Anyone had a chance to shoot the new NRA Mini-14?


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armoredman
March 12, 2008, 11:39 AM
I am wondering if anyone has had an opportunity to compare the new NRA Mini-14 with the short heavy barrel, against a 580 series with the longer thin barrel, for accuracy? I am thinking of getting my barrel cut and crowned when I get my political payoff money, if it doesn't swirl down the drain for stupid things. Is it worth it?
So, any word? :)

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foghornl
March 12, 2008, 12:00 PM
I'm thinking about one of those, too; however, the only place I have seen one is on Ruger's website....

armoredman
March 12, 2008, 12:30 PM
There is a gent on TFL who is advertising one for $750 or so, wish I had the $.

silverlance
March 12, 2008, 01:25 PM
750?
I'm sold.
I'll buy an NRA Mini for 750.

ArmedBear
March 12, 2008, 01:39 PM
I wouldn't buy one.

It's blued. It's my understanding that the oprod can get frozen on the gas port extension if you don't keep them cleaned and oiled.

No thanks. My stainless model requires the least babying of any firearm I own, and keeps on shooting. That's its forte, IMO.

And I don't think it's a heavier barrel than the current, less-expensive stainless Ranch Rifle.

ckay
March 12, 2008, 04:09 PM
Thanks for the heads up!

Ratshooter
March 12, 2008, 07:05 PM
Ruger calls the new barrel the "Flared Barrel" and its on the NRA edition. It is heavier than the standard barrel. Ruger said all guns shipped in 2008 will have the larger barrel.

I have been waiting to look at one but no one has any in stock in my area. I wonder what price increase will be tacked on for the new gun?

TimboKhan
March 12, 2008, 07:23 PM
It's my understanding that the oprod can get frozen on the gas port extension if you don't keep them cleaned and oiled.


Yup, happened to me on my mini. It was easy and simple to fix, but it was unexpected. To keep it from happening, I gave the oprod a very thin (and I mean as thin as I could get it) coat of the graphite grease I use on my autos, and it seems to have solved that problem.

pbrktrt
March 12, 2008, 08:24 PM
and you get two 20 round mags with it. short, heavier barrel, should be a good combo. time will tell.

Ash
March 12, 2008, 08:30 PM
Well, I would think lubrication would not be something to condemn. AR's, after all, must be lubricated or they don't work well.

Ash

Dave Markowitz
March 12, 2008, 08:32 PM
It's blued. It's my understanding that the oprod can get frozen on the gas port extension if you don't keep them cleaned and oiled

A light coat of oil will prevent this.

hitbackfirst
March 12, 2008, 10:07 PM
I wonder how this new NRA Mini-14 with the heavier barrel (no more overheating problems?) and 20 round mags will compare to the M4? Prices should be fairly close to an entry-level M4... $750 - $850.

Jason_G
March 12, 2008, 11:15 PM
Well, I would think lubrication would not be something to condemn. AR's, after all, must be lubricated or they don't work well.

Ash
Yeah, but lubricant in a gas system is a general no-no.

Jason

ArmedBear
March 13, 2008, 01:20 AM
A light coat of oil will prevent this.

That's nice, but I'll take the Mini that doesn't have the problem, especially for 100 bucks less.

Andrewsky
March 13, 2008, 03:54 AM
The mags are marked LE/Gov't only.:banghead::banghead:

Ash
March 13, 2008, 08:49 AM
That's because they were made during the AWB and had to be labeled as such.

Ash

armoredman
March 13, 2008, 10:00 AM
No, actually they are still being made and marked this way, and Ruger sells them only to LE. Still. The only way to get factory fresh 20 round mags is to buy the NRA Mini-14. Hopefully they will change thier minds soon.

Ash
March 13, 2008, 10:08 AM
Ah, so noted.

Ash

kwelz
March 13, 2008, 12:07 PM
We get in Factory 20 Round Mags for Mini 14s. They are expensive but open to sale for anyone not just LE.

Ratshooter
March 13, 2008, 03:03 PM
Cheaper Than Dirt has the 20 round Ruger factory mags listed in their catalog for $50.00. No restrictions on who can buy them.

