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Buzzbox
March 14, 2008, 06:21 PM
I do too.

Here's a pic of my Smith Enterprise M25 build, two more SEI receivers on deck, and don't mind the chowder.

http://i31.tinypic.com/2942g6b.jpg

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H2O MAN
March 14, 2008, 06:26 PM
Sweet !! :D

IronSightRot671
March 14, 2008, 06:30 PM
I need one of those now!! ;)

Buzzbox
March 14, 2008, 07:08 PM
That's my version of this "EBR" everyone keeps talking about.

Chipperman
March 14, 2008, 07:24 PM
and don't mind the chowder

You mean CHOWDAH? ;)

Nice.

1 old 0311
March 14, 2008, 07:28 PM
Love them! I carried one in Vietnam, but it had a 'happy switch.':)

Buzzbox
March 14, 2008, 07:37 PM
You mean CHOWDAH?

Nice.

Considering I now live outside of Boston, yeah. I should change my "location."

Love them! I carried one in Vietnam, but it had a 'happy switch.'

I prefer happy switches on other things, like Colt 9mm ARs. I think the M14 is perfect in semi-auto.

DoubleTapDrew
March 14, 2008, 07:46 PM
That's beautiful!
If you don't mind me asking, how much does it cost to build one as opposed to buying a complete rifle from the major companies? I try to stay away but keep getting drawn to the M1As.

mustang 22
March 14, 2008, 07:54 PM
There was a time that I Hated this weapon more than anything I could think of. Double timing around Burris Field on Ft Lewis in 1966 holding one of these at port arms was pure torture.. I still have not found a finer shooter. I have two now and will never part with them, Ive got an M1 that comes very close, but then I never had to carry one at port arms double timing around Burris Field either.:D

Buzzbox
March 14, 2008, 08:08 PM
That's beautiful!
If you don't mind me asking, how much does it cost to build one as opposed to buying a complete rifle from the major companies? I try to stay away but keep getting drawn to the M1As.


I should note that I collected the parts for all my rifles. I did not personally build any of them. The M14 is not like an AR as far as ease of assembly, especially if match accuracy is desired. I rely on retired AMTU riflesmiths for the assembly.

For a "plinker" you can't beat the price of a Springfield Armory Inc. Loaded model. If you desire greater quality and accuracy, the price increases, and leaves SAI in the dust as far as end product.

If you simply want an example of the M14 to throw lead with, and nothing more, buy that Springfield Armory Inc. product and enjoy. If you are interested in the M14, and wish to have a finer product.. I recommend skipping any commercial M14 shop, and collecting parts yourself. Then select a reputed smith and have them assemble your rifle.

The cheapest I've built an M14 was with an Armscorp receiver, and used USGI parts, with no modification. That rings in at about $1800. Not long ago, I built a rifle with all new parts, a Krieger barrel, and NM modification, for $2700. Outwardly it looks just like a standard issue stick.

If you're asking about how much it costs to build the M25 pictured, I'm not sure you want to know.

wcwhitey
March 14, 2008, 08:17 PM
Your showing off now! Nice setup. A rifleman's rifle. I still have not pulled the trigger on adding to my Springfield, they are just such a fine rifle in their GI state. Bill

Buzzbox
March 14, 2008, 08:30 PM
Your showing off now! Nice setup. A rifleman's rifle. I still have not pulled the trigger on adding to my Springfield, they are just such a fine rifle in their GI state. Bill

Just the tip of the iceberg, Boyo. Perhaps something more to the liking of those who carried them in the service of our fine Country:

http://i31.tinypic.com/b3v9l4.jpg

Vityaz
March 14, 2008, 08:35 PM
Buzz, that's an amazing looking stock.

Dave P
March 14, 2008, 08:37 PM
Very nice!

james_bond
March 14, 2008, 08:43 PM
Mr. Buzz that is a fine peice of wood. and I like the first M-25's stock's adjustibility

Regolith
March 14, 2008, 08:45 PM
So, uh, Buzz....where do you live again? And where do you keep your guns? :neener:

J/K. Beautiful rifle (the one with the wooden stock). If only my bank account wasn't so empty...

Buzzbox
March 14, 2008, 08:53 PM
I live outside of Boston, MA. My home has a security system, an energetic dog, and I live between two Statees. Additionally, my 800lb safe is throughbolted to a piece of 3/4 plate on the ceiling joists of the floor below. My neighborhood is full of aging Jews and Italians, who love to keep an eye on the neighbors.

If you approach my home, I'll get a call from my elderly neighbor across the street, before you set off the alarm, and after the dog tastes your calf.

TexasRifleman
March 14, 2008, 08:59 PM
Love them! I carried one in Vietnam, but it had a 'happy switch.'

Maybe but let's be honest here. You didn't actually USE that happy switch for anything other than goofing off did you?

