Saw a very nice SVD...


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Afy
March 16, 2008, 04:09 PM
Available with 2 10 round magazines, the original day/night scope +carrying cases etc etc..excellent condition. except for one thing....

It has been re-calibered to .300 Savage to get around the laws in France.

Hence the question ... what on earth is a .300 Savage and how does it compare to the original caliber 7.62x39 I think...

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Number 6
March 16, 2008, 04:16 PM
SVDs are usually chambered in 7.62x54R, not 7.62x39. .300 Savage will be a step up from 7.62x39, but will not be as powerful as the 7.62x54R. The .300 Savage is the parent case for the .308 Winchester, and was developed in the 1920s to be similar to the 30-06, but failed to perform as well.

db_tanker
March 16, 2008, 04:23 PM
I would like to see that...


The French are good figuring out neat stuff to do like that. :)

Afy
March 16, 2008, 04:31 PM
Also have a very nice AK variant in polymer that is fully auto in 300 Savage...

My bad on the case length, not very familliar with milsurp.

DnPRK
March 16, 2008, 04:42 PM
SVDs are chambered in 7.62x54R and are an honest-to-goodness battle rifle cartridge. But France doesn't allow ownership of firearms that shoot military cartridges.

300 Savage dates back to the 1920s as a cartridge for the Savage 99 lever action rifle. It is loaded to 47,000 psi. Being a civilian cartridge, its OK for a French civilian to own.

The 7.62x51 NATO is loaded to 62,000 psi and was derived from the 300 Savage in the 1950s. But would be impossible to own in France because its a military cartridge.

bl4ckd0g
March 16, 2008, 05:32 PM
Is the 7.62x54 caliber totally forbidden in France, or are you only limited to a 1,000 round purchase per year?

goon
March 16, 2008, 05:45 PM
The .300 Savage is a pretty good cartridge. My dad has taken a lot of deer with his - one was a neck shot at about 400 yards.
It's a bit under .308 in performance so the trajectory won't be quite as flat. But it's still an effective cartridge and it uses regular .308 diameter bullets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.300_Savage
http://www.reloadbench.com/cartridges/300s.html
http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/browse?TabID=3&Categoryid=9362&categorystring=653***690***

Afy
March 17, 2008, 07:01 AM
Military calibers are allowed but a real PITA to get permission for. It can take up to a year...

Versus non-military calibers where you just walk in, show your generic permit, and walk out with the weapon.

I dont know of any limitations on the amount of ammo you can buy..
But ammo is expensive irrespective of caliber. Most people reload...

Often at the range you will come across people letting off with auto-AR variants in .222 remmington :)

Silvanus
March 17, 2008, 09:13 AM
It's kinda like the Italians with their 9x21 IMI...

The question is whether you reload or not. If you do, I see no problem with the .300 savage. If you don't, it could be hard to find ammo. Even if you do find some it will probably be quite expensive.


edit: May I ask where you're from? I'm just curious ;)

Afy
March 17, 2008, 03:12 PM
I am from India, live in France and work all over the place... or where exactly in France? Champaigne Adrenne

I buy 95% of my stuff from this guy in Auxerre (http://www.armurerie-auxerre.com/catalog/index.php )

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