Spyvie
March 13, 2008, 04:28 PM
I just bought one but I haven't shot it yet...

armoredman
March 14, 2008, 11:08 PM
Yes, I know they are available to everyone, if you want to pay the money, but Ruger themselves do not sell to civilians. They are out there, and high priced due to that restriction.
Dagnabbit.

meef
March 14, 2008, 11:18 PM
Cheaper Than Dirt has the 20 round Ruger factory mags listed in their catalog for $50.00. No restrictions on who can buy them.And at that they think they're doing you a favor.

I just bought a basket of MagPul 30 round mags for $15 each and love 'em.

Ruger... go pound sand.

:mad:

Spyvie
March 14, 2008, 11:41 PM
meef, -How do those MagPuls work? Are they plastic?

M1 Shooter
March 15, 2008, 12:21 AM
Rumor has it that Ruger will be offering the 20 rounders to civilians later this year. They will probably still not be much if any cheaper than they are now though. For example, they want $25 for just a 5 round Mini magazine.

Also, C Products is supposed to be releasing their Mini-14 hi-caps soon. They seem to have a good reputation with their AR mags, so there is a good chance their Mini-14 mags will be good too.

Another totally unsubstantiated rumor is that Magpul may make PMags for the Mini-14 and Mini-30 if there is enough demand for them.

So there you have it. If you want more affordable hi-caps for your Mini that work, then you need to hound these companies to produce them.

Ratshooter
March 15, 2008, 12:36 AM
And at that they think they're doing you a favor.

HAHA thats funny meef. I live about 20 miles from the Ft Worth store(are there more?) and go by there every once in a while. They have some unusual stuff you don't find just anywhere. I sometimes wonder what the price of dirt is after leaving.

And yepppers 50 bucks is more than my allowance and reason allow me to pay. I don't have a Mini-14 but do like the new ones with the heavier barrel. I am sure wanting to look at one. I hope somebody gets a report posted soon. Hopefully somebody who's shot the old style so we can get a good side by side comparison.

meef
March 15, 2008, 03:08 AM
meef, -How do those MagPuls work? Are they plastic?How do they work? Well, you fill 'em full of cartridges (preferably pointing the correct direction) then stuff 'em in your rifle, pull the charging handle then the trigger.

Okay, smartass mode off:

They actually have worked flawlessly for me so far. They've got my confidence mode up really high on them.

Plastic. yeah, polymer plastic type. Tough as freaking mails. Take a look:

http://www.magpul.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=80_120&products_id=268

I consider them a great buy at the price. And for three bucks more, you can get a neat little viewing window in the side to monitor how fast you're spending money on ammo.

:D

armoredman
March 15, 2008, 11:30 AM
Contacted MagPul. Anyone else?

Buzzbox
March 15, 2008, 02:35 PM
:D
http://i32.tinypic.com/2nq44y8.jpg

armoredman
March 16, 2008, 10:11 AM
I see, thank you for your input. I agree, the Mini-14 is not nearly the same as the old fence post, (which I used in the military, and would love to own one), but it really wasn't supposed to be, smaller, lighter, differant caliber, etc. All good, world is big enough for lots of opinions.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/PICT0020.jpg

BTW, MagPul said they have no plans whatsoever to make Mini-14 mags, oh well.

M1 Shooter
March 16, 2008, 01:37 PM
MagPul said they have no plans whatsoever to make Mini-14 mags, oh well.

Oh well, I did say it was a totally unsubstantiated rumor. Although, I wonder if they would produce them if enough Mini owners would bug them about it?


However, it is true that C Products will be introducing Mini-14 hi caps within the next few months in both 20 and 30 round capacity. No word on pricing yet, but their AR mags are in the $20-$25 range, so I'm guessing their Mini-14 mags will be about the same. They are also planning to produce Mini-30 hi-caps also, which are currently in development.

So there is some good news, especially since C Products seems to have a good reputation in the AR community.

mgregg85
March 16, 2008, 07:33 PM
My oprod got stuck once on my mini-30. I started storing it with the action held open after that and later I learned that that is how you are supposed to store them.

It wasn't a big deal to open it back up, rubber mallet made a quick job of it. I'm sure if it happened in the field and I needed it I could have kicked it open.

TBeck
March 16, 2008, 09:11 PM
Ruger... go pound sand.

Yup, you certainly can pound sand with a Mini-14. And the beauty of it is that the gun will fire just fine afterwards!

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