What if ccw and open carry was banned nationwide?

What if ccw and open carry was banned nationwide due to obama?
And the only places you can carry is on your private property,hunting,or have it in the car in a holster in a glove box or seat loaded or unloaded.

I guess I'd just have to do my best to not get caught.

Seriously though:
1. The President doesn't have the power to create laws, and I don't see it happening through an executive order.
2. The Federal government doesn't have the authority to do that (unless of course, they can find a way to claim it relates to Interstate commerce).

-Quite a few folks would be totally lost as the only tool they have and rely on for safety is a gun.

-Many folks recall a time when there were no "permission papers" and would do as they did then.
Others would be bugging the fire out of them to learn what was done back then.

-Others are familiar with restrictions that vary from :
_Civilians not being able to have any guns or calibers as the Police/Military do.
_Persons traveling in daily affairs are subject to checkpoints with armed Police/Military at checkpoints.
_Homes and business subject to search and seizure.


History is a great teacher and one is wise to pay attention, lest they make the same mistakes again.

Good question. What are there, 40 or so shall-issue states now?

I've recently seen how MN bars have dealt with the smoking ban. They pretend every night is "play night" or "re-enactment night" and let everyone smoke. It borders on scoffing.

I'm just guessing, but I think a smoking ban has a lot more popular support than a carry ban would. How many states (if any) would openly assert that such a law from the fed would be unenforced? How many individuals would openly scoff a law that banned carry?

I know a few.

We've been gaining ground in recent years, not losing it. Right now I think my town's dogcatcher has a better shot at the Oval Office than BHO.

So far all they're talking about is guns. Maybe we could just start "carrying" our swords or big bowie knives!

Then most of us would do like we did before CCW became wide spreed, carry anyway. Remember, a lot of laws are morally wrong.

What if it was illegal to be in the US illegally?

--wally.

^I guarantee if there was a guy carrying a concealed weapon with no harm intended (if illegal) and an illegal immigrant standing side by side, the guy with the gun would get more attention. And if the illegal attacked the cop, and the carrying gun owner saved the cops life, the gun owner still would do time.
Illegal immigration just isn't an issue for some reason these days. Go USA.

And yes... "What if" works on so many levels with that statement. haha

Well,

I carried for 25+ years without a CCW. I did it because I valued my life more than I valued that law.
I obey the law, well most laws. But, I will not allow that to preventing me from stopping someone from taking my life or the life of a loved one.
I hope that does not happen, I pray that does not happen. But if it does I will go back to the thought of being judged by 12 as opposed to be carried by 6.

Very interesting answers
weisse52 I dont ccw illegally because in florida its a 3rd degree felony if caught and I dont want to mess my entire life up just for that and never be able to hold a good job.However I respect your courage to stand up against a immoral law and do whats right for your situation to survive and protect yourself and family.

Now if it was just a small misdeameanor like in California which is ironic then I would do it once in a while but in the state I live in which is pro-gun florida I would be instantly put in jail and have all gun rights taken from me which is not worth it in the long run because I can legally get a ccw in 3 years when I turn 21.Now if they banned ccw outright then I would be more willing to be disobediant and do what is my natural right to carry and to protect myself.In the meantime all I can do is wait until I reach the age where I can carry and hope that I wont have to see Obama or some extreme gun hating president win and ban ccw and open carry outright through Democratic legistlation.

A gun in the car though is better then a gun at home thats my situation for the next three years.

We would be back in the 1930's

11th Commandment

The states would have to whip out the 2nd Amendment and show it to the feds I think.

The other answer to your question is "Criminals would keep doing it, and ex-law abiding citizens who realize this would become criminals due to a paradigm shift."

I think that the general consensus is that a few signatures on a piece of paper in Washington can't make me delete the value that I place on being alive, and on the fact that my friends and family are alive.

I'd have to do what I felt was best for me and my own.;)

Civil disobedience is still alive and well in America, I dearly hope. I further hope that would be the response to such a measure.

What if ccw and open carry was banned nationwide due to obama?
And the only places you can carry is on your private property,hunting,or have it in the car in a holster in a glove box or seat loaded or unloaded.

That is when the armed rebellion should begin.

Hope that scenario doesn't ever play out, but I have carried concealed legally for years, and both legally openly, and/or "otherwise" concealed for many years before that. Guess I'd have to become a "highly decorated, combat wounded veteran former law abiding citizen turned criminal by necessity" ....and trust to be fairly judged by 12,...instead of carried by six,.....

This is an easy one...Carry anyway. Just become a criminal. They seem to get away with everything they do. Too many walking the streets right now. Phila Pa is criminal friendly.

I carried for over 20 years before it was legal in Texas. Better judged by 12 than carried by 6. It's a class A misdemeaner. I'll take the risk.

In CA carrying of a loaded Concealed gun is a misdemenor, First offense...If the gun is registered to you and you are not defined as a "gang member". Yes there is a statutory definition of a "gang member, then you will most likely get you gun confiscated and fined.

Carying of a knife with a fixed blade is a Felony.

Go Figure?

