[Combat-wombat]

http://tadgear.com/edged%20tools/tad_gear_titanium_dog_tags.htm

What do you think of these? I think that it could be used as a last ditch weapon. That and it's just plain cool. This is a folder, right? Are there any legal issues with carrying it in Kalifornia?

[hso]

Very Matt Helm!

[Joe Demko]

Wear one of these instead. (http://www.agrussell.com/agrussell/aghs8a.html) They are very light, very sharp, in a more useful shape, and inexpensive too.

[Combat-wombat]

That is a fixed-blade, and there are legal issues in Kali. I want something I legally can carry concealed.

[CWL]

I seem to recall that you are a minor, as such, laws don't apply to you the same way as it would to an adult regarding edged weapons/fixed blades.

This means that you are probably in trouble if caught with a concealed weapon. The above is obviously a weapon.

[Combat-wombat]

CWL: Not true. Kalifornia has no age-specific laws. I can not carry a fixed blade concealed (it's fine if it's open carry), but i can conceal any folder I want, no length restrictions, concealed (provided it's not a switchblade).

[Skunkabilly]

CW, I'd find another form of back up weapon, preferably a more benign looking PC one, or something that isn't a 'weapon' altogether....that thingy looks like it'll land you in deep doo-doo.

[CWL]

Hey C-W,

Like I originally said, I think that you are a minor, and as such, laws apply to you differently. You do not want to be caught with a blade in school zones and such. "No tolerance" applies directly to you.

Someting like a titanium dogtag would be slow to deploy, and not as much as a deterrence as one may think. More downside than up in any situation.

[Navy joe]

Let's see, looks tacticool, made of unobtanium, has no ability to be employed the way a knife should be which is stabbing.

If there is a need for a back-up weapon you would be much better served by any of the Swiss army knives that have a locking blade. Why?

-You will use the knife everyday.
-It's socially acceptable.
-Excellent quality to price ratio.

[Prodigalshooter]

The Ti edged dog tags are real good for one thing; seperating you from your $$ and paying some knifemakers light bill.:p
Not that there's anything wrong with that! :evil:

[JShirley]

Humbug.

I wouldn't mind a custom sword with a titanium spine, but I do NOT want a titanium edge. Titanium doesn't hold a very good cutting edge.

Don?

[Sir Galahad]

The best hideout knife is another knife. Period. No gadgets or subterfuges. Something quick to zip out of hiding and into action. You can keep a folder clipped to each pocket. Before I'd be using a dogtag knife, I'd be all about biting the guy's fingers off if it was a last-ditch struggle. Think that's funny? Look into how many people get admitted to the ER with bites from human beings. More than you think. The thing is to use the primary blade to where you don't need the hideout. In some practices, the hideout is the one you can pull without being observed. There are places an assisted opener, like the Kershaw Boa or Blackout, can be hidden on one's person to where it will be in action and drawing blood before the opponent even realizes it's in your hand. As such, the hideout provides you with an instant advantage if surprised until you can draw the primary weapon. Or, even better, the primary knife IS the hideout. Gamblers, in the 1800s, perfected the hideouts and you can learn lots by reading where they hid weapons and how they deployed them and when. Hideouts can also be placed in such a manner as they can be palmed without notice. An axis lock Benchmade, for example, you can loosen the pin to where it will open by gravity by pulling back on the axis button. You palm knife, hide it behind leg and open blade without being seen. Guy attacks you and zing, where did that come from he thinks. A CRKT can be opened in this manner too, as can the Kershaw assisted openers. Usually with hideouts, your voice is calm and low and trying to talk your way out of the situation and finding an out to get away while your hand is preparing that hideout in case the guy won't let you get away and decides he'd much rather kill you instead. Voice buys you time or an escape. This is how hideouts work. They're not knives to escape detection during a search, they're knives to hide on one's person---legally, which is why I say folders---to be at the ready for either hand to palm away without detection. Some will disagree with this method. This is NOT a suggestion to do these things. Ths is merely an informational anecdote about how gamblers in the 1800s did things and is for entertainment value only.

[JShirley]

I reckon if I am forced to deploy a knife in action I have mightily screwed up if my attacker knows I even have a knife before he's bleeding.

John, skeptical of "deterrent value" of knives or any weapon

[Sir Galahad]

Precisely so. This is the advantage of the true "hideout"---it's out and working and when attacker notices it, it's too late for him to do anything about it.

[45R]

Save your money...

CW for the price of that small peice of Titanium you can probably get a nicer peice from Benchmade called a Benchmite or a Chris Reeves blade.

If you need a back up for a last ditch effort just pack 2. Double Axis lock deployment or double wave deployment is pretty impressive..........