Nearly all the service M14's had the happy switch disconnected even while it was still a viable service weapon.

kcmarine
March 14, 2008, 09:00 PM
WANT NAO!!!1!!

Regolith
March 14, 2008, 09:02 PM
I live outside of Boston, MA. My home has a security system, an energetic dog, and I live between two Statees. Additionally, my 800lb safe is throughbolted to a piece of 3/4 plate on the ceiling joists of the floor below. My neighborhood is full of aging Jews and Italians, who love to keep an eye on the neighbors.

If you approach my home, I'll get a call from my elderly neighbor across the street, before you set off the alarm, and after the dog tastes your calf.

You know I was kidding, right? ;)

Also brings a quote from the South Park movie to mind...

"I freaking hate guard dogs!"

Buzzbox
March 14, 2008, 09:06 PM
You know I was kidding, right?

Surely, but then you're only one person, I was merely stating the facts for anyone with unsavory intentions. So that they could assemble the right crew for the job.

eldon519
March 14, 2008, 09:17 PM
Those are fantastic weapons Buzzbox. I never really appreciated the M-14 until I got my Springfield M1A Loaded. It is now on a very short lists of guns I plan to never part with.

Cromlech
March 14, 2008, 09:17 PM
That's beautiful. I crave a rifle like that. :(

Buzzbox
March 14, 2008, 09:25 PM
One more M14, and with it a comparison:

http://i10.tinypic.com/8au7khz.jpg

ryoushi
March 14, 2008, 09:47 PM
http://i31.tinypic.com/b3v9l4.jpg
God I love Flamed Birch! Pity more people don't offer that wood for custom stocks.

Flamed Birch stocks on my .45
http://bp0.blogger.com/_2EBf0FFmfYE/R6ZHt609JSI/AAAAAAAAAIo/ooCXCVyeMxI/s400/Photo+4.jpg

Buzzbox
March 14, 2008, 09:53 PM
God I love Flamed Birch! Pity more people don't offer that wood for custom stocks.

Very nice grips on your 1911 friend, but I know not of "flamed birch." I've not taken that stock to any gay bars. :D

The stock is a USGI issue birch stock, not a commercial or presentation grade stock. Finished in Tung oil. They call it "Tiger Striping." It appears the wood in your grips is actually finer.

ryoushi
March 14, 2008, 10:32 PM
Flamed Birch, Tiger Striped Birch it's all the same stuff. Those GI issue stocks are national treasures in my book.

jrfoxx
March 14, 2008, 10:46 PM
Buzz, that's an amazing looking stock.

Amazing is an understatement.Thats just incredibly beautiful.It would drive me nuts though, because I'd be terrified to damage, or even get dirty, such a beautiful stock, but at the same time, owning a gun and not shooting it would kill me, so.....

OMGWTFBBQ
March 14, 2008, 10:53 PM
I hate you guys, now I'm going to have to start saving...

Buzzbox
March 14, 2008, 11:05 PM
Amazing is an understatement.Thats just incredibly beautiful.It would drive me nuts though, because I'd be terrified to damage, or even get dirty, such a beautiful stock, but at the same time, owning a gun and not shooting it would kill me, so.....

I think I have a pic of the stock when I received it. Scratches, dings and such in a wood stock actually aren't much trouble, many come out with a wipe of your chosen oil. That you can't see the damage to this stock just means I've refinished a few before.

As long as you aren't in the habit of curbstomping your rifles, you don't need to baby the stock. Especially one that was issued.

madcratebuilder
March 15, 2008, 09:08 AM
That is very nice Tiger stripe Buzzbox, very nice. Mine is a SA with the normal NM crap.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/m1a-1.jpg

Buzzbox
March 15, 2008, 02:19 PM
That's a fine looking rifle, is it bedded?

H2O MAN
March 15, 2008, 02:32 PM
Terrific Threesome :)
What's the story on the Stubbie ?

http://i10.tinypic.com/8au7khz.jpg



These two are mine

http://www.athenswater.com/images/LITE-SDM.jpg

natescout
March 15, 2008, 02:41 PM
love the scout , what kind of flash hider, vortex?

Buzzbox
March 15, 2008, 02:55 PM
Terrific Threesome
What's the story on the Stubbie ?
love the scout , what kind of flash hider, vortex?

It's an Armscorp TFL marked receiver, Criterion TFL 18" chrome lined barrel, and the flashhider is a standard one that has been cut and beveled.

H2O MAN
March 15, 2008, 03:14 PM
Buzzbox: ...the flashhider is a standard one that has been cut and beveled.

Interesting :cool:

Do you have close up pictures of this mod?
How well does it work?

Thanks ~

IndianaBoy
March 15, 2008, 10:20 PM
You know... seeing these pictures makes me hate Bill Clinton.

I don't care about the BJ on the oval office.

Selling secrets to the Chinese was probably his greatest sin.


