[Desertdog]

Hear Me Now and Believe Me Later

August 7, 2003
http://rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_080703/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html

Here me now and believe me later, my friends: all these conservative orgasms over Arnold Schwarzenegger are - like the "Gorbasms" liberals experienced over Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev - fake. I know that (R) next to Schwarzenegger's name excites the White House, but his own words prove he's not a conservative. I call this "The Hollywood Syndrome," and it happens every time some actor-type says anything even remotely conservative. I'm not trying to cold shower anybody here, but don't look to anyone in Hollywood to validate your political ideas.



The American Prowler's George Neumayr detailed Arnold's politics in his article "Here's Arnold!" Quote: "[H]e spoke in generalities and banalities about his plans for the state. To the extent that he said anything, he sounded not like a fiscal conservative but a moderate Democrat. He said that he wanted businesses to come back to California so that the state government could collect enough tax revenues to provide social programs. This is the sort of obtuse comment middle-of-the-road Democrats always make, forgetting that businesses are leaving the state because they are tired of paying high taxes for those big government social programs."

More: "He has told the press he is 'very liberal' about social programs, supports abortion and homosexual adoption, and advocates 'sensible gun controls.' His entree into politics last year was a proposition Democrats endorsed because it raised state spending for what amounted to state babysitting - before-school and after-school programs that cost the state up to $455 million a year. He has complained openly about the party's conservatism.... Talk magazine described him as 'impatient' with the religious right....
[H]e expressed disgust with the Republicans who impeached Clinton. 'That was another thing I will never forgive the Republican Party for,' he said. 'We spent one year wasting time because there was a human failure. I was ashamed to call myself a Republican during that period.'"

Does this sound like "the Next Reagan," as some people are calling Arnold? Hardly. This guy may be the next actor elected governor of California, but that's where the similarity between him and Ronaldus Magnus end.

[Sergeant Bob]

Yeah, I was listening to Hannity last night and he was saying ( my interpretation ) "Except for the fact UMMM!!, he's UMMM!!, almost as Liberal as UMMM!!, Boxer and UMMM!!, Fineswine, he's UMMM!!, a Republican!!" He was just about drooling over the Governator. I think he needs to go back to the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies.

[Deepdiver]

Arnold is a democrat in republican clothing.......just wait and see!

[Art Eatman]

Welllllll, maybe ol' Arnold is a reasonable man and folks can explain what's reasonable in reasonable gun control and he might come to view Kalifornia's present laws as unreasonable...

Quien sabe?

Art

[bountyhunter]

Hey, come on. He only had a few days to prepare, so he just took an old Gray Davis speech and read it. I'm sure he'll do better next time. It is funny to see Arnold's lips move and hear a democrats voice come out.

He quipped that this would be the first time his wife (Maria) would ever vote for a Republican. After hearing the speech, I'm not so sure she would be?

[longeyes]

Arnold may get better but more likely he will, under scrutiny,
get worse. What I heard in his initial speeches was confusion,
just catch phrases that didn't add up to a consistent policy or
philosophy. He wants businesses to hang around but somehow believes
that they will do that without less regulation and lower taxes. So
who is going to pay the taxes to take care of all the disadvantaged
that he is concerned about? Unfortunately, conservative and compassionate
don't really go together. We can't base the Republic on "love,"
that curiously modern--or is it post-modern?--vice masquerading as
virtue.

CA is not in the latrine fiscally because of "special interests,"
unless you consider the misguided policies underlying public
education and welfare and health programs as special interests. The
fact is we can't afford what the radicals believe is the compassionate
essentials without a serious transfer of wealth, and that is inimical
to the most fundamental principles of this Republic.

[PATH]

I hope Gray Davis survives and takes Kalifornia down the fiscal toilet. If the anti-gun, tax and spend crowd want to stay in power I say let them. We'll see just how much misery Kalifronians will endure before they toss the Left wing crowd of democrats! Simply put----people desrve the government they elect!!!!!!:neener:

And here I thought New York State was a lefty paradise.......:rolleyes:

[Pendragon]

I think it will be fun to watch what they "Governator" does to/for CalEEfoRNYUH!

I dont think a conservative stands a prayer in this state.

I will enjoy it because I will be reading about it in Texas :D

[HBK]

People do deserve what they vote for, but we have a lot of gun owners and other allies in California that are suffering from the draconian laws imposed on that state. We need to support the minority of pro gun Californians and do something to help them take back their state instead of sacrificing them by just writing it off. Here's hoping McClintock wins the office of governor of California.

