Looking for a cheep rifle for the end of the worldd! haha. AR? AK? 7mm? 30/O6? Etc?


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Nightwing
March 17, 2008, 03:10 PM
I don't know what I want. But I know I want to get a larger rifle. I want ammo to be reasonably priced, but I do think I need to add a large rifle to the collection. I have handguns, a 22, shotguns, and accessories. I don't necessarily need one for hunting, but wouldn't be horrible if it could accommodate that. Mainly something for if crap hits the fan and I need something.
Need something very affordable. Was looking at a S&W AR-15 for $899, but still out of my price range. Plus ammo......
I have a buddy that purchased a rifle that looked like an AK and fired AK47 ammo (sorry guys.....not too knowledgeable about the guns caliber or ammo size) but only took a 10 round mag. Was able top easily modify the magazine receiver to take a 30 rnd double stacked mag. Maybe something like this would be a good idea for me.
Any ideas? Or do you have anything?

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SSN Vet
March 17, 2008, 03:18 PM
http://www.stanleysproshop.com/Saiga_7_62_Rifle-_20_47_Inch_B_P91.cfm

RNB65
March 17, 2008, 03:21 PM
Sounds like you're jonesing for a Yugo SKS.
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homers
March 17, 2008, 03:22 PM
end of the world? Go with a 30/06 -- you can find ammo pretty much anywhere.

Monkeybear
March 17, 2008, 03:33 PM
Get an SKS

foghornl
March 17, 2008, 03:43 PM
SKS

Still under $200, uses 7.62x39 ammo.

Not a 500-Yd 'shoot the wings off a fly' rifle, but at least 'minute of bad guy' out to 200Yds. Ammo in small lots (a few boxes of 20 at a time) is still mostly under $5/20. Bulk purchases lower the cost per round.

NG VI
March 17, 2008, 03:59 PM
Sounds like an SKS to me too. x39 is still cheap, do it.

benEzra
March 17, 2008, 04:10 PM
These days, a Romanian AK is only around $100 or so more than an entry-level SKS and gives you somewhat better reliability (not that the SKS is unreliable, though), a lighter and more compact package, the ability to use detachable magazines, and easier mounting of optics. Currently imported Romanian AK's are known as WASR's, and take standard AK magazines (which are very reasonably priced and, unlike most AR magazines, are built to last practically forever).

Here's my 2002 model SAR-1 ($379, WASR's are similar but somewhat cheaper) with a $179 Russian Kobra optic sitting on the built-in optics siderail mount.

http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/uploads/1168567538/med_gallery_260_23_20379.jpg

FWIW, my wife has an SKS (a beautiful 1952 Tula) and loves it, but the SKS is longer, significantly heavier, harder to mount optics on, harder to reload quickly, and is limited to the nondetachable 10-round internal magazine unless you spend significant time and money converting the rifle to meet the arcane 18 USC 922(r) rules--and even if you do, aftermarket SKS magazines are notoriously unreliable. If you like the SKS in its straight-stocked, 10-round configuration, then go for it, but don't buy the SKS with the intent of converting it to an AK-like configuration.

par0thead151
March 17, 2008, 04:43 PM
build your own!
costs around 200$ if you can bumm the tools from someone else.
also u get a better product as the barrel is superior same with trigger and overall build quality

Nightwing
March 17, 2008, 06:23 PM
hrrrrm. any more suggestions?

phoglund
March 17, 2008, 06:37 PM
If you don't like the SKS, AK, or Saiga. (All of which are recommendable) perhaps you would like a lever action in 30-30? Not a bad choice really, reasonable capacity you can load as you fire, ammo available just about anywhere, relatively inexpensive (~$350-400, less if used) and useful for hunting medium size game at reasonable ranges, i.e. Deer at ~150 yards. Example: Marlin 336W

Deer Hunter
March 17, 2008, 06:58 PM
Only problem with the Marlin is the cost of ammo. If he wants a full power rifle round like that, might as well take a look at Mosins.

El Tejon
March 17, 2008, 07:10 PM
I'll vote Mosin--hits tough (like our .30-'06), ammo stores forever, ammo is still inexpensive, bolt is fairly simple and tough, so easy to gunsmith even El Tejon can work on them.:p

jpwilly
March 17, 2008, 07:24 PM
Cheap is subjective but I'd say a WASR AK is cheap and will do fine an AR will cost more but should be much more accurate.

pinstripe
March 17, 2008, 07:44 PM
cheap and reliable. sks, ak, or mosin nagant. All will fill the bill.

Bearhands
March 17, 2008, 07:48 PM
if you don't already know....... you won't need one.

xd9fan
March 17, 2008, 09:42 PM
perhaps you would like a lever action in 30-30?
I agree!!

Cosmoline
March 17, 2008, 09:55 PM
My choice is a Tikka T-91 Heavy

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/Gussick/M912.jpg

rhubarb
March 17, 2008, 10:19 PM
AR:
Relatively inexpensive ammo
Inexpensive functional magazines
Dozens of manufacturers = widespread parts availability
Accuracy ranges from excellent to exemplary
Reliable
Unlimited configurations

You get what you pay for, which means that you will pay more for a superior gun.

O.S.O.K.
March 17, 2008, 10:25 PM
I would say AK first - but you're looking for more ideas so how about this?
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/medium/HPIM1171.JPG
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/medium/HPIM1170.JPG

Its $300, chambered for 9mm or 40 Smith & Wesson and takes high capacity pistol mags - this one is a G-17 model and takes Glock 17 and 18 mags - the ones pictures are 33 round mags - $20 a pop on sale. :D

Shoots any 9mm that you can find (still finding out about hard cast bullets though) and gives you .357 Mag power levels.

Accuracy is around 3" at 100 yards and its practical range is 150 yards.

Folds to 16 inches and everything in the pic fits into that little black pack.

Ammo is cheap and you can find 9mm anywhere.

Only downsides are 1) it's ugly and 2) not optic friendly - but its aperture sight is very good IMHO.

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