But I despise the man for all the M14 rifles that he had cut into scrap. :fire:

TexasRifleman
March 15, 2008, 10:30 PM
But I despise the man for all the M14 rifles that he had cut into scrap.

Almost half a million of them, just makes me sick.

Here's my Fulton....

http://homepage.mac.com/jayc67/M14a.jpg

trbon8r
March 15, 2008, 10:47 PM
Texas Rifleman,

Nice looking gun you've got there. I notice you have the bayonet lug on the flash suppressor. I was under the impression that on the bush length rifles you couldn't remove the plug and gas piston unless you had a neutered flash suppressor?

Wes Janson
March 16, 2008, 12:21 AM
IIRC, you can remove the plug (not as easily though maybe), but you can't attach a bayonet.

chrlefxtrt
March 16, 2008, 12:39 AM
And I thought Ron Jeremy made me feel inadequate. Thanks a lot. You guys suck. Just kidding, apparently I suck, or I would have an M1-A1:). Man I can't wait until bonus time in July.

chrlefxtrt
March 16, 2008, 12:40 AM
Very nice examples of American firearms btw. My jealousy is a compliment :D

Buzzbox
March 16, 2008, 12:51 AM
apparently I suck, or I would have an M1-A1. Man I can't wait until bonus time in July.

The M1-A1 is a Main Battle Tank, not a rifle.

SpeedAKL
March 16, 2008, 01:07 AM
Unbelievably beautiful guns....I want

MidMichBlue
March 16, 2008, 03:02 AM
Carried a 14 w/ switch & bipod in "66-"68. First gun I bought when I came home was a LH Rem788 in .308. Torched an ugly stock and it turned into the prettiest wood I've owned to this day. Always wondered what that 14 would have looked like after flaming. Now I know. Sweet!!

Run&Shoot
March 16, 2008, 03:55 AM
Thanks Buzz, that last pic was worth a month of reading THR threads just to see that. I have service Garands that I enjoy, but man oh man your M25 and M14s made me drool. You have done the M14 a just tribute. Keep it up. I hope you have kids and grandkids you'll be able to leave them to and know they will get generations of use and care. Well done and thanks for sharing!

BTW, let us know if Johnny Darwin shows up some night to rob a guy with three M14s and a full auto 9mm.

TexasRifleman
March 16, 2008, 09:52 AM
I notice you have the bayonet lug on the flash suppressor. I was under the impression that on the bush length rifles you couldn't remove the plug and gas piston unless you had a neutered flash suppressor?

I don't have any trouble getting the plug out but Wes Janson is right, there's no using a bayonet.

Fulton uses GI parts and since there was never such a thing as a "real" bush M14 anyway this is just how it ends up.

If I need to bayonet something I'll just run :)

Wes Janson
March 16, 2008, 10:08 AM
It's worth pointing out that Springfield does mark some rifle packages as "M1A1". Dunno if that's they're designation for 18" models, or what the deal is.

Buzzbox
March 16, 2008, 11:55 AM
It's worth pointing out that Springfield does mark some rifle packages as "M1A1". Dunno if that's they're designation for 18" models, or what the deal is.

Those are "M1A-A1 Bush models made before 1994. Still not M1A1.

jeepmor
March 16, 2008, 12:16 PM
Nice examples of fine issued wood. How do they flame it to bring out the grain so much? Do they heat it with a torch or is it just the name of that style of birch and it comes that way?

Usually the figured wood comes from the stump area of the trees harvested. On that note, an old colleague from way back said he had gun company representative stop by annually and ask him if they could buy his walnut tree should it ever be removed or fatally damaged. The stump diameter of this tree was well over 6 feet. Lots of beautiful stocks would come of it.

Buzzbox
March 16, 2008, 12:28 PM
H2O Man:

Quote:
Buzzbox: ...the flashhider is a standard one that has been cut and beveled.
Interesting

Do you have close up pictures of this mod?
How well does it work?

Thanks ~

I haven't yet tried it at dusk, but it seems to work just fine.

http://i15.tinypic.com/2vrtuuu.jpg

noonanda
March 16, 2008, 12:52 PM
those are beautiful rifles you got, here is a pic of my PolyTech that I tricked out/painted myself after I got back from Iraq (a month ago yesterday).
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg266/noonanda/21808006.jpg

It is a basic Polytech wearing a USGI synthetic stock that I painted after making a stencil similar to the MARPAT cammis we wear. It has a cheek riser that is adjustable from LAW483, and sports a promag heavy duty scope mount (almost the same as a ARMS mount) with a Simmons 3X9X50 scope and a Harris Bipod. Since these pictures were taken I have painted the scope, it stuck out too much for my liking. I plan on using this for some Coyote extermination/pig hunting next week up in Oregon
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg266/noonanda/21808011.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg266/noonanda/21808012.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg266/noonanda/21808010.jpg

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