What if ccw and open carry was banned nationwide due to obama?
No president of the United States would - or should - be able to have this kind of power. If he did somehow acquire this power, he would no longer be president, but a tyrannical dictator. It would then be time to fully exercise the Second Amendment.

That is when the armed rebellion should begin.


I'm in agreement.

Well, if that were to happen, how about a massive open carry march on D.C.?

Well, if that were to happen, how about a massive open carry march on D.C.?

I'm there!

It would then be time to fully exercise the Second Amendment.


Yes,this is one 'peasant' that would stay armed no matter what the cause or reason!Give me liberty or give me death...honestly now,do they think that millions of armed Americans are going to just 'rollover and give it up'?

This IS the USA...

Concealed is, as concealed does.;)

out of sight, out of mind....

Well, if that were to happen, how about a massive open carry march on D.C.?

Count me in as well.

It's weird, so many people are affraid to say stuff like this... We shouldn't be. It's kind of our duty to humanity...:eek:

I'd carry on as usual like I already do when I encounter those stupid "no gun" signs.

Carry and hope I dontget caught. The stupid signs dont stop me from carrying.

I'll wager many of us learned the art of concealment before CCW law gained so much momentum. I can't see where losing CCW would change much for us, in that regard, other than the legality of it.

If the government decides to make millions of gun owners into criminals by the stroke of a pen, there's a whole lot of folks likely to get real serious about their new job title.

I can't see where losing CCW would change much for us, in that regard, other than the legality of it.

Oh, I can. Consider the person that has a heart attack, stroke, diabetic seizure, gets into a car accident, etc. The firearm WILL be found and that person risks jail time, legal fees and the permanent loss of any future firearm ownership because of a potential felony conviction for illegally concealing a firearm. Same thing for carrying illegally and actually NEEDING to use it. Just carrying/having the gun on you at all will be ANOTHER felony to be added to the potential list if it's not deemed a "good shoot". Heck, if national CCW was banned, there might NEVER be a "good shoot" outside the home/in public since it wouldn't have happened if you weren't carrying in the first place. :rolleyes:

Just like if there were a ban on guns period, a LOT of people would get scared of being caught/tracked down and turn them in anyway. I'll wager the illegality of CCW would cause a LOT of people to stop doing it, as well...

I think that any nationwide federal ban would probably die in the courts. I can't see how a federal mandate could legally nullify existing state laws on concealed carry. I also can't see something like this being mandated without being legally challenged before the ink was dry on the paper it was written on.

I may be wrong though and I don't mind somebody proving it if I am. Maybe someone that knows the topic a little better than I do can weigh in on whether this would be legal or not.

Katana, the federal gov't doesn't have to pass laws trumping state laws. All they have to do is threaten to withhold federal funding and a lot of states would bend over and change their laws. Sort of like how the seatbelt law applies to EVERY state in the US because if the states didn't adopt this policy/law, they would lose federal highway/transportation funding. Doesn't have to be through laws...just control the purse strings. :rolleyes:

Oh, I can. Consider the person that has a heart attack, stroke, diabetic seizure, gets into a car accident, etc. The firearm WILL be found and that person risks jail time, legal fees and the permanent loss of any future firearm ownership because of a potential felony conviction for illegally concealing a firearm.

In Texas, you can now carry legally in a vehicle, just has to be "out of sight". In Texas, carrying without a permit is a misdemeanor, not a felony. As in California, don't get caught with a fixed blade knife over 4", though. :rolleyes:

Maybe that's the case for now, MCgunner, but laws can always change. The original post talked about a FEDERAL ban on CC, which could cause the states to revoke current CC laws due to pressure of withholding federal funding. I don't think the federal gov't can "make" the states change their laws, but they can make it painful enough that the states may change it on their own.

What if ccw and open carry was banned nationwide?

I'd do just like I did for years before concealed carry.

My Wife's and my welfare is a lot more import to me than what some slimy politician thinks.


Many years ago when I was a LEO I knew of people that carried illegally. I thought they would be foolish not to.
Heck, I even sold a Derringer to a Catholic Priest.:)

Well, if that were to happen, how about a massive open carry march on D.C.?
I'm there!

Romma- let's carpool.

Quote: Concealed is, as concealed does. ;)
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+ 5 - Personally, I refuse to answer on the grounds that it may incriminate myself.


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Good man, Lonestar49!

The Federal Government would have no legal grounds to ban concealed carry and open carry because that clearly violates our Second Amendment right to bear arms. That is not to say they might not try to do so, however! I doubt that such a law would hold up in court, but even if it did, there are some states like Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, and a few others that would probably just quietly ignore the law. After all, it's not like Federal officers interact with the general public that much. I have no doubt that many would continue to carry in any case, though, as the ability to protect ones self and ones loved ones clearly outweighs the desire to obey an unconstitutional law. I would think that armed insurrection would be much less likely as a result of a law prohibiting carry than it would be in the event of a law requiring firearms to be surrendered.

If it's time to bury 'em, it's time to use 'em.

the bad guy's would have a field day with anyone they feel they would like to.It would cause quite possibly a civil war.

Before considering this a ruling from the Supreme Court on Heller will have to be given. Also if the makeup of Congress and the Senate were to go much more liberal it wouldn't matter who the president is.