Question on 9 mm. Machine-gun ammo


March 15, 2008, 02:48 PM
This seems like the best place to post this:
I found a sealed box of this 9 mm. machine-gun ammo that I have had for years hidden away in an old box. I wonder if anyone would know the vintage of this stuff, and if it would be safe to shoot in a modern 9mm pistol? Is there any collector value to something like this?

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March 15, 2008, 02:50 PM
Probably something you could sell on GunBroker. I just sold some old vintage .45 ACP ammo.

March 15, 2008, 03:23 PM
Subgun 9mm rounds are pretty hot compared to standard 9mm that we usually use in pistols. While I doubt that you'll blow up your pistol with just one box of these, you'll probably increase the wear and tear on the pistol significantly. I would not abuse my pistols like that just to use up a box of ammo.

March 15, 2008, 04:36 PM
Advertise them on one of the gun auction sites. They're more valuable as collector stuff than as shooting ammo.

March 15, 2008, 06:49 PM
This ammo was originally for sub guns such as the Uzi. Although there is no SAAMI designation of 9mm Parabellum (Luger) +P+, this would be classified near to or above that?????. Shooting the ammo in your pistol would be very abusive at least, and depending on the make and condition of your weapon, It could be dangerous to shoot.

Steve H
March 15, 2008, 06:52 PM
Looks like it would be a cool box in a ammo collection!!

Wil Terry
March 15, 2008, 07:36 PM
It is standard regular edition W-W 9MM PARABELLUM pistol ammunition loaded to standard pressures. The box words simply meant it was for the 9MM subguns we used a few of like the STEN gun etc
We shot that stuff up by the ton after WWII and it was easy to buy for $30.00 per M dang near any where. Then we were able to buy the CANADIAN DI40, DI41, DI43, DI44 [ and several other headstamps ] issue ammunition and it was WAAAAAY above that W-W stuff for power in all our 9MM pistols.
The Canuck ammo was a 115GR fmj at 1275 fps from and 9MM pistol worth it's salt. AHHHHHH...the good ol' days...Lugers for 25 bucks...P38's for 25bucks...Inglis 9MM pistols for 15 to 20 bucks....
There are collectors of such WWII ammunition as you've posted above but I assure you was NOTHING special in the performance department.

Carl N. Brown
March 15, 2008, 07:45 PM
Italian 9mm ammo headstamped M38 was loaded extra hot
for the Beretta Model 1938 submachinegun, and is unpleasant
to fire in pistols designed for 9mm Parabellum and is dangerous
to fire in the Italian 9mm Glisenti pistol. SO I would take a
label "for use in Submachineguns" as meaning "NOT for use
in pistols." Safest assumption is "for submachinegun" means
+P+ and then some. Besides, a collector might give enough
for that box to pay for a year supply of regular ammo.

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