HK AR15/M16/M4 High Reliability 30 Round Mag


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Bill2e
March 13, 2008, 04:00 PM
HK AR15/M16/M4 High Reliability 30 Round Mag

are these mags really that good?

They 3 to 4 times more expensive than Mil Spec & Magpul 30 mags.

Are they worth it?

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HorseSoldier
March 13, 2008, 04:09 PM
are these mags really that good?

No.

Are they worth it?

No.

At least my experience with them as issue mags is that they still have issues with jamming. A couple of mine, specifically, like to fail to feed the first round in the mag (regardless of whether it's got 30, 28, or any other number loaded) and somehow keep the bolt hold open from engaging. I know other people who've had the usual sort of AR-related magazine stoppages with them.

CWL
March 13, 2008, 04:14 PM
Are they worth it?

Nope.

I am not aware of any contraversy regarding unreliable Mil-Spec magazines.

Why spend extra $ for a solution in search of a problem?

kcmarine
March 13, 2008, 04:18 PM
Asking details about HK products around here is like asking for Jewish opinions of the Holocaust.

Coronach
March 13, 2008, 04:24 PM
Not really. Opinions of HK run from Uber Fanboy to Utter Contempt on this site, hitting all points in between.

As to the mag, not worth it is what I have heard. And just because that's the consensus doesn't mean we're HK haters. Maybe it means that HK has produced, in this instance, an over-priced, over-hyped product.

Mike, HK owner.

kcmarine
March 13, 2008, 04:28 PM
Not really. Opinions of HK run from Uber Fanboy to Utter Contempt on this site.

As to the mag, not worth it is what I have heard. And just because that's the consensus doesn't mean we're HK haters.

Mike

Hyperbole dude. Hyperbole.

But yeah, just get USGI mags. They're fine. But... they won't make you an ultra- tactical operator like HK mags will:neener::p:rolleyes:;)

BorisDaBastid
March 13, 2008, 04:38 PM
There are two ppl in my company that have spent money on the H&K mags. Both of them say that these mags are the best things since sliced bread, pizza, and other such tasty things. I've been using USGI stuff since I signed up (save the purchase of a couple of 20rndr's from Brownell's) and have had no problems with them at all. Of course, I'm smart and don't bang my mags against my helmet to "seat" my rounds, as that messes up the weld on the back side of the mag.

Do I think these $50+ mags are worth it? Not really. But then again, I've not used them when it really counts. Are they sexy? Hell yes. If you really want to know, buy one (1) and put it through all sorts of hell during a year's worth of range time. If you think you got fifty bucks worth, then you got what you paid for.

casio02478
March 13, 2008, 06:07 PM
If you worry about mag performance, then get standard USGI mags, switch out the follower with magpul followers and add a ranger plate. Then you will have uber mags at half the price. I never used the Pmags so I can't comment on them.

Bill2e
March 13, 2008, 07:01 PM
Thanks all, I just thought it was odd that the HK's were $50 +

and the pmags are $15 +/-

I could not see that the difference in price would be worth it.

I guess I won't be a ultra- tactical operator.

Chindo18Z
March 13, 2008, 10:14 PM
No.

My unit drank the koolaid a few years ago and we have been issuing them ever since. Yawn. HK "solution" in search of a problem.

Heavy. Expensive.

No more reliable than the proven GI aluminum makes which we have continued to use. Sometimes less reliable.

Ditched mine for range use only. Aluminum mags only for missions.

Did I mention heavy and expensive?

The Germans could over-engineer a toothpick (and have the world lined up to to overpay for the end result). :rolleyes:

LongRangeInternational
March 13, 2008, 10:17 PM
No, buy PMags.

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