will a romanian LPS scope fit a Saiga 7.62x39?


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silverlance
March 18, 2008, 05:23 AM
A buddy wants to sell me a romanian LPS scope (trade actually... he owes me money). I don't like him worrying about owing me money so I'd like to take the scope even if I am losing money.

But only if it will fit my saiga 7.62x39's rail.

will it?

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MIL-DOT
March 18, 2008, 09:01 AM
Not sure if it's the same scope or not, but i bought a scope from a work buddy that came off a Romanian faux-dragunov rifle, and it "fit" my saiga rail.....till i fired it a couple times, then it would always kick itself loose. Turned out to be compatible with SKS rail, not AKs. Google Kalinka, or KalinkaOptics, that's where i finally got the right scope for my Saiga. You'll be able to see the difference in the two scope rail types and see which you have.

SSN Vet
March 18, 2008, 10:54 AM
Saigas have the standard AK side rail....

because that's what they are;)

rangerruck
March 18, 2008, 11:04 AM
if it fits an ak , then it fits a saiga, like the above poster said, 'cuz that's what a Saiga is...

silverlance
March 18, 2008, 12:35 PM
the LPS scope came off of a Romanian PSL. it is just like this one:

http://www.sovietpropaganda.net/i//IMG_1057.jpg

the saiga rail looks like this:

http://www.notpurfect.com/main/rail.JPG

ive never used the rails on either of my saigas.

silverlance
March 18, 2008, 02:35 PM
so.... anyone know?
basically, I dont know if the PSL side rail is the same as the AK side rail.

DnPRK
March 18, 2008, 02:45 PM
If your buddy's scope is identical to the one in the picture, it will not fit an AK rail. However, you can interchange the lower end of the scope mount for one that will fit an AK. Lower end for AK rail (http://www.kalinkaoptics.com/detail.aspx?ID=626)

It's easy to swap that SKS/Dragunov lower end for the AK lower end. I did one a couple months ago.

akolleth
March 18, 2008, 02:56 PM
There are two types of rails on the AK style weapons, and two types of bottoms on the scopes based of which rail you have. They are the AK style, and the SVD/PSL style. They are not interchangable.

Your rail on the Saiga is the AK type rail. The scope your friend should have a SVD/PSL type of base. They will not work together as is. The eye relief will be all wrong, and the scope will not hold tightly down.

But the good news is is that you can use the scope by swapping out the base that comes with that scope to from SVD to AK type rail.

Kalinka Optics AK mount base (http://www.kalinkaoptics.com/detail.aspx?ID=626)

Easy as pie, with just four screws to undo.

Those Russians sure knew how to make a scope useful, the POSP is able to be swapped from rifle to rifle, even from different rails to different rails with very little work.

akolleth
March 18, 2008, 03:03 PM
A picture is worth alot of time spent rambling on---

example of a SVD rail
http://www.kalinkaoptics.com/graph/images/sighting_devices/accessories/zenit_plate_600.jpg

Example of an AK rail
http://www.kalinkaoptics.com/graph/images/sighting_devices/accessories/zen_black_ver2_ak_plate_1_600.jpg

POSP with Ak style base
http://www.kalinkaoptics.com/graph/images/sighting_devices/posp_pso/posp4x24akbl_1_600.jpg

POSP with SVD/PSL style of base
http://www.kalinkaoptics.com/graph/images/sighting_devices/posp_pso/posp_4x24_1_600.jpg

Note how its the same scope, just with a slightly differnet base screwed in. The AK mount places the scope further forward, and has a differnet locking system for use specifically on the AK rail

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