AR-15 or M1A


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catfish wilson
March 18, 2008, 10:28 PM
If you had a choice between a standard AR or a standard M1A what would be your choice ?

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SlamFire1
March 18, 2008, 10:33 PM
M1a. But then, I am biased. I like the M1a more than the AR.

DaveInFloweryBranchGA
March 18, 2008, 10:35 PM
They're totally different rifles with totally different missions. I would pick the M1A over the AR, but think everyone should have both.

Dave

ashtxsniper
March 18, 2008, 10:36 PM
M1A over the AR any day.

eldon519
March 18, 2008, 10:50 PM
My M1A is probably my favorite rifle. That said, in the future you may get more use out of a AR-15. Ammunition prices are becoming a real consideration for weapon selection. Even reloading isn't the deal it used to be.

Bazooka Joe71
March 18, 2008, 10:53 PM
Well considering an M1A is substantially more than an AR 15, I'd rather have an M1A if I had to pick one.

Unfortunately, the price of .223 is catching up with .308, so there isn't too much of an argument for ammo prices anymore.:(

Mojo-jo-jo
March 18, 2008, 10:55 PM
M1A. The Rifleman's Rifle.

Buzzbox
March 18, 2008, 11:00 PM
M1A. If you run out of ammo, it's a much better club. :D

Onmilo
March 18, 2008, 11:06 PM
If price was a concern, go with the AR15.
These rifles are less costly to maintain and feed.

I do have a choice and I own both M1A and AR15 rifles.

10-Ring
March 18, 2008, 11:16 PM
I couldn't decide, so I have both :( still recovering, but I'm glad I have them :evil:

M1 Shooter
March 18, 2008, 11:18 PM
M1A, I'm just not much of an AR fan.
I've owned two AR's and , although they were ok rifles, I just couldn't warm up to them, so they got sold.

cat_IT_guy
March 18, 2008, 11:20 PM
i have to go with the M1A as well. Im going to try to scrounge the cash to buy one before election time.

H2O MAN
March 18, 2008, 11:22 PM
Go with the M14 platform 1st and pick up an AR when you get the chance or get the AR 1st followed by an M14... get both :)

Bazooka Joe71
March 18, 2008, 11:26 PM
LOL, H2O your response killed me..."Get one of the two first and the other one second."

Really? Is that how you acquire both? :p

I'm not quite sure why anyone asks the "which one of the two" question to a bunch of addicts...The answer is always "both.":D

wayne in boca
March 19, 2008, 07:43 AM
I resent being called an addict.The answer is NOT both.Any reasonable person would realize that you should have two of each,at least.Think of the children.Addicts.How insulting.

stubbicatt
March 19, 2008, 07:45 AM
I guess it depends on what you have in mind to use these tools for? If you just go plinking at the range, or shooting at paper targets, either will do... which one fits you best and which one do you like the feel of better?

If it is prairie dog shooting, well the AR would be the most likely choice.

Black bear hunting would point one towards the M1A.

benEzra
March 19, 2008, 08:08 AM
What do you consider a "standard AR"?

If you are talking a $1200 AR vs. a $1200 M1A, I'd personally take the AR. More features for the money, IMO, and if you don't like 5.56mm, a 6.8mm AR will do most anything the M1A will.

madcratebuilder
March 19, 2008, 08:38 AM
AR's are cheaper to buy and feed. I feel two of each is required.

H2O MAN
March 19, 2008, 09:01 AM
madcratebuilder AR's are cheaper to buy and feed.

I don't know about that... I sold off my last AR about 8 years ago and focused on the M14 platform.
Yes the M14 can be expensive, but is sure is rewarding :cool:

These two are my most cost effective M14 builds.

http://www.athenswater.com/images/LITE-SDM.jpg



Just last month I decided I needed a COLT LE 6920 and found out ARs can be just as expensive a good M14 type rifle.
Ammo for the AR does not seem to be any cheaper that 7.62 NATO or .308 and ARs have more expensive toys and gadgets available.

I have about $1800 wrapped up in this AR and I'm still shopping for quality ammo...

http://www.athenswater.com/images/LE6920-COLT.jpg

Yes, get both, but don't assume the AR will be that much cheaper.