[seeker_two]

Welllllll, maybe ol' Arnold is a reasonable man and folks can explain what's reasonable in reasonable gun control and he might come to view Kalifornia's present laws as unreasonable...

My biggest question about the "Running Man" has been, "What does he consider to be REASONABLE gun control?" That's something that I haven't heard yet... :scrutiny:

I believe in REASONABLE gun laws too. I believe that the state should offer free shooting safety classes to anyone who wants to sign up--NOT as a mandatory class but as a public service (like the Health Dept.'s nutrition classes or Citizens On Patrol)....

...and that would be about it. :D

[Pendragon]

McClintock would be dreamy.

But we need to wake up and smell the Starbucks. It aint going to happen.

Arnold may not be great on guns, but Gray Davis enacted so much gun control that anyone who is "moderate" on guns is more likely to come out with the "enforce the laws" stance.

I am not an appologist for him, I just think that in the very crowded field of goobers, where you only need a plurality to win, he is an absolute shoe-in. The winner may have as little as 9-18% of the vote and I just do not see anyone who is going to have the name recognition.

The fact is, people around here are in a serious funk and there is a definate feeling that most of the career pols should be run out on a rail.

This is why Arnold is unbeatable IMO:

1. He is an immigrant who started with nothing
2. He does not have toes to "special interest"
3. He is very "For the Children"
4. He is very much for the "social programs"
5. He claims he wants to "bring business back to CAH-LEE-FORNYUH"
6. He is one of the most popular celebrities on the planet with no well known history of controversy or scandal
7. He will get TONS of free media attention

Not saying he is good or competent, only that he will get elected.

I am not saying he is qualified o

[rock jock]

If Arnold wins, I think he is going to be in for a shock when he realizes what real-world politics are all about. In an attempt to please everyone, he will please no one. He will be criticized by the left and the right. In two years he will run again and lose to a Democrat.

[Sergeant Bob]

Rock's got it nailed. Even if he wins, he's still got a huge Democrat machine he'll have to fight. It won't matter how liberal he is, as long as he has an "R" next to his name, they're going to be tougher and meaner than anything Cyberdyne Systems can come up with. Maybe Carl and Jesse could go out there and give him a hand?

[Erik]

Arnold is a better alternative than anyone else who has a shot at the gov's mansion.

Sure, there are morepalatable choises from a conservative point of view, but are there more palatable choices who might actually WIN?

Maybe... Likely not.

[lapidator]

Let me first say... can you say Mayor Bloomberg of NYC, anyone... anyone -- Bueller anyone?? Governator == RINO.

Having said that, consider the following... Bring 'Em On, Baby
Blogger William Dyer expands on our suggestion yesterday that Schwarzenegger be allowed to run for president:

It drove the Angry Left nuts when Dubya baited the US military's honey-trap by telling would-be terrorists in Iraq to "bring 'em on"--Dubya's Texas drawl simply ruled when delivering that line. But The Terminator can deliver not only an ominous accent but a physical presence that bodes major mayhem. . . . I very much want our President to be someone who can, when appropriate, take a blunt, pithy, and aggressive phrase, and then deliver it into the CNN microphones in just the utterly convincing way that will turn it into the shrieking, bed-wetting #1 cause of recurring nightmares for even non-English speakers like Osama bin Ladin.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110003862


IMHO -- Governator is better than nothing -- except Davis riding the SS California down to a watery grave --> which will never happen.

Cali is already quite far gone -- let the Governator anoy the lefties for as long as possible.

Entertaining as hell aint it?

Lapidator

[longeyes]

For those who haven't noticed, The Other Forty-Nine are walking in
California's Sasquatch footsteps. The California Disease, in all its
manifest variety of ills, isn't confined to California. What is
sinking California is sinking most of America, you're just a little
behind the curve, that's all. Hear me now and believe me later.

But, that said...

I'm going to bet that Arnold's gorge will rise when he realizes
what kind of people he's going to be dealing with in the CA
Legislature and the various special interest lobbying groups. If he
follows his gut instincts we may get some pleasant surprises.

(I'd prefer McClintock but I'm a realist.)

[Partisan Ranger]

When I hear the term 'reasonable gun controls,' I get the eebie-jeebies.

'Reasonable gun control,' according to the leftist press, bans just about everything except single shot bolt rifles.