Kel-Tecs SU-16
Jaegermeister
January 11, 2003, 09:07 PM
Anyone shot one of these yet? Does the fact that it breaks in half mean poor accuracy? Will it take AR mags?
Would you get a KT or a .223 AK? Would it be more accurate than Mini 14?
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mgjohn
January 11, 2003, 09:15 PM
Not on the market yet. Yes it will take AR mags according to KelTec.
Badger Arms
January 11, 2003, 10:06 PM
In reality, it folds less drastically than does the AR-15 style of rifle. It's more of a FN FAL type of folding although it folds all-the-way under rather than just a little as in the FAL. Accuracy should be pretty good. Probably better than the Mini-14 but I'm just guessing. Heck, a slingshot is better than the mini.... Just joshing.
BamBam-31
January 11, 2003, 10:29 PM
Anyone have pics?
Badger Arms
January 11, 2003, 10:33 PM
http://billstclair.com/blog/keltec-su16.jpg
JShirley
January 11, 2003, 10:33 PM
KT says they will ship in May.
enfwago
January 12, 2003, 09:27 AM
The suggested retail is $640.00
duck hunt
January 12, 2003, 11:50 AM
I simply must have one.
4v50 Gary
January 12, 2003, 12:10 PM
Red Dot sight & I'm good to go here in CA in case of those "non-riots" I don't have to worry about.
VictorLouis
January 12, 2003, 10:40 PM
Where'd that photo display come from? I don't see any info about this gun on their site.
gun-fucious
January 12, 2003, 11:06 PM
the picture is a scan from a Guns & ammo advertisement
the sights are not gonna co witness a red dot
i may have to photoshop some alterations
a red dot, a brown leather sling and the bobcat scout is borne
roscoe
January 13, 2003, 03:13 AM
What is with the red dot on the side of the front sight?
duck hunt
January 13, 2003, 10:08 AM
Will someone please answer Roscoe before he bursts!:uhoh:
(Just kidding, Roscoe -- I know about posting problems;))
roscoe
January 13, 2003, 12:21 PM
it didn't even up my post count
Kor
January 13, 2003, 02:07 PM
The red dot is the sight adjustment screw - it and the front sight blade are made of translucent red-orange plastic, the idea being that they will pick up ambient light and give a very high-contrast front sight, like the Hi-Viz fiber-optic handgun and shotgun sights. It's the same sighting arrangement as on my .40S&W KelTec Sub2000.
Personally, I'd much rather the front sight was steel, with steel-on-steel click-detent adjustments, like an AR15 - when I get my grubby mitts on a SU-16, if Kel-Tec is still shipping them with plastic sights, I'll give the rifle into GG&G's capable hands and have them replace the front sight with a flip-up AR15 unit that they make.
BamBam-31
January 14, 2003, 04:40 AM
4v50 Gary, did you say CA? :confused:
Those are gonna be legal in Kali?!?! Are you sure?
gun-fucious
January 14, 2003, 01:47 PM
heres one set up for social use
duncan
January 14, 2003, 01:57 PM
What is it with Kel Tec and folking carbines?
The Sub2000 or the Sub-9 is a great trunk carbine. Loved mine for years.
But there came a point in time when I could not configure it the way I wanted - it folds!
So I sold it for a .223 AR.
Then bought another AR15.
If you're going to spend $500 on that, why not save a little more for a Bushmaster, RRA, Armalite, Colt, DPMS, or an Olympic Arms AR-15 with a metal reciever?
I don't understand.
At $500 it's not marketable like the P-32.
triggertime
January 14, 2003, 02:05 PM
Looks like the ideal trunk/travel gun to me. Can't wait till these hit the market.
Nightcrawler
January 14, 2003, 02:22 PM
You know, every single time somebody comes out with a .223 semiauto, there's always at least one person who says "Why not just get an AR-15"?
Well, not everyone WANTS an AR-15. For two, this weapon's MSRP may seem high, but in very few places do you actually pay MSRP.
Third, this gun will probably be California legal, where the AR-15 isn't an option.
Kor
January 14, 2003, 04:02 PM
...That's EXACTLY how I want my Kel-Tec SU-16 to look!
Good thing I got myself on the dealer wants/waiting list! Kor will be happy boy...:cool: :D
4v50 Gary
January 14, 2003, 04:05 PM
Bam-Bam31 - no folding stock, it's a folding action. No evil pistol grip. No evil muzzle brake and no evil bayonet lug.
Looking at the pictures though, I wonder how heavy that bbl is and whether it'll heat up like the Mini-14 and throw bullets like a water-hose.
I'll wait to hear from someone who owns one.
duncan
January 14, 2003, 04:30 PM
Well, if you can play with it in CA, it's okay then.
But around here, you can privately buy a Bushmaster AR-15 for $600 cash. From a dealer $699.
gun-fucious
January 14, 2003, 04:48 PM
but what if the dealer price is 400 bucks?
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3285&perpage=25&pagenumber=4
Selfdfenz
January 14, 2003, 05:17 PM
Neat concept but pricey for what it is.
For 300 I could get a new, really crude but reliable ak in 5.45.
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Actually, a new AK rear stock set that holds an extra mag would be kind of cool.
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