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High Planes Drifter
March 19, 2008, 09:06 AM
AR's are typically cheaper to buy, especially if you build one as a kit. They are also cheaper to feed, easier to find accesories for, and mags are far cheaper. Also, IMO at least, its easier to shoot for long durations (range visits) with an AR, as its easier on the shoulder.

Of course all of this is opinionated.

HorseSoldier
March 19, 2008, 10:59 AM
If you had a choice between a standard AR or a standard M1A what would be your choice ?

What am I choosing? A gun for plinking on the range? A home defense rifle/carbine? My only long gun for the end of the world? A long gun for serious combat marksmanship training? A rifle for serious long-range shooting?

Depending on what the need is would go a long ways towards sorting out which weapon was the right fit for the mission.

glockman19
March 19, 2008, 11:31 AM
I have both but prefer the M1A

madcratebuilder
March 20, 2008, 07:49 AM
Yes, get both, but don't assume the AR will be that much cheaper.
I'm in my AR's half of what the M1A's cost to build. An un-scoped M1A, doing all your own work well tie up 2K real quick, assuming you do a NM build. You can build a very nice AR for 1K.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/m1a-1.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/ar15.jpg

Essex County
March 20, 2008, 03:18 PM
AR.......Essex

Andrewsky
March 20, 2008, 04:57 PM
madcratebuilder, what's up with your M1A's sling?

I have mine set-up so I can slide my left arm through the loop next to the rear sling swivel...Is that how ya do it?:uhoh:

I'm not sure how all these slings work.:o

TexasRifleman
March 20, 2008, 05:01 PM
I'm not sure how all these slings work.

Someone pointed me to this link a while back....

http://landry-family.com/rifleman/sling.html

To the topic, get both :)

DnPRK
March 20, 2008, 10:28 PM
As much as I love M-1As (got 3 of 'em), the AR-15 is more inherently accurate due to it's construction and is easier to shoot well.

natescout
March 20, 2008, 10:46 PM
i have both, the ar is alot cheaper to shoot and easy to trick out

def4pos8
March 20, 2008, 11:01 PM
I prefer any variation of the M-1A over the AR-15. They thump better.;)

madcratebuilder
March 21, 2008, 09:20 AM
Good eye Andrewsky, it's on there upside down. I need a longer sling than I have to wrap around my elbow/wrist.
TexasRifleman, good link on the sling, thanks.

Powder_Burn
March 21, 2008, 10:12 AM
Pick your poison....I bought both and will grab the M1A if I ever had to for self-defense. IMHO...

M1A Advantages:
*Simple an tough - very reliable even when dirty
*reasonable accuracy for a battle rifle (~2-3 MOA for rack grade rifles)
*.308 has between 2x and 2.5x more energy than .223 depending on range
*excellent iron sights
*better long range capability

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i99/Powder_Burn/308_v_223.jpg

AR Advantages:
*cheaper ammo
*aftermarket options galore are available - better platform for optics.
*field versions are very accurate
*pistol grip (the pistol grip stocks for the M1A are too large and heavy for my taste)
*Tier 1 AR's (Colt, LMT, Noveske) are slightly cheaper than M1A's. There are other AR clones that are much less expensive to buy initially, but I would not put these in the same class if were talking about needing hard use military rifles.
*lighter and more handy - nice balance too.
*you can carry much more ammo w/o getting weighed down

The bottom line is that the M1A is a true main battle rifle whereas the AR is more of an assault rifle. You'll have to see which fits your needs best or just buy both since it's inevitable anyway! :evil:

Ballistic Jello
March 22, 2008, 03:51 AM
^^^ what about an AR-10? Looks like they can be had for $900-1,400 on Gunbroker.


I would love to have one, but they are about $900-1,400 out of my price range at the moment.

crazed_ss
March 22, 2008, 04:42 AM
I'd choose an AR, but since Im in Cali, I got a M1A.

H2O MAN
March 22, 2008, 08:08 AM
I had a real nice AR-10A4 SPR, but sold it off to fund another M14 build.

