?

When it comes to a slim, light, reliable, accurate single-stack .45, there are no alternatives to the 36--it's in a class by itself--but for .40 cal. or 9mm, there are lots of alternatives. The XD45 wasn't available when I bought my 21, but I have one now and prefer it to my Glock.

I plan to get a .40 cal., but probably won't go with Glock. I might not even go with a polymer gun--I'm leaning towards a Sig 239 SAS.

emb
March 10, 2008, 09:04 AM
Glock is now offering the 30 (.45) in a slim frame. It is a 10 yd double stack and can also use the higher capacity mags. This months (next?) Combat Handguns had a nice article.

Lobotomy Boy
March 10, 2008, 11:22 AM
The slim frame on the 30 would be an ideal weapon. If it's thin enough, it might replace my 36.

GunNut
March 10, 2008, 11:46 AM
The 30SF will be no thinner than the 30. It will only be shorter front to back, offering a shorter trigger reach.

For thin you need to stick to the 36.

JDGray
March 10, 2008, 12:52 PM
The G36 is a great weapon, and Glocks slimmest offering. My only gripe with them is the mag pinches my pinky while firing. That and the ultra low capacity:D

mewachee
March 13, 2008, 02:36 AM
How about the xd's? I totally missed this one.

DawgFvr
March 13, 2008, 11:55 AM
+1 on the G36. See...that is the one area that is a plus for bottom feeders...it is very easy/quick to drop/slap in a new mag if needed. I think the capacity on the 36 would be fine for non-military/LEO work.

jocko
March 13, 2008, 12:09 PM
I thought I read where the Glock SF stood for "short frame" not slim frame. might be wrong there to..

JDGray
March 13, 2008, 07:25 PM
I thought I read where the Glock SF stood for "short frame" not slim frame. might be wrong there to..

You are correct. The G36 is a stand alone gun, the slimmest they have. SF is the new short frame 45. Heres a pic of a G36 & a G23
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b278/JDG357/G36004.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b278/JDG357/G36001.jpg

SAWBONES
March 13, 2008, 09:22 PM
I own two each G36s and G30s, not to mention a G21 and several 9mm Glocks.
I choose the G36 for CCW. The G30SF holds insufficient attraction for me.

Just hold your G36 solidly or you can get failures to feed. It's a powerful little package.
A compact (CCO or Commander) 1911 may be somewhat more reliable, but is notably heavier.

ARS1911
March 13, 2008, 10:12 PM
I carry a G36 everyday and shoot it often and have never had any problem with it. In my mind it is the perfect size and caliber ccw pistol ever made. not to mention very accurate for a short barreled gun.

chauncey
March 15, 2008, 10:02 PM
+1 on a G36. great gun.

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