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armoredman
March 11, 2008, 02:49 PM
This mornings range shoot had good and bad, great groups with one cast 124gr load, (including one I did strictly DA only, and vaporized the center of the target...I like that!), and then another that smoked, barked, sprayed everywhere, and left some nice leading behind. We won't be playing with THAT load again. (Edited to correct grain weight of load, oops.) The disgusting? This range is free, public, unsupervised, and really a decent place to shoot. There is a guy who comes out from the city every morning to clean up, too. Three rifle bays, one about 200 yards long, and two pistol bays, all with tall backstop, and if that wasn't enough, a mountain behind that!
About a month ago, the city decided to add to it, and in the two pistol bays, plus the two other rifle bays, they added concrete pads, with nice sturdy covers, and concrete benchs. Nice work, took some money.
AND SOME DIRTDOG USED A BRAND NEW BENCH FOR TARGET PRACTICE!!! Concrete and labor ain't cheap, and they took potshots at one of the new pistol bay benches, leaving large chunks knocked away, holes in the cinderblock supports, and me with even less faith in humanity. We will end up with a supervised range soon, with security, and we will end up paying for it, all because of stupid idiotic morons.
Sometimes I think the only good people are my dogs.

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Eric F
March 11, 2008, 02:53 PM
Just goes to show that we are our own worst enemies!

kfranz
March 11, 2008, 02:58 PM
Just goes to show that we are our own worst enemies!


There is no collective "we" as gun owners. In this case, some idiot shot up someone else's property. That he and I (and you) all own guns does not make us "we". He/She is our enemy.

hanno
March 11, 2008, 03:16 PM
Sounds like a truly nice range. It is a shame there is some bottom of the gene pool dreg that has to ruin things for others.

TEDDY
March 11, 2008, 03:31 PM
we as responsible gun owners MUST police our own.If you see some one like that turn them in.course most dont do it before witnesses.:fire:-:banghead:

armoredman
March 11, 2008, 03:48 PM
hanno, it is still a very nice range, and everyone I have met there has been very friendly and kind. It's probably drunken kids sneaking out there at night, dagnabbit. There is talk of a night watchman.

highorder
March 11, 2008, 04:00 PM
Quote:
Just goes to show that we are our own worst enemies!

There is no collective "we" as gun owners. In this case, some idiot shot up someone else's property. That he and I (and you) all own guns does not make us "we". He/She is our enemy.

amen to that. Too many times I have been having a discussion with anti's or fence sitters, wishing I didn't have the "help" of another gun owner in the conversation.

"they" tend to make comments like;

I dont care what the law says, I'm killin' somebody that comes on my property"

"if it were legal to own machineguns, people would be smokin' deers with um."

there are more, I'm sure.

bogie
March 11, 2008, 04:02 PM
Heck, the PRIVATE CLUB that I'm a member at has folks who shoot the target frames... And anything else downrange. And then I suspect some of the same folks grouch when there's notes about it in the club newsletter...

Eric F
March 11, 2008, 04:08 PM
That he and I (and you) all own guns does not make us "we". He/She is our enemy. Thats fine with me also I was just using We as meaning all gun owners because we all own guns. some of us choose to be irresponsible, I agree that the irresponsible gun owners are a problem for the rest of us. Thats all I was saying. I understand your point.

kingpin008
March 11, 2008, 05:06 PM
Let's hope some of the concrete knocked off of the benches bounced back and caught the responsible party (or parties) in a sensitive area - you know, so they won't be able to breed more idiots who can't respect property that isn't theirs.

ojibweindian
March 11, 2008, 05:11 PM
Sometimes I think the only good people are my dogs.

We're on the same page.

AKCOP
March 11, 2008, 05:20 PM
Slobs like this will be the death of public shooting ranges. We have the same problem at our county range. Not a week after a large upgrade in benches and backstops last year the place was shot up and trashed. We actually had someone with a fullauto of some type, expend a very large number of rounds to see if he could cut through a 12 inch red pine.
I'm sorry my post really serves no purpose but I feel beter getting it out of my system.

floydster
March 11, 2008, 05:28 PM
I live in Central Minn. in Sherburne county, two years ago the county built a real nice rifle and pistol range
on a refuge close by my home. After they opened it, it was not long and the people shot the piss out of everything, that took about thwo months, now it's all closed up, the county spent $75,000 on the range.
They were going to supervision at the time but could not come up with the additional money.
It was a really nice range, so that is how it is here.
I am not happy!!!

NG VI
March 11, 2008, 05:32 PM
12. Theft or vandalism will NOT be tolerated - SURVIVORS WILL BE PROSECUTED!

My new range's policy.

bloodedsky
March 11, 2008, 06:02 PM
"The more I see of Mankind, the more I prefer my dog."

~Blaise Pascal

BruceRDucer
March 11, 2008, 07:03 PM
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Of course, the wise-acre who said that was gunned down in an alley too, but what else wouldja expect?:uhoh:

armoredman
March 11, 2008, 07:49 PM
AKCOP, your post served the purpiose of showing yet another example of how fools and idiots, those who expect the world handed to them, destroy things without thought to consequence, maybe because they know there won't be any. Fortunately, only the one bench was hammered, and it's actually still useable, just really ugly. I wish the slobs who did it could be punished, but I think it's not even a hefty fine for damage like that. I worry they will get drunk/high/bored, come back, and destroy more, including the really nice canvas covers over the other shooting positions.

yhtomit
March 11, 2008, 08:03 PM
Same thing happened at the tax-funded / open access range I most often shoot at. Shotguns, in that case -- just destroyed as much of the range's targets stands as they could, over a period of weeks. Shells everywhere. That range was shut down for a while, and later reopened with some nice new ones. So far they have not been destroyed, and I hope they last another few months against the vandals.

timothy

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