I prefer the M14 when shooting 7.62 NATO and the AR when shooting 5.56 NATO.

Ford
March 22, 2008, 11:18 AM
For me it depends what you want it for.
If I want something to double as a home defense rifle and a deer hunting rifle I would get the M1A.
If I want a home defense rifle and I just plan on shooting it at the range or out on the farm for fun I would pick the AR.

waffentomas
March 22, 2008, 03:48 PM
I despise the whole Stoner concept, call it a close call underfire over 20 years ago. Get the M1A.

sacp81170a
March 22, 2008, 04:18 PM
What does it mean when you have an M1A, three AR15's and an AR10?

Andrewsky
March 22, 2008, 05:32 PM
What does it mean when you have an M1A, three AR15's and an AR10?

You're divorced?:evil:

H2O MAN
March 22, 2008, 05:40 PM
Quote:
What does it mean when you have an M1A, three AR15's and an AR10?
Andrewsky You're divorced? :evil:

:evil: That's funny stuff !

sacp81170a
March 22, 2008, 06:47 PM
You're divorced?

Nope, my wife claims one of "my" AR's, and has her own .22, .22 mag, Marlin 1894 Guide Gun in .44 mag, a 642, a Taurus .44 Special, and a Ruger Blackhawk in .45acp/.45LC. Good woman. And she's Sicilian and she can cook, so eat your hearts out!

Oh yeah, and a Kahr 9mm. Plus she's from Wyoming and we're planning on moving back to the Cheyenne area in a few years... :p

NDOC C/O
March 22, 2008, 06:51 PM
M1A hands down although, I think the AR is a great weapon in the right configuration

mavracer
March 22, 2008, 06:57 PM
I'm not quite sure why anyone asks the "which one of the two" question to a bunch of addicts...The answer is always "both." I am not an addict the corect answer is both.




OK so I'm in denial

amprecon
March 23, 2008, 12:00 AM
I personally have no use for the .223 caliber. I personally don't like direct gas impingement. I have never had a need to even consider the AR-15, M1A all the way for me.

madcratebuilder
March 23, 2008, 07:50 AM
I shoot both, roll my own with clean burning powder. I find the M1A gas cylinder takes the same amount of cleaning as the AR bolt.

SnakeEater
March 23, 2008, 10:20 AM
No contest, Noveske AR-10. No contest. It's in a whole different category than a pot metal M1A.

H2O MAN
March 23, 2008, 11:04 AM
SnakeEater No contest, Noveske AR-10. No contest.

Thanks, but no thanks ~

TexasRifleman
March 23, 2008, 11:05 AM
No contest, Noveske AR-10. No contest. It's in a whole different category than a pot metal M1A.

LOL thanks, I needed the morning humor.

Greenspartan117
March 23, 2008, 11:54 AM
I would get the AR first, because I can clear a house with it, while the M1a would be great, a .308 would punch through too many walls an prove to ba a liability.

catfish wilson
March 24, 2008, 11:10 PM
Thanks, I guess I will work on getting both... minus the divorce

possum
March 24, 2008, 11:21 PM
for me it all depends on mett-tc
depends on who, what where and when and how i am gonna be using it. i am most comfortable with the ar platform as i know it better than th em1a but i can use the m1a just fine, and would have no qualms about using one in a defensive/combat situation

Dienekes
March 24, 2008, 11:28 PM
The only thing cooler than an M4gery with an ACOG :D is an M1A with an ACOG.:neener:

Bazooka Joe71
March 25, 2008, 02:05 PM
You're divorced?

LOL, now that was funny.



Get ya an AR first, since you can get a decent one for darn near half as much, then get an M1A...Then an ACOG for your AR15...Then, well never mind, you get my point.:p

Grunt
March 25, 2008, 09:47 PM
Hmm, to date we have 4 M-14s and 5 ARs with 2 more ARs awaiting parts for a final build. I like both of them and each has it's strengths and weaknesses. For things that go bump in the night, I prefer the M-4geries, the wife has one, I have one and when my boy is old enough to handle it, he's got one as well. However, for range with power that will still do damage at longer ranges as well as rugedness and reliability, I prefer the M-14.

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